Topic: A Christopher Nolan Thread

[BarryCrocker]

As long as the terrible french girl that sucked in Inception and Batman is out of the way I'm cool.

Also JGL can fuck off.

Mate, besides being drop dead gorgeous, she's won an Academy Award (La Vie en Rose) and did decent jobs in 'Midnight in Paris' as well as 'Rust and Bone".

[Haemoglobin]

I often think to myself when watching her how much she sucks.


Good actress though.

[Tommy_W]

Marion Cotillard?

Do you have a problem with good actors mate?

She was bloody awful in Batman to be fair. Her final scene was hilariously hammed up. People actually laughed out loud in the cinema

[Skidder.]

 Marion Coulthard (David's sister obviously) isn't in Interstellar.
 
 Why she is being criticised/defended when she isn't even in it is beyond me.

[Haemoglobin]

^ The Dark Knight Returns is really all over the place, so it's more telling that was all left how it was by the director and crew. Including her death scene, straight out of a '50s B-movie, ha. I've actually come to the conclusion that much of it is deliberate, like Bane's ridiculously abrupt and cheap departure, some of the editing and plot structure, etc. Like they couldn't really be arsed, so just started having a laugh with it.

She can do a hell of a lot better under more meticulous direction, clearly.



And in keeping with the perhaps slightly dodgy sexist tone of all my posts in this thread so far...  phwoar, eh?

[Haemoglobin]

*Rises, even.


Like I am now thinking of her.

[Skidder.]

I see the plot has been more or less leaked.

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...Nolan takes some risks with the story. McConaghey's "everyman" is sent accidentally through a wormhole, where he ends up on the other side of the galaxy. The aliens he meets there are (no surprise) humans just like us.

Quite predictably, it turns out they "seeded" the Earth millenia ago and have now decided to see if we are at a stage of evolution worthy of the mythical Next Step. This apparently involves playing chess with McConaghey, and of course the sexy female alien deciding to mate with him. He is given the opportunity to destroy the alien "master race" or allow them to come back through the wormhole to take over governance of Earth and harvesting/sharing of our resources.

I'll leave the result of the decision up to the film...

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Okay, I now see that this was some utter moonshit internet bullshit crap theory.

[jooneyisdagod]

I see the plot has been more or less leaked.

Spoiler

...Nolan takes some risks with the story. McConaghey's "everyman" is sent accidentally through a wormhole, where he ends up on the other side of the galaxy. The aliens he meets there are (no surprise) humans just like us.

Quite predictably, it turns out they "seeded" the Earth millenia ago and have now decided to see if we are at a stage of evolution worthy of the mythical Next Step. This apparently involves playing chess with McConaghey, and of course the sexy female alien deciding to mate with him. He is given the opportunity to destroy the alien "master race" or allow them to come back through the wormhole to take over governance of Earth and harvesting/sharing of our resources.

I'll leave the result of the decision up to the film...

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I must say, that sounds rather dull.

[Redman0151]

Excited for this, hope it's not absolute garbage like TDKR

[The G in Gerrard]

Excited for this, hope it's not absolute garbage like TDKR

TDKR wasn't garbage

[Skidder.]

I must say, that sounds rather dull.

Whilst I agree that its seems fairly rudimentary, I thought it was interesting.

A lot of these Sci-Fi films of late seem to be going in almost the same direction. They're all carrying with them a healthy portion of religious iconoclasm. Tom Cruise's new film Edge of Tomorrow, seems to be in a similar vein, but with a different twist. It does seem very starship trooper-like, but the idea that we were 'put' on this earth for a reason other than to procreate is an interesting one.

This Interstellar seems to me to be a story about the next step in Evolution. If you look at Darwen's theory of evolution, what would be the next step after "human"?

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

If you look at Darwen's theory of evolution, what would be the next step after "human"?

Human race mk2, without the twats, wools, bellends, dickheads and whoppers.

[Skidder.]

Human race mk2, without the twats, wools, bellends, dickheads and whoppers.

Well that is one possibility...

[jooneyisdagod]

Human race mk2, without the twats, wools, bellends, dickheads and whoppers.

However, if you believe what happens in Idiocracy it seems like its the twats, wools, bell ends, dickheads and whoppers who take over.

[jooneyisdagod]

Whilst I agree that its seems fairly rudimentary, I thought it was interesting.

A lot of these Sci-Fi films of late seem to be going in almost the same direction. They're all carrying with them a healthy portion of religious iconoclasm. Tom Cruise's new film Edge of Tomorrow, seems to be in a similar vein, but with a different twist. It does seem very starship trooper-like, but the idea that we were 'put' on this earth for a reason other than to procreate is an interesting one.

This Interstellar seems to me to be a story about the next step in Evolution. If you look at Darwen's theory of evolution, what would be the next step after "human"?

Personally I think its starting to get overdone a bit mate the whole we were put here for a reason narrative. In that sense, the new Star Wars films are almost a welcome release in terms of just going out and having an outlandish fantasy film set in space rather than attempting to combine science with a hint of realism with some rather unbelievable claims. Besides, as far as films of this ilk go, 2001 set the bar so high, I doubt it'll ever be beaten unless and until our understanding of space is fundamentally altered. 

[Skidder.]

However, if you believe what happens in Idiocracy it seems like its the twats, wools, bell ends, dickheads and whoppers who take over.

As funny as Idiocracy is the message that intelligence is lost is an interesting one.

[jooneyisdagod]

As funny as Idiocracy is the message that intelligence is lost is an interesting one.

I read a book called Blind Faith by Ben Elton (The guy that co-wrote the Blackadder series) and its got a similar plot and could IMO make for a great film for someone like Ricky Gervais to make. Similar to Idiocracy if people are wondering.

[vagabond]

This Interstellar seems to me to be a story about the next step in Evolution. If you look at Darwen's theory of evolution, what would be the next step after "human"?

[nitpick]
I'm not sure Darwin ever thought of evolution as having 'steps'...
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[Skidder.]

Personally I think its starting to get overdone a bit mate the whole we were put here for a reason narrative. In that sense, the new Star Wars films are almost a welcome release in terms of just going out and having an outlandish fantasy film set in space rather than attempting to combine science with a hint of realism with some rather unbelievable claims. Besides, as far as films of this ilk go, 2001 set the bar so high, I doubt it'll ever be beaten unless and until our understanding of space is fundamentally altered.

Good point on 2001. But 2001 was so cryptic that it almost carried with it a certain degree of gestalt-ism. I know the whole concept of 2001 was an interesting one that asks the question. Yep, nothing like a good old thoughtless film to tap straight into the emotional core of the brain.

But these recent theological films that do in fact lay question to the reason for humankind puts religious enlightenment right in the spotlight. I for one, think that, that is only a good thing.

[Skidder.]

[nitpick]
I'm not sure Darwin ever thought of evolution as having 'steps'...
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 Mate, I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about when it comes to Darwen's theories other than referencing on Wikipedia. I'm just talking shit here.

[Redman0151]

TDKR wasn't garbage

Awful dialogue, poor pacing, ridiculous jumps in logic, strange character motivations

It was definitely garbage compared to what came before it

[Skidder.]

Awful dialogue, poor pacing, ridiculous jumps in logic, strange character motivations

It was definitely garbage compared to what came before it

Gotta say, I kind of agree here.

After numerous viewings of the Nolan's Batman series, this one has by far the worst Screenplay. It does seem like it was rushed.

It looks good as a film, and all the cliche's, motifs and ideas are there. But I think it's poorly written.

[vagabond]

Mate, I won't pretend to know what I'm talking about when it comes to Darwen's theories other than referencing on Wikipedia. I'm just talking shit here.

Fair enough. I get why you would think that though, especially if the film, as you say, has a sort of underlying religious theme then it makes sense to think of evolution as having a purpose and a goal towards which it is working.

[Skidder.]

Fair enough. I get why you would think that though, especially if the film, as you say, has a sort of underlying religious theme then it makes sense to think of evolution as having a purpose and a goal towards which it is working.

Well this is Prometheus all over again isn't it?

Some would say that what sets these recent "What is humankind?" science fiction films apart from the others is the strong atheist undertones. I for one think they're great. Whilst it could be said that a lot of Tom Cruise's recent films are full of Scientology-symbolism, fuck it I say, as long as it tells a good story that I can buy into, it's fine by my book.

[TheDarkKnight]

I watched The Dark Knight Rises four times in the week it came out, which would suggest I absolutely clucked for it, but having seen it back a few times since I realised I was just a bit carried away.

Not a bad film by any means but there were a fair few plotholes and scenes definitely seemed rushed. It looks worse when you compare it to The Dark Knight and Batman Begins, too, but that's unfair - on its own it is a decent movie, just not what it perhaps could and should have been given the predecessors and super-strong cast.

Interstellar I am hyped for. Was hyped for Prometheus which turned out to be a bit of a mess but I have great faith in Nolan.

[Skidder.]

I watched The Dark Knight Rises four times in the week it came out, which would suggest I absolutely clucked for it, but having seen it back a few times since I realised I was just a bit carried away.

Not a bad film by any means but there were a fair few plotholes and scenes definitely seemed rushed. It looks worse when you compare it to The Dark Knight and Batman Begins, too, but that's unfair - on its own it is a decent movie, just not what it perhaps could and should have been given the predecessors and super-strong cast.

Interstellar I am hyped for. Was hyped for Prometheus which turned out to be a bit of a mess but I have great faith in Nolan.

Straight from the horses mouth there. No-one can argue with that.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

He's terrible!

[Sinos]

looks interesting

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[Redman0151]

Looks like it could be very good, I just hope 90% of it isn't focused on family shit and we get some cool sci-fi

[Sinos]

Looks like it could be very good, I just hope 90% of it isn't focused on family shit and we get some cool sci-fi

The clip of space warping around the ship suggests that the story has some sort of time travel component

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I just nicked this little plot description of latino review

"Interstellar" chronicles the adventures of a group of explorers who make use of a newly discovered wormhole to surpass the limitations on human space travel and conquer the vast distances involved in an interstellar voyage.

[Redman0151]

The clip of space warping around the ship suggests that the story has some sort of time travel component

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I just nicked this little plot description of latino review

Yeah I get the concept of it, I just hope most of the film is exploring the wormhole and the ideas behind it and what's on the other side rather than stuck on a farm weighing up the morality of leaving his kids behind

[TepidT2O]

Reminds me of Star Trek first contact.....

[Skidder.]

Trailer is a bit so-so isn't it?

It does hark of there being a family drama at the crux of it.

[TepidT2O]

Trailer is a bit so-so isn't it?

It does hark of there being a family drama at the crux of it.

It looks a touch Spielberg does the trailer......


Still, is that trailer a summery of the film or just the very beginning?  Who knows?

[Skidder.]

It looks a touch Spielberg does the trailer......


Still, is that trailer a summery of the film or just the very beginning?  Who knows?

Well it's essentially the first act I'd guess.

Showing you the setup...

[Kashinoda]

I loved the trailer and I'm already suitably set up to disappoint myself.

I'm guessing the movie is around 40 minutes setting it up and around 90 minutes + in space.

[Skidder.]

Quite a bit like

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Source Code

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, no?

....

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no

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[Skidder.]

Kinda sounds just like it!

Sorry mate, I honestly thought you were joking...

You think Source Code has a similar synopsis to this?

What do you mean?

[ollick]

Not the synopsis as much as the

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time loops thing. In Source Code, Gyllenhaal is also dead and used to relive an event time and time again until he gets something right.

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Sounds more like the new Tom Cruise film Edge of Tomorrow

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in it he plays a soldier who has to relive the last day of his life fighting an alien army until he gets it right and wins

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Or even Groundhog Day!

[Skidder.]

New trailer will be out soon. Christopher Nolan made a "secret" appearance at Comic-Con.