Topic: General Manchester City thread

[afc tukrish]

In that case he should sign Like Shaw.

 

[Gaz123456]

They don't know how to lose with grace any more.

Never had a problem with City fans before the Pep era to be honest even when they were winning titles and cups, but they seem to have taken on his 'spoilt brat, the world is against us' persona.

[Red Beret]

basically ‘we are screwed because we did dumb shit like spend £50m on an Instagram celeb at left back’

Crying because they can't just outspend everybody and pay the best players in the world a million a week.  As usual just want to throw money at the problem as a quick fix rather than approach it from a constructive tactical perspective.

I really think our result at Villa broke something in their psyche this season.  They were on the verge of getting within three points of us, with the chance to top the table on GD with a win at Anfield.  Now they're 14 fecking points behind us.  That's an insane collapse.

[idontknow]

I understand why you say this, but to be honest I'll be supporting Leicester.

Me too. Confident we will beat Leicester ourselves, but would like to see Rodgers beat City. Don't mind the teeth either, really, anymore. 

[elsewhere]

Me too. Confident we will beat Leicester ourselves, but would like to see Rodgers beat City. Don't mind the teeth either, really, anymore. 

a draw would be the best imo.

[Jshooters]

How come Pep doesn't play Phil "the most talented player I have ever seen" Foden more?

Silva's legs just don't suit games like this.

Maybe Foden is to Cardiola what Phil ‘the next Duncan Edwards’ was to Ferguson

[vblfc]

In that case he should sign Like Shaw.

  Shaw warming up last night.  Looked like a mascot in a padded suit

[Floydy]

Personally , some of the praise Guardiloa gave Foden early last year in particular I found over the top and underserving.  Correct me if I'm wrong but he is the only local lad/academy graduate they have in the squad and Pep plays on that, he leads him and the fans along, sure he is a decent player and will improve but its a convienient reference point for Pep to plug as if he is not just spunking squillions on foreign players.

[idontknow]

a draw would be the best imo.

This most likely would be the best result for us. Watching City crumble is undoubtedly good fun though. 

[Yosser0_0]

Personally , some of the praise Guardiloa gave Foden early last year in particular I found over the top and underserving.  Correct me if I'm wrong but he is the only local lad/academy graduate they have in the squad and Pep plays on that, he leads him and the fans along, sure he is a decent player and will improve but its a convienient reference point for Pep to plug as if he is not just spunking squillions on foreign players.

When I hear his name I always think of one of these below, reminds me of the annual traction engine rally they have at Llandudno.
 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Alright mate, carry on slagging off the black fella.

Such a sad reply.

[RAWK Meltdown #1]

[ABZ Rover]

When I hear his name I always think of one of these below, reminds me of the annual traction engine rally they have at Llandudno.
 

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So like a more modern version of a cart horse?  Yep, seems about right from why I’ve seen of him.

[Son of Spion]

They do love lobbing stuff, had things thrown at us there before in the away end, think Ferdinand got his face split open by a coin there a while back too didn't he?

Still, not as bad as some c*nt throwing a beer can at a window.

A Liverpool fan lost an eye after being hit by a coin thrown by an Abu Dhabi 'fan' at the Emptyhad a few seasons ago. Throwing things were all City were good at before Abu Dhabi bought their name. Anyone who ever stood on the away side of the Kippax fence will testify to that.

[newterp]

A Liverpool fan lost an eye after being hit by a coin thrown by an Abu Dhabi 'fan' at the Emptyhad a few seasons ago. Throwing things were all City were good at before Abu Dhabi bought their name. Anyone who ever stood on the away side of the Kippax fence will testify to that.

But you guys don't seem to understand. Throwing coins, water bottles, or lighters at players with no protection is not a big deal. It's just part of the banter.

What IS the biggest deal is when a couple of, admitted, idiots throw some bottles at a bus. The Man City players who were housed and enclosed in this enormous metal contraption could have been killed maimed for life badly injured upset! 

After all, Kevin De Brunye almost quit football because of it:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/it-happens-de-bruyne-not-bothered-hostile-anfield-welcome

.........

[Son of Spion]

^
Abu Dhabi could explode a tactical nuclear device at Anfield and their 'fans' would still insist the bus 'attack' was worse.

[FiSh77]

A Liverpool fan lost an eye after being hit by a coin thrown by an Abu Dhabi 'fan' at the Emptyhad a few seasons ago. Throwing things were all City were good at before Abu Dhabi bought their name. Anyone who ever stood on the away side of the Kippax fence will testify to that.

Mate of mine got hit by a golf ball there, got hit by a meat pie once as well, the pie was rock hard and did more damage than the golf ball, come to think of it the pie incident may have been on the kop, things are a bit hazy but the golf ball deffo happened at maine road

[vivabobbygraham]

Mate of mine got hit by a golf ball there, got hit by a meat pie once as well, the pie was rock hard and did more damage than the golf ball, come to think of it the pie incident may have been on the kop, things are a bit hazy but the golf ball deffo happened at maine road

And I bet the c*nts never shouted 'Fore' neither

[Morgana]

The whole racism thing at the City game is lamentable but not unexpected. It's endemic of not just racist views among a small but vocal minority of fans, but also of a general strain of petulance and spoilt brattish-ness among the City fanbase. For the first time in 3 years they are not blowing everyone away on the pitch, picking up all the domestic trophies. They don't look solid enough at the back or prolific enough up front to get their hands on that highly coveted Champions League cup. And if results don't improve in the league (especially if things keep going well for United), they could be battling for 4th place with Chelsea and Man U in about 12 weeks time.

The ones outing themselves as "racists" are exhibiting the typical behaviour of the childhood bully who suddenly feels insecure and finds it hard not being top dog anymore. Overt and violent racism is nothing more than  a lazy, puerile way for people to voice their displeasure with their own personal circumstances and society in general. The immigrant, the outsider or the person who is obviously of a different race is an easy scapegoat, an easy target on which to project their own sense of inadequacy. 

[macmanamanaman]

The whole racism thing at the City game is lamentable but not unexpected. It's endemic of not just racist views among a small but vocal minority of fans, but also of a general strain of petulance and spoilt brattish-ness among the City fanbase. For the first time in 3 years they are not blowing everyone away on the pitch, picking up all the domestic trophies. They don't look solid enough at the back or prolific enough up front to get their hands on that highly coveted Champions League cup. And if results don't improve in the league (especially if things keep going well for United), they could be battling for 4th place with Chelsea and Man U in about 12 weeks time.

The ones outing themselves as "racists" are exhibiting the typical behaviour of the childhood bully who suddenly feels insecure and finds it hard not being top dog anymore. Overt and violent racism is nothing more than  a lazy, puerile way for people to voice their displeasure with their own personal circumstances and society in general. The immigrant, the outsider or the person who is obviously of a different race is an easy scapegoat, an easy target on which to project their own sense of inadequacy. 

Exactly!

Keyword "spoilt".
They are suddenly in a situatiuon where everything is not rolling their way.

[royhendo]

I love this repetitive 606 caller “Gary” - he’s a tin foil sporting zoomer of the highest order.

[Jon2lfc]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50707809

Pep's clearly been smoking too much of the wacky baccy...... he's gone and put us, Barca, Juve AND Man U in the same bracket!

He's also said that they are struggling to compete with the big teams (!).

Reverse psychology? Mind games on another level?

I'm not a fan of City (obviously), but they are arguably in the top 5 teams in world footy right now.

That defeat to Utd has certainly dislodged a few of his brain cells.

[idontknow]

Exactly!

Keyword "spoilt".
They are suddenly in a situatiuon where everything is not rolling their way.

Joe Corrigan getting a bottle thrown from the Kop at him back in the 80s was mentioned a couple of pages back.
A lot of you will remember it. The Kop immediately identified him and ejected him.

We could have acted spoilt.
Champions of Europe, but finished 5th the previous season, written off at the start of the season because 3 points for a win, which was new, would put paid to our 'defensive' football.
The game the bottle was thrown in was, ironically, at home to Man City. It was late December, maybe Boxing Day, not sure, and we lost, 1-3. We were 13th. Anfield was no longer a fortress. If any group of fans had been 'spoilt', it was ours. But almost 40 years ago, in a city suffering severe abuse from an inhumane Tory government, the supporters threw the bottle-thrower out themselves.
Without looking, I bet the attendance was 35-6,000, I'd be surprised if it was more, because a couple of quid for a ticket was too much for a lot of people.

Nothing was rolling our way, and we had trophy after trophy for years.

I don't really know what I'm trying to say.
Has society really changed so much, or is it that Liverpool really is different, and knows that you get your highs from fighting through the lows, and that, whatever happens, we have something socialist on our hearts, all pulling together, looking out for one another, not putting up with anything that will hurt or betray the reputation of our club and city.

I should have put a question mark.

My conclusion is that we are different from other clubs, and their supporters. That's what I love most about this club.


(Apologies if that doesn't make much sense).

[Flaccido Dongingo]

A Liverpool fan lost an eye after being hit by a coin thrown by an Abu Dhabi 'fan' at the Emptyhad a few seasons ago. Throwing things were all City were good at before Abu Dhabi bought their name. Anyone who ever stood on the away side of the Kippax fence will testify to that.

Maine Road was a shithole

[Flaccido Dongingo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50707809

Pep's clearly been smoking too much of the wacky baccy...... he's gone and put us, Barca, Juve AND Man U in the same bracket!

He's also said that they are struggling to compete with the big teams (!).

Reverse psychology? Mind games on another level?

I'm not a fan of City (obviously), but they are arguably in the top 5 teams in world footy right now.

That defeat to Utd has certainly dislodged a few of his brain cells.

This is all new to Pip, he's used to having more money than anyone and virtually no competition, how dare anyone challenge his team!

[ScouserAtHeart]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50707809

Pep's clearly been smoking too much of the wacky baccy...... he's gone and put us, Barca, Juve AND Man U in the same bracket!

He's also said that they are struggling to compete with the big teams (!).

Reverse psychology? Mind games on another level?

I'm not a fan of City (obviously), but they are arguably in the top 5 teams in world footy right now.

That defeat to Utd has certainly dislodged a few of his brain cells.

So he's saying Oxford United is more their level. Fair enough

[Dim Glas]

Quotes from that BBC article deserve to be actually posted here, just for the utter hilarity of Guardiola's comments, especially the bolded bit:

"[Manchester] United have the quality to defend and the quality to attack on the counter-attack and you have to accept that," he added.

"That is the level we face against Liverpool, Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus. They are the teams we have to face and the reality is maybe we are not able now to compete with them.

"Maybe we need to live that as a club to improve, to accept the reality now and improve."

[rhysd]

Quotes from that BBC article deserve to be actually posted here, just for the utter hilarity of Guardiola's comments, especially the bolded bit:

"[Manchester] United have the quality to defend and the quality to attack on the counter-attack and you have to accept that," he added.

"That is the level we face against Liverpool, Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus. They are the teams we have to face and the reality is maybe we are not able now to compete with them.

"Maybe we need to live that as a club to improve, to accept the reality now and improve."

Unbelievable.

Can't compete? Need another half a billion pounds do you? You poor baby.

[thaddeus]

Sterling scored 18 goals in 20 games before coming to Anfield in November.

He's scored 1 in 6 since (or 1 in 7 if you include the game against us).

Gomez really messed him up!

[nuts100]

Maine Road was a shithole

The entire area was a shithole. The kippax was a fucking gruesome place

Went to watch them one year as my mate was a massive city fan. Went when they beat huddersfield 10-1 back in the 80's i think.
We'd been to Deansgate beforehand. Now that was a decent place to go to, good pubs and shops, stepping into maine road was like going inot a 3rd world country back then. However 3rd world countries have good people with wit and intelligence, none to be found in that area, gruesome

[Morgana]

This is all new to Pip, he's used to having more money than anyone and virtually no competition, how dare anyone challenge his team!

This is what riles me up: He's supposed to be one of the best managers in the world, and he's basically saying to his employers here: "Look at what I have.... It is not enough to compete with the best in Europe. You need to buy me more stuff so I can do my job." Talk about a spoilt brat. He is one of those managers who either inherit great teams or buys a bunch of top notch players at the start, all earning shitloads of money, run them into the ground, develop next to nobody from the youth set up, and then bugger off once the champion horses are knackered and ready for the glue factory. How about you reason with your impatient gobshite spoilt brat fanbase/owners, take the time to rebuild your team, inspire your mega-multi-millionaire squad, and develop some more youth players FFS!

He might as well resign now and bugger off back to Barcelona to help Messi win his 5th Champions League.

[Red Giant]

https://twitter.com/GrizzKhan/status/1203645708932390912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportbible.com%2Ffootball%2Fnews-noel-gallaghers-predictions-for-manchester-city-this-season-20191208

Unluckeeee

[Statto Red]

https://twitter.com/GrizzKhan/status/1203645708932390912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportbible.com%2Ffootball%2Fnews-noel-gallaghers-predictions-for-manchester-city-this-season-20191208

Unluckeeee

Well de does have a point, we are nowhere near City this season, [we're miles ahead of them]  .

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

I just can’t agree.


Expecting Sterling to condemn each and every racist act in the same way and style risks holding him to a deferent standard to everyone else..  which could of course be racist

Reacting to racism in Italy, and not saying a word about racism in your own ground where he saw the incident with his own eyes - that is hypocrisy. We Liverpool fans know that, it's nothing new for us, we're just making sure that everyone understands that too.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

This is brilliant https://youtu.be/7rMC7yFXMy8

[ScouserAtHeart]

Whatever happens, City are forward planning — this column previously reported a sense in the game that for the first time the club are preparing for life with or without Guardiola — and The Athletic is aware of a position they have been looking to fill that may raise further questions.

It is understood that candidates have been approached about a high-performance role and it was made clear during those conversations that this might be the last campaign of Guardiola’s tenure. City worked with headhunters to find the right hire and in meetings it was suggested that year one of the post would be low-key — largely spent in the background, gaining information and familiarity — but with a regime change then likely, the successful candidate should enjoy greater prominence thereafter.

It was apparently explained that making an external appointment would initially lead to internal distrust and scepticism from existing staff who themselves coveted the opportunity, as well as from Guardiola and his inner circle who might be wary of somebody from outside coming in.

An exact title was not specified but it was essentially described as a job to audit and oversee the first-team medical and fitness departments on behalf of the club, rather than Guardiola. At no point was it guaranteed he would be exiting next summer and City have not commented.

https://theathletic.com/1440713/2019/12/09/ornstein-on-monday-city-planning-for-life-after-pep-koscielny-and-ozils-goodbyes-to-emery-and-contract-talks-for-leicesters-maddison-and-soyuncu/

[Red Beret]

What does any of that even mean? If I'm understanding it right, its saying they were looking to hire a manager before Pep leaves who would stay in the background and basically hang around the club learning the ropes so they can have a smooth transition?

As an aside, all clubs go through transitions and rebuilds. It bugs me no end that City  - from Pep down to their fans - think they're entitled to just spend shedloads of cash to perpetually cling to top spot.

As a fan I'd find that do dull. Eventually teams figure you out and develop tactics to counter you; your players age and need replacing. And yes, you can do a Fergie if you're canny with transfers and know how to bring the youth on, so you can minimize the disruption. City just don't want to face any of those challenges.

They don't just want success  - they want easy success. Maybe its because of a lifetime in the wilderness, but they just don't want to fight for it.

The irony is they're kicking off because they're failing to reach the bar THEY set.

[McSquared]

Bunch of entitled c*nts from top to bottom

[SerbianScouser]

Their ability to stop the counter-attacks this season has almost completely evaporated.

Wonder if Klopp's mind games regarding tactical fouls played a part in it. I reckon they did.

[boots]

Fook off Noel, Mr eyebrow. You made one truly great album, then dropped into mediocrity. Knobbled yer own band getting rid of Bonehead and Guigsy. Liam is right, youre a fucking knob. Now you make music for middle class twats who think Coldplay is edgy. Fucking do one with your plinky plonky safe rock. Liam may be a knobhead, but hes an honest knobhead. You're just a snidey and bitter has-been.