Topic: Draft Towers

[Samie]

If we're doing the footie draft call the likes of Drinks Sangria, Andy Muller and Lone Star mate. 

[tubby]

In for whatever.

[Hazell]

Yeah I'm in.

[Draex]

Premier League draft - 11 from 11 different nations

Sign-ups:

Me
Samie
Lastrador
Szobosslad
Draex
Hazell?

Vivabobby, mikey, classycarra, Musketeer Gripweed, John_P, Titi Camara, telekon, red mongoose, Max_powers, NICHOLLS, Sheer Magnetism, Elzar, Nick 69, RobbieRedman, red1977, Wullie160975, Drinks Sangria

Usually up for a draft.

[Elzar]

I'll do the 11 from 11 draft.

Not interested in the none-sport drafts.

[Betty Blue]

The 'Football was invented in 1992' Sly Sports Premier League draft



1992-Present day

11 from 11 (one country per team)

Players judged on their performances in this era only

Sign-ups:

Me
Samie
Lastrador
Szobosslad
Draex
Tubby
Hazell
Elzar
Robbie
Sheer Mag

[Betty Blue]

Just PMed the old gang

[RobbieRedman]

In.

[Sheer Magnetism]

Yep. I'd rather do the teams but countries is fine too.

[Betty Blue]

Yep. I'd rather do the teams but countries is fine too.

We did a 11 from 11 clubs edition with the EPL a couple of years ago. Maybe that would be good for Nicholls original all leagues 1990-present draft idea though.

[Samie]

Right, LET'S GO!

[Lone Star Red]

I'm in.

[Draex]

We did a 11 from 11 clubs edition with the EPL a couple of years ago. Maybe that would be good for Nicholls original all leagues 1990-present draft idea though.

We not doing clubs and countries?

So if you chose Ali Dia (George Weahs cousin) you'd not be able to pick Southampton and Senegal.

Can't believe you don't know this popular football culture player Betty!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Dia

[child-in-time]

I am in.

[red1977]

In for this, cheers.

[Chakan]

Yeah why not.

[vivabobbygraham]

Yep

[Samie]

VBG, how's it going grandad?

[Crosby Nick]

Go on then.

[Max_powers]

I might sit this one out. Will have more time around Christmas.

[vivabobbygraham]

VBG, how's it going grandad?

Good, mate. How about you, you little munchkin (*pinches cheeks really fucking hard*) 

[mikey_LFC]

I’m in.

Is having 11 different nations the only criteria?

And is it judged on Premier League performances or all within the era?

[Drinks Sangria]

I’ve a heavy end of year workload and then off to New York for a week, so will sit this one out. Mid December onwards my work dries up until the New Year and I’ve 12 days off around Christmas so definitely will get involved with anything kicking off then.

[Samie]

I want all records of Trend wiped from Draft history, Any wins should be stripped and given to the runner up.

[Samie]

Gazette Seria A Draft next huh Betts? When we doing that?

[Hazell]

Gazette Seria A Draft next huh Betts? When we doing that?

Let's get it started. Given all the talk of Trend's corruption, we should allow for some in this draft, given it's Serie A.

[Betty Blue]

I want all records of Trend wiped from Draft history, Any wins should be stripped and given to the runner up.

I don't think Trend ever won a footy draft, which is more impressive all things considered    But I don't think he was always doing this. My guess is he only put out calls when he thought he had a shot at winning. There are three finals he reached though, which perhaps he shouldn't have done. All were tight votes with one vote in it. But who knows really. We need investigators to sift through Robbie's PMs for more evidence 

Gazette Seria A Draft next huh Betts? When we doing that?

I'm busy until Christmas now. It takes a lot of work to run a draft properly.

[Samie]

I knew that guy was a wrong 'un from the very beginning.  No one enters the Draft world without me knowing about it. 

[tubby]

Would be amazed if Trend was the only one doing it.  There have been plenty of big and unexpected vote swings in drafts over the years.

[Betty Blue]

Would be amazed if Trend was the only one doing it.  There have been plenty of big and unexpected vote swings in drafts over the years.

I know of at least one former drafter who had a second account. He once posted thinking he was on his main account and quickly deleted the post, but I saw it and PMed the culprit. He swore he never used it for voting, but I mean why have it otherwise?

[Samie]

RAWK Drafts more corrupt than FIFA , I've always said it. 

[Samie]

When we getting 30+ votes in drafts it's a little harder to call it out though.  Remember some drafts we got over 50 votes too.

[tubby]

I know of at least one former drafter who had a second account. He once posted thinking he was on his main account and quickly deleted the post, but I saw it and PMed the culprit. He swore he never used it for voting, but I mean why have it otherwise?

It is someone still around?

[Samie]

It's not one of the oldies I'm betting. A newbie drafter.

[Betty Blue]

It is someone still around?

No, they got banned awhile back. They were one of the more sound drafters, which is what made it all the more surprising.

[Betty Blue]

It's not one of the oldies I'm betting. A newbie drafter.

Not a newbie. There are plenty of newbies who have had multiple accounts though. Whether they had them simultaneously is another matter.

[Elzar]

I always vote against myself on the 4 accounts I have, but not before I have put a massive bet on myself to lose.

[Lastrador]

I always vote against myself on the 4 accounts I have, but not before I have put a massive bet on myself to lose.

Are you Italian mate ?

[Crosby Nick]

Would be amazed if Trend was the only one doing it.  There have been plenty of big and unexpected vote swings in drafts over the years.

In my first couple of drafts, mainly non football I did the odd bit of draft vote begging. As did my opponents. I only know the latter because I was out with royhendo when he got a PM from Jason42 asking for a vote - I was playing his team. So that was all fair game. We had about 50 votes between us for a rugby draft.

Now it’s just a hardcore of 15-20 sad bastards like us there’s no point reaching out to others!

[Betty Blue]

In my first couple of drafts, mainly non football I did the odd bit of draft vote begging. As did my opponents. I only know the latter because I was out with royhendo when he got a PM from Jason42 asking for a vote - I was playing his team. So that was all fair game. We had about 50 votes between us for a rugby draft.

Now it’s just a hardcore of 15-20 sad bastards like us there’s no point reaching out to others!

I'm quite sure a lot of that happened in the early early days. Back then it felt like RAWK drafts were more popularity contests    I remember El Campeador winning two early footy drafts with clearly not the best team.

And yeah, I don't think much is happening these days. There are barely 16-18 votes each round, which suggests maybe 2 outside voters. It's when you get these weird spikes of 20+ voters that you start to wonder. That's not happened for a couple of years now.

There was definitely a time (before Trend) when we had some very suspect voting though. I was told awhile back that several draft regulars all knew each other. It came second hand though, so I won't name them because maybe that person was stirring. Who knows. But I think it's perfectly likely that people would have IRL mates on here. There's been enough irregularities in past RAWK votes for us all to have questions.