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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4160 on: April 27, 2024, 03:28:05 pm »
Can't wait to see Howard Webb appear on Sky Sports on Monday night...


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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4161 on: April 27, 2024, 03:34:46 pm »
Good process. Good process
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4162 on: April 27, 2024, 03:34:53 pm »
At best, it's incompetency. These kinds of things can't be happening at this level.

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4163 on: April 27, 2024, 03:36:22 pm »
I watched a stream from the US. Dixon was convinced Taylor told the keeper to go down to bail him out of a mistake

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4164 on: April 27, 2024, 03:36:34 pm »
I missed the game and only saw that clip posted by Rob above. So, the keeper has not been fouled, and it is NOT a free kick? But he throws the ball down because he thinks a free kick has been awarded but is incorrect?

If that's the case then Gakpo would be entitled to score there. What am I missing?

Taylor blows his whistle and ends play before Gakpo can score.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4165 on: April 27, 2024, 03:37:47 pm »
I watched a stream from the US. Dixon was convinced Taylor told the keeper to go down to bail him out of a mistake
Yeah I saw that. That's what it looked like to me too. You wouldn't hear any of them on Sky suggest that.

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4166 on: April 27, 2024, 03:37:59 pm »
I watched a stream from the US. Dixon was convinced Taylor told the keeper to go down to bail him out of a mistake

Same. It was shocking
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4167 on: April 27, 2024, 03:38:02 pm »
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Paqueta on Mac Allister on 6' (no yellow or warning) - https://twitter.com/FutballGiants/status/1784191706667036916 & https://twitter.com/KaysonPapa/status/1784195027297583289






Referee Antony Taylor does not blow his whistle / signal to stop play until Gakpo reaches the ball...


Ref Antony Taylor denies Gakpo chance on 86' (ref pretends he gave a freekick prior to gk... for something?) - https://v.redd.it/bbkg1m47x0xc1 & https://streamin.one/v/f1a6098d

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^ 'Referee clearly waves play on, turns his back on Gakpo and Areola. You be the judge.' - https://twitter.com/MenInBlazers/status/1784217711595200796 (US video; VPN required)






It would seem from this video - that Taylor may have told the West Ham goalie to go down / get on the floor? And it is Taylor himself who then calls the physio onto the pitch:-

(around 44 second in; though the actual VAR-referee micced audio would be welcome... to clear up and clarify any further issues ;))

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4168 on: April 27, 2024, 03:48:56 pm »
Even Areola looked completely confused with it all, gotta push on this but we'll probably do fuck all and what even is the point i suppose, they answer to no one. We even got the blame for one of our players being assaulted by an official!

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4169 on: April 27, 2024, 03:58:44 pm »
At best, it's incompetency. These kinds of things can't be happening at this level.

It doesn't normally happen only when we are playing and especially when we have a manc referee.
But the apologists on here won't have it.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4170 on: April 27, 2024, 03:59:49 pm »
At best, it's incompetency. These kinds of things can't be happening at this level.

Not when it keeps happening
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4171 on: April 27, 2024, 04:00:36 pm »
I watched a stream from the US. Dixon was convinced Taylor told the keeper to go down to bail him out of a mistake

you would think things like that would be investigated but nah
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4172 on: April 27, 2024, 04:04:10 pm »
Yet again another referee "mistake" costs us a goal and points. Not to mind we should have been playing against ten men for most of the match.

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4173 on: April 27, 2024, 04:04:52 pm »
I watched a stream from the US. Dixon was convinced Taylor told the keeper to go down to bail him out of a mistake

Wanted Areola to help him not make a tit of himself.

You could see Taylor telling the keeper to go down and him looking bemused.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4174 on: April 27, 2024, 04:05:21 pm »
Good process. Good process

It really is. The "kid's mistake"-rule was only invented a few weeks ago and it has already been implemented by PGMOL. That's some quick working...

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4175 on: April 27, 2024, 04:05:27 pm »
Don't think I've ever seen a ref decide to call the physios on. It's like he's telling Ariola he's injured. All to cover up for his own mistake.

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4176 on: April 27, 2024, 04:05:50 pm »
That tackle on Mac is not good.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4177 on: April 27, 2024, 04:06:28 pm »
amazing how inexplainable stuff like this always happens against us.

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4178 on: April 27, 2024, 04:06:28 pm »
Can't wait to see Howard Webb appear on Sky Sports on Monday night...



Yorkie is compiling his sarcastic 'You're all knobheads speech now'

Just another 'mistake' that co-incidentally goes against us like Taylor and the Chelsea handball, the Arsenal basketball hands, the Spurs disallowed goal, Jota being sent off for not touching his man, Jones for winning the ball and bouncing off it - something that's happened twenty times since - also the foul on Mac today, the Gravenberch one in the Cup Final, the disallowed goal in the same cup final, Mac getting booted in the chest v City.

I'd list all the time in total we've been fucked up the arse by PGMOL, but it would honestly take too long.

All 'honest mistakes' though - just silly to expect 'mistakes' would sometimes go for us - no, against all the odds, every one fucks us.
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They both went in high, that's factually correct, both tried to play the ball at height.  Doku with his foot, Mac Allister with his chest.

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4179 on: April 27, 2024, 04:06:32 pm »
That tackle on Mac is not good.

Jones got a red card for the same tackle, we've not seen one since, pisses me right off that.

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« Reply #4180 on: April 27, 2024, 04:07:45 pm »
Yet again another referee "mistake" costs us a goal and points. Not to mind we should have been playing against ten men for most of the match.

Yep. The Odegaard handball I don't count as we scored straight after, Spurs we'd have gone 1 up but you can't predict the outcome, but ADFC if we score the pen we win the game and today at 2-3 we win that.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4181 on: April 27, 2024, 04:08:11 pm »
The keeper just had a brain fart, that is no fucking reason for the manc to blow his whistle. I honestly just cannot take anymore of these officials. I’m done with this corrupt game of football.

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« Reply #4182 on: April 27, 2024, 04:09:17 pm »
Don't think I've ever seen a ref decide to call the physios on. It's like he's telling Ariola he's injured. All to cover up for his own mistake.

https://twitter.com/xxM3boyxx/status/1784217394790969507

Areola tells him he is fine and then Taylor physically blocks him from taking the goal kick twice. Unfucking real.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4183 on: April 27, 2024, 04:11:53 pm »
Jones got a red card for the same tackle, we've not seen one since, pisses me right off that.

I do think the PGMOL nobbled any chance we had of the title. Right from early on, things happened that prevented us from getting any kind of lead or grip even before the Spurs game, there were really strange decisions that have only been applied to us.

It’s no surprise the players and Klopp eventually run out of energy, they must see what is obvious to us all. Even though we were shit against Everton, they were being reffed far differently to us.

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« Reply #4184 on: April 27, 2024, 04:13:20 pm »
Areola tells him he is fine and then Taylor physically blocks him from taking the goal kick twice. Unfucking real.

That makes it even crazier, because Taylor is actively wasting our time by ASKING for the physio to come on. They don't even do that for head injuries and quite often it takes them a few seconds to give the signal for the physio to be allowed onto the pitch. It's absolutely insane. What's even worse is that it won't have any consequences.

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« Reply #4185 on: April 27, 2024, 04:15:00 pm »
Yep. The Odegaard handball I don't count as we scored straight after, Spurs we'd have gone 1 up but you can't predict the outcome, but ADFC if we score the pen we win the game and today at 2-3 we win that.

Yes and No.

Odegaard would almost certainly have been booked though for a deliberate handball. He is a volatile little prick with a penchant for telling the Ref to fuck off. He would have been walking a tightrope for the rest of the game. Conceding a penalty would have been a different scenario and atmosphere as well. We could easily have scored a second goal.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4186 on: April 27, 2024, 04:15:02 pm »
Does anyone know where Taylor lives? I want to put a bedsheet on his neighbours fence.
That today is 100% conclusive proof that these fuckers are cheating!

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« Reply #4187 on: April 27, 2024, 04:15:47 pm »
Does anyone know where Taylor lives? I want to put a bedsheet on his neighbours fence.
That today is 100% conclusive proof that these fuckers are cheating!

Ped's spare room.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4188 on: April 27, 2024, 04:17:50 pm »
I guarantee, if Gakpo puts that in the net, we get it with both barrels from all sides for being 'unsportsmanlike'.
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« Reply #4189 on: April 27, 2024, 04:18:27 pm »
Jones got a red card for the same tackle, we've not seen one since, pisses me right off that.

Fernandes in the Cup game was already on a booking when he caught Szobo when he shooting.



That was a straight red that wasn't even given as a 2nd yellow.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4190 on: April 27, 2024, 04:20:11 pm »
Ped's spare room.

In Manchester or the place he has in Abu Dhabi for his couple of days a year consultancy?

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4191 on: April 27, 2024, 04:21:00 pm »
all the dummy banter loving c*nts delighted with whats going on too.

Dumb fucking bastards that follow football nowadays. I hope the whole sports falls apart soon,

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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4192 on: April 27, 2024, 04:39:45 pm »
I do think the PGMOL nobbled any chance we had of the title. Right from early on, things happened that prevented us from getting any kind of lead or grip even before the Spurs game, there were really strange decisions that have only been applied to us.

It’s no surprise the players and Klopp eventually run out of energy, they must see what is obvious to us all. Even though we were shit against Everton, they were being reffed far differently to us.
Then you get that C*nt Martin Atkinson just giving us Manc Refs every week.

We've had Taylor 3 times in our last 8 games, plus Coote Tierney, kavanagh (twice) in those 9 games.

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« Reply #4193 on: April 27, 2024, 04:43:04 pm »
I do think the PGMOL nobbled any chance we had of the title. Right from early on, things happened that prevented us from getting any kind of lead or grip even before the Spurs game, there were really strange decisions that have only been applied to us.

It’s no surprise the players and Klopp eventually run out of energy, they must see what is obvious to us all. Even though we were shit against Everton, they were being reffed far differently to us.

It started with game 1 of the season.

Mancunian Antony Taylor didn't give the very, very obvious penalty for the handball.
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« Reply #4194 on: April 27, 2024, 04:43:37 pm »
In Manchester or the place he has in Abu Dhabi for his couple of days a year consultancy?

Consultancy=where him and Martin Samuel are getting pegged and shit on by brasses.

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« Reply #4195 on: April 27, 2024, 04:44:27 pm »
"Playing advantage" is now the reason..Gaslighting c*nts

If he played the advantage and then said it didn’t occur, the play would have restarted with a free kick after he stopped Gakpo scoring. He didn’t, he stopped Gakpo scoring for a non existent injury, that he created to save his and the keepers blushes. It’s a major error and possible cheating and Taylor should be investigated.
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Re: The corruption fallacy - they’re all out to get us!
« Reply #4196 on: April 27, 2024, 04:44:52 pm »
Yes and No.

Odegaard would almost certainly have been booked though for a deliberate handball. He is a volatile little prick with a penchant for telling the Ref to fuck off. He would have been walking a tightrope for the rest of the game. Conceding a penalty would have been a different scenario and atmosphere as well. We could easily have scored a second goal.

‘Could well have’ isn’t the guaranteed 3 points that people make it out to be though.

It was a fucking stupid decision and they deserve both barrels for it, it’s a denial of an opportunity to us and we’ve every right to be annoyed by it but it always irks me when people add up imaginary points based on hypotheticals - the valid point is that a fucking stupid mistake has led to a loss of an opportunity , not that of the mistake had not been made that we’d definitely have won.

Even the Doku one would have meant Mac Allister would have had to actually score it which is far from a given in that kind of envroonment, although obviously you’d back him to do so.

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« Reply #4197 on: April 27, 2024, 04:45:50 pm »
Consultancy=where him and Martin Samuel are getting pegged and shit on by brasses.

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« Reply #4198 on: April 27, 2024, 04:46:24 pm »
This is what happens in every institution led by a small number of people accountable to no one.

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« Reply #4199 on: April 27, 2024, 04:46:33 pm »
If he played the advantage and then said it didn’t occur, the play would have restarted with a free kick after he stopped Gakpo scoring. He didn’t, he stopped Gakpo scoring for a non existent injury, that he created to save his and the keepers blushes. It’s a major error and possible cheating and Taylor should be investigated.

It is match-fixing.

Imagine if you had a bet on that game. If a sportsman did that you would be looking at betting patterns. Taylor does it and it is barely worth mentioning.
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