Author Topic: James Milner - El Burro Magnifico (Read 578701 times)

tubby · « **Reply #240 on:** May 6, 2016, 11:53:50 am »

Quote from: harryc on May 6, 2016, 11:53:25 am

Has been very good recently as long he is not asked to play as one of the two in central midfield.

Isn't that where he's been playing though?

thisyearisouryear · « **Reply #241 on:** May 6, 2016, 11:57:04 am »

Quote from: harryc on May 6, 2016, 11:53:25 am

Has been very good recently as long he is not asked to play as one of the two in central midfield.

He played as one of the two in central midfield yesterday, though.

harryc · « **Reply #242 on:** May 6, 2016, 11:57:47 am »

Quote from: thisyearisouryear on May 6, 2016, 11:57:04 am

He played as one of the two in central midfield yesterday, though.

Really looked like 4141 to me.

redmark · « **Reply #243 on:** May 6, 2016, 12:30:57 pm »

442 defensive shape, offensively (generally) CBs split, Can dropped (though carried the ball a few times) and Milner pushed into the AM area.

Gnurglan · « **Reply #244 on:** May 6, 2016, 12:39:18 pm »

Yet another player who has improved under Klopp. I was sceptical when we began playing him in CM, but he's done better than I expected. Pleased to see his number of assists. We all knew he could work hard and help the team, but when he adds those assists and some goals, he goes from being a reliable player to something else. I'd say he's becoming a key player for us.

Beninger · « **Reply #245 on:** May 7, 2016, 03:36:13 am »

Proper performance from him. Led by example.

IndianRed · « **Reply #246 on:** May 7, 2016, 05:38:21 am »

That pass to Lallana in the first half was Gerrard-esque. An absolute thing of beauty that I didn't think Milner had in his locker until now.

Zeb · « **Reply #247 on:** May 7, 2016, 08:06:23 am »

Nice little moment the other night as he was leaving the pitch. Took his shirt off and made sure the young lad got it.

Think he's everything and more we knew he was before he came. Professional, hard working, no fuss, a genuine team player who'll do a decent shift wherever the manager asks him to play. Done well for us this season.

Redman78 · « **Reply #248 on:** May 7, 2016, 08:11:33 am »

Milly's proving to be a proper captain in recent times. Leads by example.

newterp · « **Reply #249 on:** May 7, 2016, 02:43:57 pm »

It's also a matter of adapting to what Klopp asks of him - like so many other players have also done. 3 months ago he was still a headless chicken who ran all day long but didn't do much (an assist here or there, maybe a goal). In the last 3 months - he has cranked it up a notch or 2 even. He's been immense - especially given the late season injuries we had.

kasperoff · « **Reply #250 on:** May 7, 2016, 02:47:13 pm »

A number of players have turned a corner since Christmas. Can, Clyne and Milner have all been great since the turn of the year.

AlphaDelta · « **Reply #251 on:** May 7, 2016, 03:56:39 pm »

Really think he's become an influencial player recently, hardworking, professional and a leader. My only thing is I think he is awful at corners, someone else needs to take them.

xstoofer · « **Reply #252 on:** May 7, 2016, 04:20:57 pm »

Quote from: harryc on May 6, 2016, 11:57:47 am

Really looked like 4141 to me.

I'm sure Klopp was shouting 4-1-4-1 during the game and it wasn't the score he wanted!!!

Alf Garnett! · « **Reply #253 on:** May 31, 2016, 06:31:42 pm »

Euro 2016: England's James Milner fifth best player at Euro 2016
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36420669

killer-heels · « **Reply #254 on:** May 31, 2016, 07:18:48 pm »

Quote from: Bobby Davro! on May 31, 2016, 06:31:42 pm

Euro 2016: England's James Milner fifth best player at Euro 2016
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36420669

Sign him up.

whiteboots · « **Reply #255 on:** June 3, 2016, 08:31:09 pm »

I have known him personally, as an acquaintance on and off for several years. Off the field he is the consummate professional who takes his career very seriously, no wonder he has ben so popular with managers at all his clubs.

CraigDS · « **Reply #256 on:** June 3, 2016, 08:32:37 pm »

Quote from: whiteboots on June 3, 2016, 08:31:09 pm

I have known him personally, as an acquaintance on and off for several years. Off the field he is the consummate professional who takes his career very seriously, no wonder he has ben so popular with managers at all his clubs.

I imagine he's a good influence to have around the squad, certainly comes across as a very professional player.

marios_moustache · « **Reply #257 on:** June 4, 2016, 12:16:18 am »

Quote from: CraigDS on June 3, 2016, 08:32:37 pm

I imagine he's a good influence to have around the squad, certainly comes across as a very professional player.

He is more than that, really don't think he get s the credit for his technical ability

newrosswaterford · « **Reply #258 on:** June 4, 2016, 12:21:32 am »

Quote from: marios_moustache on June 4, 2016, 12:16:18 am

He is more than that, really don't think he get s the credit for his technical ability

All very Stevie.

Does he get credit for running wild during a European final?

princeoftherocks · « **Reply #259 on:** June 4, 2016, 12:22:47 am »

Quote from: whiteboots on June 3, 2016, 08:31:09 pm

I have known him personally, as an acquaintance on and off for several years. Off the field he is the consummate professional who takes his career very seriously, no wonder he has ben so popular with managers at all his clubs.

"acuaintance"? "on and off"? "several years"?

Come on, whiteboots, spill the beans.

riismeister · « **Reply #260 on:** June 4, 2016, 02:21:29 am »

whiteboots is the man behind the BoringJamesMilner twitter account.

Where and when can I claim my 5£?

keyo · « **Reply #261 on:** June 4, 2016, 02:19:52 pm »

Totally converted on Milner. Was underwhelmed (though not completely negative) when we signed him - a neither here nor there signing I thought - and his initial impact. He worked hard, but I did not think he impacted the game enough. In addition, we had too many players who essentially had a similar lack of impact.

Since Jan/February he has been consistent, excellent work rate, always involved, and his running and ability to get into crossing and shooting positions. And his delivery is excellent. He has not been a revelation, but he has been excellent, showing form that he has shown with city and Leeds in the past. He has been influential, so my initial underwhelmedness (?) was misplaced. Happy if his form continues next season. He is a positive influence too I reckon.

Jimmys Casey · « **Reply #262 on:** June 4, 2016, 05:05:15 pm »

I think most knew he is most effective when played on the right.
Will Klopp buy a top notch centre midfielder? We definitely need more quality in the middle. The final showed this was evident.

Tobelius · « **Reply #263 on:** June 4, 2016, 05:45:44 pm »

Really like James Milner as a player,at times this past season i felt some people laid the blame on him any time when we had a poor result almost like automatically and only grudgingly gave praise when he had a particularly good game.

It's like they had made their mind up on him beforehand or didn't like that he was a 29 year old experienced England international coming on a free transfer from City with a big wage packet.

But watching him closely he always works more on the pitch than almost any other player and has a good end product too(nothing fancy mind), i only wish we had more players like him and would have signed him 10 years ago.

jepovic · « **Reply #264 on:** June 4, 2016, 08:28:22 pm »

Very good winger, better than I hoped for. Decisive, quick and very mobile. He offers something else than our other attacking midfielders with the running and directness. Just like Kuyt did.
Very average central midfielder though. Slow on the turn, average passing and pretty poor defensive awareness for being so experienced.
I was hoping that he would be more of a leader, but he focuses on his own job.

DanA · « **Reply #265 on:** July 14, 2016, 06:49:50 am »

So what's his role going to be this season?

A major reason why I wasn't overly keen on getting him last season was I didn't see a role for him. As it turned out Henderson missed most of the season and Milner largely played DM/CM with mixed results but also was productive at RW. But with Mane coming in, Lallana finishing the season strongly I'm not sure he's needed at RW.

At CM/DM where Milner is weaker I think he struggles to get games. Henderson will return, we've added Grujic and there is talk of a player like Dahoud or Zeilinski coming in. To me that doesn't bode well for him. He reportedly left Man City to become a regular and in particular spend more time in midfield. I suspect things might be worse for him here now than they were at Man City.

Kop 81 · « **Reply #266 on:** July 14, 2016, 08:36:26 am »

Quote from: DanA on July 14, 2016, 06:49:50 am

So what's his role going to be this season?

A major reason why I wasn't overly keen on getting him last season was I didn't see a role for him. As it turned out Henderson missed most of the season and Milner largely played DM/CM with mixed results but also was productive at RW. But with Mane coming in, Lallana finishing the season strongly I'm not sure he's needed at RW.

At CM/DM where Milner is weaker I think he struggles to get games. Henderson will return, we've added Grujic and there is talk of a player like Dahoud or Zeilinski coming in. To me that doesn't bode well for him. He reportedly left Man City to become a regular and in particular spend more time in midfield. I suspect things might be worse for him here now than they were at Man City.

Milner will be a squad player, no? We'll use him for cup games and bring him on if someone gets injured?

Schmidt · « **Reply #267 on:** July 14, 2016, 08:44:37 am »

We haven't exactly been ferocious in our pursuit of a new midfielder so there's a chance he could be a regular alongside Can this season, depending on Henderson's fitness. I don't think that's a good idea but he got plenty of games there last season and that may continue.

DanA · « **Reply #268 on:** July 14, 2016, 08:47:27 am »

Quote from: Kop 81 on July 14, 2016, 08:36:26 am

Milner will be a squad player, no? We'll use him for cup games and bring him on if someone gets injured?

He's either our highest wage earner or 2nd highest and he apparently turned down more money for opportunity to play more at Liverpool. Is he going to be happy with that?

Warks Moustache · « **Reply #269 on:** July 14, 2016, 08:51:34 am »

Quote from: Kop 81 on July 14, 2016, 08:36:26 am

Milner will be a squad player, no? We'll use him for cup games and bring him on if someone gets injured?

I can honestly see him starting. His numbers from out wide are excellent and he is tactically flexible with a load of game intelligence. It's invaluable to have that in your team.

suede lady · « **Reply #270 on:** July 14, 2016, 09:04:16 am »

Quote from: DanA on July 14, 2016, 08:47:27 am

He's either our highest wage earner or 2nd highest and he apparently turned down more money for opportunity to play more at Liverpool. Is he going to be happy with that?

out of interest, who would be the highest earner? Benteke?

Warks Moustache · « **Reply #271 on:** July 14, 2016, 09:05:26 am »

Quote from: suede lady on July 14, 2016, 09:04:16 am

out of interest, who would be the highest earner? Benteke?

Sturridge, with all his add ons

DanA · « **Reply #272 on:** July 14, 2016, 09:10:13 am »

Quote from: suede lady on July 14, 2016, 09:04:16 am

out of interest, who would be the highest earner? Benteke?

Think Benteke is yes

Trump's tiny tiny hands · « **Reply #273 on:** July 14, 2016, 09:58:34 am »

Quote from: Kop 81 on July 14, 2016, 08:36:26 am

Milner will be a squad player, no? We'll use him for cup games and bring him on if someone gets injured?

Milner will play all the big games.

farawayred · « **Reply #274 on:** July 15, 2016, 06:54:25 am »

There will be plenty of games that require grit and determination, someone to provide steel in the middle. He is one of our more consistent players. Other players we have, and the new ones we sign, may play with more guile, but since Gerrard left, there is no one to get stuck in. Hendo does, but he was missing for a long time through injury.

Ken-Obi · « **Reply #275 on:** July 15, 2016, 08:51:13 am »

Milner is getting well underrated in here in favour of the flash players.

DanA · « **Reply #276 on:** July 15, 2016, 08:54:08 am »

Quote from: Sheev-Palpatine on July 15, 2016, 08:51:13 am

Milner is getting well underrated in here in favour of the flash players.

I just don't think he's a starter.

Which one out of Mane, Coutinho or Firmino do you think he starts ahead of?
Or if Midfield Henderson and Can?

I like him as a player, I just don't think he has the starting spot that he sacrificed money to get and I think he's in a battle with Lallana to even be backup up forward and likewise Lucas in midfield. I could see him getting less than 10 starts which is what a backup gets when there are only 45 games or so.

Old No7 · « **Reply #277 on:** July 15, 2016, 09:01:39 am »

Quote from: DanA on July 15, 2016, 08:54:08 am

I just don't think he's a starter.

Which one out of Mane, Coutinho or Firmino do you think he starts ahead of?
Or if Midfield Henderson and Can?

I like him as a player, I just don't think he has the starting spot that he sacrificed money to get and I think he's in a battle with Lallana to even be backup up forward and likewise Lucas in midfield. I could see him getting less than 10 starts which is what a backup gets when there are only 45 games or so.

I expect him to start a lot of the big games especially away from home, probably wide on the right

killer-heels · « **Reply #278 on:** July 15, 2016, 09:04:24 am »

Quote from: DanA on July 15, 2016, 08:54:08 am

I just don't think he's a starter.

Which one out of Mane, Coutinho or Firmino do you think he starts ahead of?
Or if Midfield Henderson and Can?

I like him as a player, I just don't think he has the starting spot that he sacrificed money to get and I think he's in a battle with Lallana to even be backup up forward and likewise Lucas in midfield. I could see him getting less than 10 starts which is what a backup gets when there are only 45 games or so.

I think you will be surprised as to just how many games he does end up starting. I think you will find that at times the likes of Sturridge, Firmino, Mane and Henderson may sit it out for Milner.

LallanaInPyjamas · « **Reply #279 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:24:40 am »

Quote from: DanA on July 15, 2016, 08:54:08 am

I just don't think he's a starter.

Which one out of Mane, Coutinho or Firmino do you think he starts ahead of?
Or if Midfield Henderson and Can?

I like him as a player, I just don't think he has the starting spot that he sacrificed money to get and I think he's in a battle with Lallana to even be backup up forward and likewise Lucas in midfield. I could see him getting less than 10 starts which is what a backup gets when there are only 45 games or so.

Not a chance. He was one of our best players last season, and Klopp chose him in every big game ahead of Lucas and Allen. I would say he's ahead of Henderson in the CM pecking order as things stand as well.

He gives us a great option as an attacking full-back, a central midfielder in a 2 or (preferably) a 3, or a defensive winger. Plenty of starts for him.

I see him and Lallana as the 12th and 13th men. Fantastic squad midfielders who will probably play too well to be dropped at times throughout the season.