Topic: Newcastle - RIP Jamal Khashoggi; Free Salma al-Shehab

[gray19lfc]

Made up for Rafa.  Great to see him with a decent set of supporters behind him again!

[RyanBabel19]

How do people feel they will fare back in the premier league?

[Gerry Attrick]

How do people feel they will fare back in the premier league?

Depends what kind of business they do in the transfer market. Their current squad would struggle mightily and be relegated I reckon but if they get a  number of good players in they can finish midtable.

[BoRed]

How do people feel they will fare back in the premier league?

It's time to reset and reopen the poll.

[kingz]

Think we all know what Rafa will do now.. He will try to get a striker , a player behind the striker, a defensive midfielder, a deep playmaker and two CBs .. He always try to sort the spine first and usually when he spend big on a player he gets it right.. If Newcastle back him in the summer they will do very will ..

[Caligula?]

Think we all know what Rafa will do now.. He will try to get a striker , a player behind the striker, a defensive midfielder, a deep playmaker and two CBs .. He always try to sort the spine first and usually when he spend big on a player he gets it right.. If Newcastle back him in the summer they will do very will ..

Sturridge and Lucas. That's those two positions sorted then. 

[BlackandWhitePaul]

It's time to reset and reopen the poll.

Aye but not now, how about a week before next season kicks off when we know what's what.

[Zeb]

This doesn't look good. (Off twitter, but reliable source)

My understanding is that HM Revenue & Customs are investigating transfer activity at Newcastle United & that Lee Charnley [their Managing Director] has been arrested. A statement is to come from #Nufc. It is also understood that at least one other club is being investigated by HMRC.

George Caulkin, The Times

(West Ham may be the other club - SSN apparently reporting they got raided by police too.)

[Antics]

Oh dear lads

[pyroparty]

Wonder where Rafa's gonna be next season then! 

[Greyfox]

Honestly, you couldn't make this shit up in a novel...you'd be laughed at for taking suspension of belief too far...

[Zeb]

Telegraph has a comment by HMRC:

HMRC say they have arrested "several men working within professional football industry for suspected of income tax and national insurance fraud".

Also confirm that West Ham are the other club.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/04/26/newcastle-managing-director-lee-charnley-arrested-st-james-park/

edit: actually Indie has the full thing:

HMRC say they have arrested "several men working within professional football industry for suspected income tax & national insurance fraud."

"180 HMRC officers have been deployed across the UK and France today. Investigators have searched a number of premises in the North East and South East of England and arrested the men and also seized business records, financial records, computers and mobile phones.

"The French authorities are assisting the UK investigation, have made arrests and several locations have been searched in France.

"This criminal investigation sends a clear message that, whoever you are, if you commit tax fraud you can expect to face the consequences. As this is an ongoing investigation HMRC is unable to provide any further detail at this time."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-and-west-ham-raided-by-hmrc-after-transfers-investigation-a7702521.html

Things that make you go hmmm....

[pyroparty]

I'm finding it hard to believe Mike Ashley cronies and the country's tory worshipping club could get up to anything dodgy regarding money. 

[Banquo's Ghost]

I'm finding it hard to believe Mike Ashley cronies and the country's tory worshipping club could get up to anything dodgy regarding money. 

"I am shocked - shocked - to find that gambling is going on here."

[zero zero]

If you've noticed my avatar thats my 2 lads with rafa at melwood maybe 8-9 Yeats ago , my niece wangled them a visit one morning to watch the team train and get pics and meet the players in the guys office who looked after the foreign players . After meeti g and the pictures they were in the corridor with my niece who knew the tea woman . The tea woman asked if they'd met and had pictures taken with the boss they said no ..next minute he is on his way to a press conference when the tea lady summoned him over to meet them and get some pics , had time for a chat with them and made theres and my day .

Great story. Well in Rafa and welcome back the Toon!

[Garrus]

Better Call Saul.

[Ray K]

Better Call Saul.

They don't need a criminal lawyer. They need a criminal lawyer

[Petadroli]

Is a points deduction on the cards?

[Paully]

FFS man this club!

I suppose it's one way to make Rafa walk due to lack of funds if we're hit with a transfer embargo!

36 hours after we clinched promotion! Ha ha ha!

[Zeb]

Is a points deduction on the cards?

Depends on what has gone on there. HMRC have gone for a criminal investigation, rather than offer a deal, so see where that ends up. If you want parallels, maybe something like happened to Rangers in Scotland would be the worst case for the two clubs. (edit: ie sanctions depending heavily on whether what has happened is perceived to have given a competitive advantage.)

[pyroparty]

West Ham going out of business or being sent to the conference would be beautiful.

[cissesbeard]

West Ham going out of business or being sent to the conference would be beautiful.

that would be awful, after they invested all that money in their new stadium.... oh ye I remember!
haha

[rob1966]

Is a points deduction on the cards?

We've one very unhappy Geordie Project Manager in work, she's fuming like mad. Her son is texting her, she's no idea where he's getting his info, but points deduction and transfer ban on the cards he's telling her, which is just darkening her mood even further.

[paulrazor]

that would be awful, after they invested all that money in their new stadium.... oh ye I remember!
haha

haha good one

[Garrus]

We've one very unhappy Geordie Project Manager in work, she's fuming like mad. Her son is texting her, she's no idea where he's getting his info, but points deduction and transfer ban on the cards he's telling her, which is just darkening her mood even further.

Can't see these proceedings being completed soon.

[dave 5516]

Gotta feel for the fans of both clubs. Not their fault they're owned by repugnant c*nts.

[Redman0151]

Whilst so many in the country are struggling to get by and millions are living off food banks its truly despicable if football clubs are getting around paying tax

Especially west ham who already mugged the tax payer

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

Incredible stuff. Iirc Carr / Newcastle used to have a very strong connection with a football agency in France, who facilitated most / all of their French signings. The report of the investigation mentioning France, north east....what are the odds the dirt's there.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Whilst so many in the country are struggling to get by and millions are living off food banks its truly despicable if football clubs are getting around paying tax

Especially west ham who already mugged the tax payer

Yeah that's a fucking double mugging isn't it. Twats.

[Miltonred]

When Rafa quits over this, does that mean we can stop pretending we care about Newcastle?

[Paully]

Incredible stuff. Iirc Carr / Newcastle used to have a very strong connection with a football agency in France, who facilitated most / all of their French signings. The report of the investigation mentioning France, north east....what are the odds the dirt's there.

I and many other NUFC fans have said it for years about this!

[4pool]

For the Geordies in here:

Would you rather have your automatic promotion taken away and stay in the Championship

Or

Tale a 10 point deduction in the Premier League and risk being relegated again?

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

A bit early for that, 4pool?

Hopefully it settles into something individual focused rather than the whole club, for the sake of their fans.

[4pool]

A bit early for that, 4pool?

Hopefully it settles into something individual focused rather than the whole club, for the sake of their fans.

Probably.

but just asking a hypothetical.

[rob1966]

For the Geordies in here:

Would you rather have your automatic promotion taken away and stay in the Championship

Or

Tale a 10 point deduction in the Premier League and risk being relegated again?[/b]

Seeing as its just under £100 million for finishing bottom, I think that's what the owner will want.

If they are found guilty and deducted points, then I think it should happen this season and auto promotion should be taken away from them.

[Redman0151]

Chelsea been asked for info by HMRC too.

All 3 clubs have done business with Marseille in recent years

[Jimmy Conway]

Seeing as its just under £100 million for finishing bottom, I think that's what the owner will want.

Which, after tax is £100m

[paulrazor]

Which, after tax is £100m

112 if you're harry redknapp

Chelsea been asked for info by HMRC too.

All 3 clubs have done business with Marseille in recent years

this could get interesting

[BlackandWhitePaul]

Have I, or have I not been telling you's for years what a shower of c*nts they are at Newcastle United, huh.

Lee Charnley, I mean, just exactly who is this dickhead?  Before getting the Managing Directors job here at St James' nobody had even heard of him.

Being such an honourable and decent man I wouldn't blame Rafa if he told these c*nts to shove it up their arse.  He has his reputation to think of, why exactly would he want to be associated with these fucking imbeciles?

The day after being promoted to the Premier as well . . . . . as usual Ashley you have played a fucking blinder, you fat useless sack of shit.

[Statto Red]

Can't see there being any points deductions or transfer ban yet, at most it'll be a big fine & or ban for directors if anything is proven.