Topic: Djokovic

[BarryCrocker]

He’s a massive c*nt.

Reckon he might get thrown out now considering everything he has done.

Good of him to throw his Agent under the bus too.

Didn't really throw him under the bus. Nothing will happen to him, he can't sanctioned or fined it's just a scapegoat who get's him free of another failure. He'll still be reprinting him going forward.  He may even get a bonus.

[gazzalfc]

Aussie immigration is one of the strictest in the world for anyone travelling there. He should be treated like anyone else who fails to tick a box or fill in his immigration forms incorrectly and be kicked out of the country.

Part of me would actually like him to stay just to see the levels of abuse he gets from that crowd

[Red Cactii]

Part of me would actually like him to stay just to see the levels of abuse he gets from that crowd

AO is definitely the most ruthless crowd of the four grand slams, he’s going to cop it which is unheard of for someone who has been so successful at Melbourne Park.

[Kashinoda]

Perhaps not the best bloke in the world and I don't give a toss about tennis but I'd grab the popcorn should he win his tenth just for the meltdowns.

It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that I find Australia to be appalling in the way they've dealt with things so if he triggers some Australian politicians I can't say I'm too bothered.

Nothing you say is remotely surprising, you seem to know your role well enough by now.

[Wild Romany Boy]

Nothing you say is remotely surprising, you seem to know your role well enough by now.

TBF, if this has done one good thing, it is that it has highlighted some of the practices that go on at the border.

I don't want Djokovic anywhere near winning number 10 btw. I remember every time Federer took the slam record, it felt special. This won't.

[RedForeverTT]

Border Security : Are these your bags?
Traveller : Yes
Border Security : Did you pack these bags?
Traveller : No, my mum did.
Border Security : Did you sign this travel declaration?
Traveller : Yes
Border Security : Boom

Now instead of getting deported and take the high road, he could have a jail term hanging over his head. The government will now want to screw him over instead of giving him the easy way out since he has already rejected it once.

If I were him I will pack my bags quietly and fly out midnight.

[Thepooloflife]

What's the difference between a dickhead and a bellend?

Yeah, but he's obviously a bellend. 

For clarity, maybe we should try dickend and bellhead ?

[Persephone]

Nothing you say is remotely surprising, you seem to know your role well enough by now.

He does seem to wind people up in every discussion.

[Keith Lard]

He’s an elite sports person playing an individual sport, and able to get tested multiple times a day.

Storm in a tea cup. Media always needs some stupid controversy.

I say this as someone that’s never been a Djokovic fan. He comes across as a smug git imo. But then I think men’s tennis is generally devoid of characters. Likes of federer and nadal are dull as dishwater. That aside I still think the smug got should be allowed to compete and the public should find something else to get their knickers in a twist over. People dying in the world and the public obsessed about bullshit like one tennis player, Kanye and Kim, etc.

[Kenny's Jacket]

He’s an elite sports person playing an individual sport, and able to get tested multiple times a day.

Storm in a tea cup. Media always needs some stupid controversy.

Surely the bigger picture is one rule for the rich, one for the rest

[Keith Lard]

Surely the bigger picture is one rule for the rich, one for the rest

Just edited my earlier post. I get it and really couldn’t be bothered either way. But I do think he’s being scapegoated and this is being blown out of proportion. Would prefer he’s vaccinated, but then I’m not an elite sportsperson and there should be a reasonable degree of personal liberty.

[Barneylfc∗]

Not to de-rail the thread but I've been "a little break" since I suggested I might need one from the site after Karius's performance in the 2018 Champions League final and have never been able to get my old username back. At this point I'm probably settle on my mod enforced username.

Not sure I wanna jump in the ring on the Djokovic stuff. But I would like to know more about his potential PED situation?

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=325769.960

The clue is in the thread title

[Ray K]

Just edited my earlier post. I get it and really couldn’t be bothered either way. But I do think he’s being scapegoated and this is being blown out of proportion. Would prefer he’s vaccinated, but then I’m not an elite sportsperson and there should be a reasonable degree of personal liberty.

There is. He's perfectly entitled to assert his personal liberty and not turn up to tournaments where the host nation has a mandatory vaccination requirement.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Just edited my earlier post. I get it and really couldn’t be bothered either way. But I do think he’s being scapegoated and this is being blown out of proportion. Would prefer he’s vaccinated, but then I’m not an elite sportsperson and there should be a reasonable degree of personal liberty.

I agree on the personal liberty, I also are not eligible for a vaccine passport, but I expect to have to follow the rules.

Anyone else with a cancelled visa in Australia gets deported asap.  thats the issue and its good the media point out this stuff out.

[Persephone]

He’s an elite sports person playing an individual sport, and able to get tested multiple times a day.

snip

People dying in the world and the public obsessed about bullshit like one tennis player, Kanye and Kim, etc.

Why should be need to be tested multiple times a day? There is a shortage of tests around the world and you think because he's an elite sportsman he is entitled to more than required, because he's selfish enough to not get vaccinated?

The fact that people are still dying from this virus is partly down to anti vaxxers and tinfoil hat wearing idiots like Djokovic. They use their platforms to spread misinformation and it trickles down to their rabid followers. He's the Prince of the anti-vax movement right now and this case matters hugely to the world going forward. This is not some fake celebrity nonsense this affects real lives and is effects will be felt.

Listen to the Australian public who are furious that after all their sacrifices and rule abiding, an "elite sportsman" shits all over their laws with the help of a sporting body.

[El Lobo]

Yeah, imagine losing your shit and melting down after being 'triggered' by a sport/sportsman.

How did you get your name change here by the way?

 

[Keith Lard]

Why should be need to be tested multiple times a day? There is a shortage of tests around the world and you think because he's an elite sportsman he is entitled to more than required, because he's selfish enough to not get vaccinated?

The fact that people are still dying from this virus is partly down to anti vaxxers and tinfoil hat wearing idiots like Djokovic. They use their platforms to spread misinformation and it trickles down to their rabid followers. He's the Prince of the anti-vax movement right now and this case matters hugely to the world going forward. This is not some fake celebrity nonsense this affects real lives and is effects will be felt.

Listen to the Australian public who are furious that after all their sacrifices and rule abiding, an "elite sportsman" shits all over their laws with the help of a sporting body.

Yeh I get it, but I still think people are obsessing over it and taking a nauseating moral high ground. It’s not for me.

Same people are eating tortured animals, wearing sweat shop clothes, etc. There comes a point where people on social media look at things so microscopically and that they lose a bit of perspective.

Let the bugger play and let’s watch him get booed - will probably have a bigger impact than making an anti-vax martyr out of him + it will be entertaining + rest assure the world is full of fucking ass holes flouting the rules (go to local shopping centre, at least 50% don’t bother with masks and walk up close to you). One more isn’t going to make a difference, particularly a privileged one that will get tested 75 times a day.

[The G in Gerrard]

Bizzare take on the situation.

[rushyman]

Personally I think he's a bellend and Australia should be allowed to deport the twat.

No idea where the judge is coming from on this.

This

Blokes a shithouse and all his idiotic dancing supporters

[Persephone]

Yeh I get it, but I still think people are obsessing over it and taking a nauseating moral high ground. It’s not for me.

Same people are eating tortured animals, wearing sweat shop clothes, etc. There comes a point where people on social media look at things so microscopically and that they lose a bit of perspective.

Let the bugger play and let’s watch him get booed - will probably have a bigger impact than making an anti-vax martyr out of him + it will be entertaining + rest assure the world is full of fucking ass holes flouting the rules (go to local shopping centre, at least 50% don’t bother with masks and walk up close to you). One more isn’t going to make a difference, particularly a privileged one that will get tested 75 times a day.

You pretty much ignored everything I said. And what aboutism is not really conducive to a discussion. That's your opinion and that's cool, we'll agree to disagree.

The word around a few Aussie reporters is Djokovic will probably be deported tomorrow. I hope this is true, and we can get back to talking about a Grand Slam.

[Nick110581]

Yeh I get it, but I still think people are obsessing over it and taking a nauseating moral high ground. It’s not for me.

Same people are eating tortured animals, wearing sweat shop clothes, etc. There comes a point where people on social media look at things so microscopically and that they lose a bit of perspective.

Let the bugger play and let’s watch him get booed - will probably have a bigger impact than making an anti-vax martyr out of him + it will be entertaining + rest assure the world is full of fucking ass holes flouting the rules (go to local shopping centre, at least 50% don’t bother with masks and walk up close to you). One more isn’t going to make a difference, particularly a privileged one that will get tested 75 times a day.

Fuck me.

[jizzspunk]

AO is definitely the most ruthless crowd of the four grand slams, he’s going to cop it which is unheard of for someone who has been so successful at Melbourne Park.

Not really...rub the Paris crowd up the wrong way and it would eclipse any AO abuse

[G Richards]

Djokovic is bad, but not as bad as Hitler. Let the boy play!

Ok, silliness aside, I hope he is booted from the country, and the delay has simply been because they are getting their ducks in a row behind the scenes in anticipation of legal challenge.

Leaves a bad taste. We are waiting to see if Australia is in charge of its borders and applying its covid rules to everyone, regardless of fame and fortune.

[Keith Lard]

The guy doesn't want to put a vaccine in his body - not a crime.

He wants to play tennis - not a crime.

He's uniquely placed to not infect others because of the regularity at which he gets tested, tennis being an individual sport, and the amount of scrutiny he will be under.

I get that it may set a dangerous precedent, but this simplistic "one rule for the elite, one rule for the rest" is also a bit lame. Listen I've got every reason to agree with you guys because I've been through terrible bereavement last year due to Covid, although I also lost my Father from cardiac arrest 7 days after he took the vaccine. I still went ahead and made sure my whole family got vaccinated. So I'm not an anti vaxxer - I just believe fundamental personal liberties must be protected, even if it throws up difficult problems such as this.

Seriously - the uproar is OTT and he's being made into a pantomime villain by the public. Different rules SHOULD apply to an elite sportsperson like him - it's just a fact. He has a right not to have a vaccine forced into him in order to play tennis. People are losing a sense of individual liberty.

I believe in taking the vaccine, but I will defend the right of others not to take it unless absolutely necessary (like if you're a Doctor in a hospital). You can't judge an elite tennis player in the same way.

I wish people would just try to see the other side and not get so defensive if the opinion held on here sits in the minority, as mine clearly seems to.

[Crosby Nick]

“He’s uniquely placed not to affect others”

Gets Covid, meets a journalist the next day.

[Elmo!]

“He’s uniquely placed not to affect others”

Gets Covid, meets a journalist the next day.

 

[BarryCrocker]

The guy doesn't want to put a vaccine in his body - not a crime.

He wants to play tennis - not a crime.

He's uniquely placed to not infect others because of the regularity at which he gets tested, tennis being an individual sport, and the amount of scrutiny he will be under.

He's uniquely placed NOT to be treated the same way as the citizens of a country so he can earn himself $4m.

Fck that shit off.

[Keith Lard]

One thing - I didn't know that Djokovic had broken isolation after testing positive. Just saw that on the Beeb.

Now that sheds a different light on things for sure. He should only be allowed to compete if he observes the specific guidelines.

Yeh - he's got to pay a price for that.

[Perkinsonian]

I just believe fundamental personal liberties must be protected, even if it throws up difficult problems such as this.

With exception of refugees does entry into the territory of a foreign country belong to the catalog of basic human rights or fundamental personal liberties?

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

“He’s uniquely placed not to affect others”

Gets Covid, meets a journalist the next day.

"He's uniquely placed not to affect others"

Organises a tennis even at the height of the pandemic, infects several people.

[Andy82lfc]

Not really...rub the Paris crowd up the wrong way and it would eclipse any AO abuse

Just from TV I would agree with this, Paris crowd can be harsh and seems worse. Being lucky enough to have lived in Paris and go to Roland Garros in the flesh, you really don't want to be on the wrong side of the locals, gets brutal and way out of hand at times.

No idea how the Aussies will react but reckon it will be a wall of boos for the first game or so fading off into laughter and pantomime jeers. Reckon in Paris they'd be chucking stuff on the court given the same scenario. Hopefully we won't get to find out though.

[rushyman]

One thing - I didn't know that Djokovic had broken isolation after testing positive. Just saw that on the Beeb.

Now that sheds a different light on things for sure. He should only be allowed to compete if he observes the specific guidelines.

Yeh - he's got to pay a price for that.

Fair one

[Andy @ Allerton!]

He is probably the best player to ever play the game.

He is also dangerous, reactionary, and wrong and he should not be at this tournament. His one real weakness is that he doesn't feel like he gets the love he deserves, so a hostile crowd can get to him, with the right opponent, and if everything aligns right. The slight dip in preparation won't help either.

But he shouldn't be there. He has done a catalogue of things that others would have been deported for. He's a thunder c%%.

Better than Borg or McEnroe?

behave.

[Morgana]

Meh. Don't care.

[BarryCrocker]

As per John Oliver - And then there is this...

Report: Novak under fresh investigation

Fresh reports emerged on Thursday claiming Spanish authorities are investigating Djokovic over his arrival into the country.

The tennis star said his agent incorrectly ticked “no” on a form asking if he had travelled in the 14 days before leaving for Australia, when in fact he had gone from Serbia to Spain in that time, where he practised ahead of the year’s first grand slam.

Spanish publication COPE reports agencies are looking into whether he entered the country illegally.

Tennis journalist Ben Rothenberg revealed Spains’s policy stipulates “unvaccinated tourists” are not allowed to enter the country and he’d need to prove his work was “essential” to get in.

Fellow tennis reporter Gaspar Ribeiro Lanca tweeted: “Breaking news: COPE reports that the Spanish Government is now investigating whether unvaccinated Novak Djokovic entered the country illegally in late December.

“Since September 20, citizens from Serbia need a vaccine certificate OR a special exemption to enter Spanish territory but so far the authorities say they did not receive any request from Djokovic.”

[ChaChaMooMoo]

Wow. He is digging the hole deeper now..

[Machae]

The lengths these dickheads go to be unvaccinated. Then expect everyone to conform around their needs and wants

[Andy82lfc]

On 50% crowds just announced, so won’t be half the fallout even if he stays. Bit shit.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

He’s an elite sports person playing an individual sport, and able to get tested multiple times a day.

Storm in a tea cup. Media always needs some stupid controversy.

I say this as someone that’s never been a Djokovic fan. He comes across as a smug git imo. But then I think men’s tennis is generally devoid of characters. Likes of federer and nadal are dull as dishwater. That aside I still think the smug got should be allowed to compete and the public should find something else to get their knickers in a twist over. People dying in the world and the public obsessed about bullshit like one tennis player, Kanye and Kim, etc.

People dying in the world.

Do you think that people dying in the world are helped by dickwads lying, breaking rules and acting like a Boris?

What if everyone else did the same?

How would that affect people dying.

Some entitled gobshite that can swing a bit of plastic at another bit of plastic doesn't deserve any special favours.

[ChaChaMooMoo]

He’s an elite sports person playing an individual sport, and able to get tested multiple times a day.

I think people are pissed because..

1. He got the infection and spent time with kids and/or doing an interview immediately (Was it responsible behaviour from someone who knew his actions are scrutinised on an international stage?)
2. He lied about his travels on an international visa application (Tell me what would happen to Mr and Mrs John Doe if they had lied on their application)
3. He purposefully floundered the entry regulation to a foreign land (Same question about Mr and Mrs John Doe)
4. Not to mention, he allegedly lied about his test results (We dont know what really happened here)
5. Also, as a followup to 1 and 2, his travel to Spain is in scrutiny

Please correct me if I have misled something.