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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: LFC's next manager - chat and informed speculation
« Last post by Samie on Today at 06:13:21 pm »
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General Football and Sport / Re: Premier League Fixtures 27th - 28th April
« Last post by Fromola on Today at 06:12:47 pm »Even if we'd won the last two games it'd be looking hopeless tonight. Today was the best chance of Arsenal dropping points '(United and Everton in their last 3 who would throw the game) and along with Spurs away the best chance of City.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: The Title Race 2023/24- Jurgen's Last Dance
« Last post by Keith Lard on Today at 06:12:26 pm »I think we all knew by the Palace game.
I did tell someone at the time if we freezed the table after that game and then showed it to us back in August we'd have got very excited. Level on points at the top, 6 games left, with only GD separating us. Problem was living in the now we could see the constant struggles in every game. Wide open midfield defensively, disjointed, inability to grind out wins. Every game was going to be a rollercoaster, and you dont win leagues that way.
I think had Jurgen stayed one more season he'd have finally got the required 6, the midfield would have been up and running (plus the 8s would be fully accustomed to the team), the team would have looked more complete and would have functioned more like a Klopp team.
All hindsight talk. Our strikers have let us down at the clutch time of the year. That’s the long and short of it. It’s ok to admit the truth - we let an amazing position turn to crap after all the hard work earlier in the year.
If we learn from the experience then it can be the making of us in future years.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by Eeyore on Today at 06:12:12 pm »I'm not interested in your personal interpretation, or more accurately speculation upon your part regarding "Jota only really attempts the kind of chances that he is very good at". It's the worst kind of rationalisation and clearly not the case if you've watched him play, so I'll stick to facts:
You were perplexed at why people thought that Jota was a better finisher than Nunez. Well, it's because he puts his chances away, as evidenced by the xG vs goals scored, both for this season and previous seasons compared to Nunez overall. The xG pool of 55 goals measured over 6 seasons for Jota is an ample pool to draw conclusions from, regardless of how you want to spin it.
In terms of the "what counts is how many goals you score" argument, you were previously arguing (using cherry-picked stats incidentally) for Nunez having not scored as many as others in the league due to less minutes played. So why is it that you conveniently don't apply the same logic when talking about Jota? Because the fact is that he has 1 goal less this season in the league than Nunez, having played over 9 games worth of minutes less, so using your previous argument has been far more prolific than Nunez, having a goal every 114 minutes vs Nunex goal every 181 minutes. This despite him apparently "being selective" or some such bollocks. Strange.
Finally, you argue that Nunez has a high chance of turning into a 20-25 goal a season striker because he has so many shots. If - and it's a big IF - Nunez can sort his finishing out then great, he could be a massive threat. I find it hard to believe that will somehow magically happen though after seeing no improvement in his finishing in two years here. It's all well and good arguing that players who take more shots score more goals, but that is only true if you are also able to finish those chances. Nunez has more shots on goal than any other player in the league with 104 shots...and 11 goals. Isak, as an example of contrast, has 19 goals from 61 shots.
The thing is there isn't that much of a difference between their goals to xG over their careers. Nunez is slightly under his 68 goals to 74 xG whilst Jota is slightly over 57 goals to 55 xG. Then you look at their goalscoring rate throughout their career and Nunez is at .61 goals per 90 minutes played, whilst Jota is at .46 goals per 90 minute played.
Then we look at G+A through their careers and Nunez is .82 per 90, whilst Jota is on .60.
Given that Nunez is two and a half years younger and has a better recent injury record then for me it is clear which one of them is more likely to be a 20-25 League goal striker.
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General Football and Sport / Re: Premier League Fixtures 27th - 28th April
« Last post by deano2727 on Today at 06:11:42 pm »Yes but will Spurs try
Depends if they have a shot at 4th or not you'd imagine. They'll need to beat us at Anfield and Chelsea at Stamford Bridge before that.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by PaleBlueDot on Today at 06:10:01 pm »But seemingly 'staticos' should take people like you seriously. I.e. you say something you've made up in your head, evidence is presented to demonstrate it's nonsense but you plough ahead anyway and carry on pretending you're right despite all the evidence to the contrary.
Honestly, I do love stats. Up until someone tries to use it to tell me Nunez is having comparable seasons to Mane/Firmino in effectiveness.
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General Football and Sport / Re: Premier League Fixtures 27th - 28th April
« Last post by Legs on Today at 06:09:44 pm »This title race is in the balance for me
City v Spurs if city are like this is game on
Yes but will Spurs try
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General Football and Sport / Re: Premier League Fixtures 27th - 28th April
« Last post by Tonyh8su on Today at 06:09:43 pm »He's incredible. We so need that.
Nunez would have been looking to aim for the keepers noggin in that situation.
Spot on but pointing out the obvious. It's been well documented for years now that Arsenal are without a prolific number 9.
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General Football and Sport / Re: Premier League Fixtures 27th - 28th April
« Last post by Fromola on Today at 06:09:37 pm »They pretty much have 2 starting 11s, a semi final wouldn’t have made any difference for them. Bad results are the only thing that sometimes knock them off stride, they don’t get injuries.
Their depth is no better than ours, they just keep players fit.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Wool on Today at 06:09:34 pm »Hes not irreplaceable anymore, hes become predictable, his final ball which was never that good, shooting has gone. Its one of those where it suits all parties to go their own way.
Hopefully we get a decent fee and some new blood and thanks for the memories.
