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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #320 on: January 31, 2007, 05:13:12 pm »
anyone think DIC will be back

If everyone who thinks they love the club and want it to do well and blah fucking blah are right, then of course they will.

If, though, that's all shite and they've got a wee bit angry that we haven't rolled over and sucked their arab cocks, of course they fucking won't.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #321 on: January 31, 2007, 05:13:25 pm »
FFS  :butt

Moores IS THE BOARD!

Every one of them is HIS appointee and holds proxy shares on HIS behalf.

no need for the bold lettertype, I was only stating an opinion. This is, after all, a place where free speech is tolerated, even if sometimes you don't agree with it.

If you read the statement carefully you'll see that HE, David Moores, had agreed in principle that the sale would proceed, but that the deal could not be agreed with the rest of the board. Now I understand that they are just holding proxy shares on his behalf, but surely there must have been an agenda behind this. I can only point the finger at some of our other shareholders (e.g Granada and/or Morgan) scuppering the deal to get one back at him. For all we know, they may have approached the other board members and raised concerns that we may be taking a cut price offer, and try to hold out for more cash. Moores, being chairman, has obviously listened to them and advised Gillett that he could look at the books. DIC have taken this as a betrayal of a verbal agreement and told them to do one. Which now leaves us in a tricky spot; does Moores sack the board and go back to DIC, or does he go himself?

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #322 on: January 31, 2007, 05:13:25 pm »
Just to help you out here are the stages you will experience or are experiencing at the moment. You can track this through the thread and I think we're still mainly at anger but touching on bargaining.

Denial

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Depression

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #323 on: January 31, 2007, 05:13:27 pm »
What fucking tools our board are.  Shilly-shallying bastards, all of them - shall we take a deal to make LFC into a world Power House once again?  or shall we fuck around, piss them off and consider a guy who likes things just ticking over.


If I had a seasie (which I can't get as WE STILL HAVEN'T BUILT THE NEW FUCKING GROUND), I'd rip the fucker up as we have a board that in no way matches the ambition we have as supporters.

Go fuck themselves.
Why not go in and finance it yourself then?

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #324 on: January 31, 2007, 05:13:56 pm »
And therin lies the problems. They'll fanny about and piss about for two weeks, discussing it and being unsure what to say, and then release a statement.

This won't have been sprung on LFC an hour ago. Even if it was, they'll know why already.

The normal fucking slow arsed shoddy shite from the club.

OK I see your point. I guess they didnt just hear about the withdrawl on SSN as well !
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #325 on: January 31, 2007, 05:14:18 pm »
??? numb. speechless. amazed. depressed.

Yah, kneejerk central it is. bloody hell.

If this is not sorted sharpish I worry for the lads on Saturday - they are bound to be all unsettled after all this. Lets hope it is all cleared up by Friday otherwise there is hell to pray...
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #326 on: January 31, 2007, 05:14:25 pm »
Wow kneejerks worse than a 6-3 home defeat

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #327 on: January 31, 2007, 05:14:30 pm »
The way I see it:

DIC have worked hard at trying to make this the best possible deal for us. Now we have betrayed them in a sense by allowing Gillett to look at the books and make an offer. Yes, DIC have spent a lot during the due dilligence period but that is a risk that all businesses take when looking to invest.

Many are optimistic that this is a stunt to put pressure on the board; I think that it is genuine. Many businesses and clubs would welcome DIC with open arms - we were first in line because of the Sheik's supporting of the club. Now that we've fucked them over they will simply move on to someone else. Do you really think it matters to them who they buy? Whether they buy us or a club like Wigan they still stand to make millions back on their investment.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #328 on: January 31, 2007, 05:14:32 pm »
meanwhile, absoloutely fuck all about this on .tv

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/

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I suppose it IS only 75 minutes since the news broke though...

A statement on this needs to come from the top so it's hardly surprising.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #329 on: January 31, 2007, 05:14:47 pm »
Just to help you out here are the stages you will experience or are experiencing at the moment. You can track this through the thread and I think we're still mainly at anger but touching on bargaining.

Denial

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i must still be at the Denial stage
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #330 on: January 31, 2007, 05:14:52 pm »
Fuck. Disaster. Now the council money will evaporate as well.
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #331 on: January 31, 2007, 05:14:59 pm »
If everyone who thinks they love the club and want it to do well and blah fucking blah are right, then of course they will.

If, though, that's all shite and they've got a wee bit angry that we haven't rolled over and sucked their arab cocks, of course they fucking won't.

You dont mix love with business. Like there statement said; as business men they move on but as fans ect ect ::)

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #332 on: January 31, 2007, 05:15:05 pm »
Statement issued by Liverpool FC

5.15pm GMT 31st January 2007 AD

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #333 on: January 31, 2007, 05:15:09 pm »
i must still be at the Denial stage

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #334 on: January 31, 2007, 05:15:12 pm »
So what happens if the American bid is accepted.

We as the fans need to do something to stop that deal going through.
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #335 on: January 31, 2007, 05:15:14 pm »
give them a chance!

Well how long did it take for DIC to release a statement? We had to hear about this from them. Not hear what Parry and Moores have to say

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #336 on: January 31, 2007, 05:15:50 pm »
Just to help you out here are the stages you will experience or are experiencing at the moment. You can track this through the thread and I think we're still mainly at anger but touching on bargaining.

Denial

Anger

Bargaining

Depression

Acceptance

I'm just going straight to Depression. It's easier that way.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #337 on: January 31, 2007, 05:16:20 pm »
Let's take a bit of perspective on this.

DIC are masters at the PR game - look at how they have us salivating at the prospect of them taking over, and how they have convinced all us very traditionalist supporters that a bunch of very sharp, business-orientated arabs are just the very chaps we need running our club.  A masterstroke, no?

So if you were them and were faced with a counter-bid of a few mill more, what would you do?

A: Nothing, just sit back and politely wait to be asked for more cash

B: Put out a press release talking about how much you love Liverpool, look forward to continue supporting it, regret you cannot pay, etc...generate tons of headlines and page after page of emotional outpouring AGAINST Moores, Gillet, the LFC board...then sit back and watch the board come to you cap in hand.

Just think about it...
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #338 on: January 31, 2007, 05:16:24 pm »
Just to help you out here are the stages you will experience or are experiencing at the moment. You can track this through the thread and I think we're still mainly at anger but touching on bargaining.

Denial

Anger

Bargaining

Depression

Acceptance

also

Erotica
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #339 on: January 31, 2007, 05:16:39 pm »
So what happens if the American bid is accepted.

We as the fans need to do something to stop that deal going through.

We can go form FC Lpool ;)

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #340 on: January 31, 2007, 05:16:42 pm »
it doest work like that mate. these are some of the most successfull businessman in the world, worth billions. 

Are they bollocks. They own a few oil wells, TravelLodge and a second rate horse racing operation. They are to business what Bully's special prize is to quiz shows. They saw that a bigger offer was coming in and they tried to force the board's hand. Losers. And I hope Moores tells Gillett to take a hike and all. Arsenal built their own ground with their own money, and so can we.
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #341 on: January 31, 2007, 05:17:01 pm »
Its terrible news and the investment would have been great since we'd have money as well as Moores and Parry still in charge. It's not a disaster though. I'm not sure about Gillet but we still need investment for the stadium and that's 15,000 extra tickets every home game, together with the new tv revenue and money the investor brings in (even if its not much) we're going to be a very healthy club. Unfortunately I doubt we'll ever be the best club in the world or even England again if we can't match Chelsea's and Utd's spending but there's still the occasional league to fight for hopefully...

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #342 on: January 31, 2007, 05:17:34 pm »
Just to help you out here are the stages you will experience or are experiencing at the moment. You can track this through the thread and I think we're still mainly at anger but touching on bargaining.

Denial

Anger

Bargaining

Depression

Acceptance

also

Erotica

You just cut and posted my earlier post ??
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #343 on: January 31, 2007, 05:17:39 pm »
The boards on the official site have gone down,coincidence my fooking hairy arse.

Tossers the lot of them.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #344 on: January 31, 2007, 05:17:42 pm »
So what happens if the American bid is accepted.

We as the fans need to do something to stop that deal going through.

Yeah let's start up our own club called FC Liverpool of Liverpool, and then the next season when Rafa leads the lads at Liverpool FC to victory and everything is still fine at the club we can all just sneak back in and pretend we were fine with the deal

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #345 on: January 31, 2007, 05:17:44 pm »
The way I see it:

DIC have worked hard at trying to make this the best possible deal for us. Now we have betrayed them in a sense by allowing Gillett to look at the books and make an offer. Yes, DIC have spent a lot during the due dilligence period but that is a risk that all businesses take when looking to invest.

Many are optimistic that this is a stunt to put pressure on the board; I think that it is genuine. Many businesses and clubs would welcome DIC with open arms - we were first in line because of the Sheik's supporting of the club. Now that we've fucked them over they will simply move on to someone else. Do you really think it matters to them who they buy? Whether they buy us or a club like Wigan they still stand to make millions back on their investment.


Yep, I do think they care which club they buy. Chelsea and the Mancs are sold, for DIC it would be us or Arsenal. There's no one else people of this wealth and ego would consider putting their money and name to.

I think they'll be back, and I think Gillett's bid will crumble under scrutiny, not least cos it can't be accepted without Moores' say-so. And despite the fuck-ups he's made, despite the dithering, I don't think we should doubt he wants to do what's best for the club.
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #346 on: January 31, 2007, 05:17:56 pm »
A statement on this needs to come from the top so it's hardly surprising.
Well how long did it take for DIC to release a statement? We had to hear about this from them. Not hear what Parry and Moores have to say

Exactly.

Perhaps if the club were a bit quicker acting, things like the CL merchandise, the late sponsorship, the ever increasing costs of the stadium, the Simao deal, the Neill deal, and today alone the Mascherano deal and the DIC investment might not have been all royally fucked up...
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #347 on: January 31, 2007, 05:18:01 pm »
Just to help you out here are the stages you will experience or are experiencing at the moment. You can track this through the thread and I think we're still mainly at anger but touching on bargaining.

Denial

Anger

Bargaining

Depression

Acceptance

also

Erotica

Im past denial... i know DIC have fucked off for good. Im in anger... will be for a while.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #348 on: January 31, 2007, 05:18:09 pm »
So what happens if the American bid is accepted.

We as the fans need to do something to stop that deal going through.
No we don't, the board will fuck this up too.
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #349 on: January 31, 2007, 05:18:15 pm »
This is no way to run a railroad.  Where is Parry now?  There should be masses of supporters outside the gates demanding an answer.

Great protests outside advocated, when did we become Newcastle??  Let's wait and see what happens, let's hear the club's version as well. Disappointed to say the least, but when sellling the family silver you can only do it once.
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #350 on: January 31, 2007, 05:18:22 pm »
Just to help you out here are the stages you will experience or are experiencing at the moment. You can track this through the thread and I think we're still mainly at anger but touching on bargaining.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #351 on: January 31, 2007, 05:18:41 pm »
Are they bollocks. They own a few oil wells, TravelLodge and a second rate horse racing operation. They are to business what Bully's special prize is to quiz shows. They saw that a bigger offer was coming in and they tried to force the board's hand. Losers. And I hope Moores tells Gillett to take a hike and all. Arsenal built their own ground with their own money, and so can we.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #352 on: January 31, 2007, 05:18:42 pm »
Football as usual.Football as usual.

Due dilligence , offers , acceptance , bids , rejections etc are all part of business.

If Gillette shares same vision as DIC shared with Liverpool then they are welcome.

But more important than all Saturday 3rd February 2007  12.45.

Lets move on , gutted or not.As for Rafa I hope we get Maschareno.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #353 on: January 31, 2007, 05:19:13 pm »
After all their posturing about understanding the club's needs, it suprises me that DIC would be so shallow as to pull out just because another offer is being considered.  I must believe that either they are still interested but posturing, or they never really gave a toss about the club in the first.  Parry and the board have done the right thing all along.  It would be wrong to refuse to consider a higher bid. 

 :butt

So Gillett has a whip-round, gets a few loans and puts a wad of cash on the table two inches higher than the one from Dubai and we fall for it?

The Dubai deal was supposedly set up to keep Moores in place at the club and that's why he went for it.

All Gillett will have done is offer the silly twat some non-position so he can still go to all the games on the club's dime.

Meanwhile, DIC, backed by the one of the richest men in the world and the wealth of the state of Dubai pulls out because Moores The Muppet achieves a few more quid in his arse-pocket and still gets to go to the match and pretend to be "one of us".

It's a fucking JOKE.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #354 on: January 31, 2007, 05:19:14 pm »
Let's take a bit of perspective on this.

DIC are masters at the PR game - look at how they have us salivating at the prospect of them taking over, and how they have convinced all us very traditionalist supporters that a bunch of very sharp, business-orientated arabs are just the very chaps we need running our club.  A masterstroke, no?

So if you were them and were faced with a counter-bid of a few mill more, what would you do?

A: Nothing, just sit back and politely wait to be asked for more cash

B: Put out a press release talking about how much you love Liverpool, look forward to continue supporting it, regret you cannot pay, etc...generate tons of headlines and page after page of emotional outpouring AGAINST Moores, Gillet, the LFC board...then sit back and watch the board come to you cap in hand.

Just think about it...

I agree.

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #355 on: January 31, 2007, 05:19:28 pm »
Anyone spot a headline of

DICs out for the Reds

yet?
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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #356 on: January 31, 2007, 05:19:33 pm »
Great protests outside advocated, when did we become Newcastle??


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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #357 on: January 31, 2007, 05:19:35 pm »
at least with FC Libpool itll be wool free ;)

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #358 on: January 31, 2007, 05:20:18 pm »
Any one up for a chant at the Derby Saturday??????? The old standard sack the board or you don't know what you are doing would be good enough. Ansani will be at the game so if nothing else it will be a thank you to him for at least trying to oush us forward.

i fucking hope and pray that i never live to see the day that anything like that is sung around anfield. we are liverpool fc not some fucking third rate middle of the road fucking shambles of a club with fickle fans who will rip up their season tickets in front of the cameras just to get their own way...fuck me some fans have very short memories. is it not the same board that has financially backed rafa (and houllier before him) to the best of their ability.....i like to think we have class and dignity as a club and as supporters that itll never lead to shite like 'sack the board' chants...fuck off with your kneejerk shite

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Re: DIC pull out of deal
« Reply #359 on: January 31, 2007, 05:20:19 pm »
Bloody ell.   ???

It does seem like a kneejerk reaction from DIC.  Their statement, towards the end, is almost child-like  (e.g. as business men we move on, and we hope as Liverpool supporters that their new owners blah blah blah, etc)

If that's the way DIC do business, then we're better off without them.  We don't need people who throw their toys out of the pram at the slightest annoyance.  Other clubs can have those types of leaders (eg egghead at west ham, shepherd a newcastle).  We always had a bit more class at the top.

As shareholders/directors of the club, our people have every damn right to consider all offers on the table. OK, I am no fan of the Gillette (sensor 2 was shite),  but for goodness sake if DIC were mature business people they'd understand that we had to look at it.  If the shoe was on the other foot, they'd be looking at all proposals prior to selling one of their assets.

I'm very depressed at this turn of events.....the pricks probably think they have us over a barrel - with the stadium build having to start by March time.  And fuk it, we are over a barrel.  Bastards.

I can only hope their statement was a kneekerk reaction and that parry is on the phone at the minute trying to get to the bottom of their bizarre reaction.