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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Last post by darragh85 on Today at 12:49:31 pm »
It really flew by didn't it.

It's upsetting that we didn't pick up another league title. Great we won one but we were denied the celebrations we deserved. Sad really.
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Former LFC Players / Re: Thank you Carra!
« Last post by Dim Glas on Today at 12:49:27 pm »
Not like he's that popular anyway. Who's he meant to appeal to? Evertonians despise him (even though he is one). Mancs naturally hate him. Most other fans don't like him automatically because he's Scouse (and a heavy accent as well) and played for Liverpool all his career. Even with a lot of Liverpool fans he's not well liked. They wouldn't have got much pushback if they let him go.

Really, he's only there as a foil for Neville and someone for Neville to bounce off.

that’s probably a big part of why.

Sky (as a lot of football media) thrive on banter and engagement - and the biggest engagement always comes form negativity and controversy.  Carragher being pretty much universally disliked and genuinley a truly irritating character who loves to shit-stir fits the brand perfectly. He along with Neville have an incredible social media following and engage constantly on those platforms, and it all comes back to Sky.  He’s a professional wind-up merchant.
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https://twitter.com/malte16986400/status/1787194536948600868

Be interested to hear the VAR from this incident. Clearly handball by Romero.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Last post by clinical on Today at 12:46:33 pm »
His greatest strength was also his Achilles heel - his loyalty to his squad. Some of this current should have been gone 2-3 seasons ago. It’s a great trait, loyalty, but it can muddy the waters of what’s best for the squad and its progression.

It's why he's probably perfect person for the first 5 years. He should take a few years out then come back to us and start the journey again. When he makes that bond with the players that wins him stuff he finds it hard to get rid. Totally get it.
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This plays into my issue with the Head Coach title for Slot. Not sure I'm a fan of the stats guys making decisions on selling players. I'm sure they've done their due diligence on sounding out potential replacements but it does feel like Nunez and his agent may have been told he can look for a new club by the higher ups.

Why do you say that? Genuine question. Is it something that’s cropping up on social media? I’m not on there so do miss these stories sometimes.
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General Football and Sport / Re: Everton - The 777 Unflushables
« Last post by Son of Spion on Today at 12:45:30 pm »
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It's bizarre how the Bitters aren't out marching down the streets pre-match, protesting about this potential takeover. They may be in the frying pan now, but if these somehow get the green light, then they'll be in the fires of hell. Despite that, it's radio silence from their fans. 🙃
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This plays into my issue with the Head Coach title for Slot. Not sure I'm a fan of the stats guys making decisions on selling players. I'm sure they've done their due diligence on sounding out potential replacements but it does feel like Nunez and his agent may have been told he can look for a new club by the higher ups.

Yeah, it's an interesting one. Don't really have a problem with them identifying players to bring in but selling them before the new manager has any sort of say? Don't really think that's the right thing to do.

I feel like Edwards will definitely have considered moving him on even if he doesn't. Thing is, next season, everyone being fit and potentially new players coming in, I have a feeling more often than not he'll be on the bench. So if anything, unless he scores some really important goals or is outstanding from off the bench and scoring when he does start, his value will go down even more. I do think he could be a good option for a lot of sides, Atletico Madrid for example as someone else has already said. He's 25 soon which is a good age, got experience of playing top level football and being a decent goal scorer. I'd like us to keep him myself but if they roll the dice and decide to replace him with someone else I can't say I don't see the thinking behind it. I don't think in one of the top few leagues he'll ever get the goals you really command of a side with big aspirations in every tournament. There's obvious exceptions like Firmino but of course he was much more than his tally at the end of the season.

Gyokeres would be a good shout as Baggio says, looks like a nightmare to play against with composure in front of goal to boot. That's a really key element of course having watched Nunez these past couple of years. Of course, he's only really done it at the same level Nunez did for Benfica but he has a lot about him and just looks the type who'll do very well as he goes into his best years.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Jürgen Klopp
« Last post by Fromola on Today at 12:43:54 pm »
Yes me too, but we could have done with Milner who he also didn’t want to leave in that dressing room for the run in.

I think we'd have renewed Milner had we known Henderson and/or Fabinho were going (added to Thiago playing 5 minutes all season). As it was the midfield needed younger legs and those two unexpectedly left. After the shitshow of last season we couldn't just keep Milner, Thiago, Henderson and Fabinho all on top wages with fading legs - while also financing a rebuild.  Milner would have got a reduction but even so. The issue was Thiago being injured all season and Henderson and Fabinho going. It left us with only Endo as a senior pro and he'd never played in European competition before.

The error was never letting Wijnaldum go, it was not replacing him. He's done nothing since 2020 anyway and we couldn't just let everyone get old together.

I don't think it's always as simple as Klopp being too loyal, he knows how tightfisted we are at spending money. Maybe he wanted to keep Wijnaldum because he knew he wouldn't get the money needed to replace him.
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Just watched MOTD2 for our game. Commentator said Brooks on VAR said Gakpo pen wasn't given as "a very exaggerated fall that was out of sync with the standing foot".

Watching it now and heard that. What a bizarre thing to say considering some of the soft penalties that are being handed out. And Brooks probably has given his fair share. That's a penalty all day long. Forget whether it was an exaggerated fall or not thats not a reason to not give it. It's a foul
If that kind of tackle isn't a penalty fine, fair enough. Then its not a penalty in other games, the problem is we all know it will be. Bruno Fernandes exaggerates every tackle against him, so they're not fouls now then right ? Christ almights refereeing a game can't be that hard.
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General Football and Sport / Re: Arsenal: Top of the divers league
« Last post by Dougle on Today at 12:39:57 pm »
I think Arsenal will do it.

Fulham and Spurs away. I think City trip up in one of those fixtures.

Good luck to them if they do. Fuck City. Cheating fucking bastards.

Ah boyo. I remember too many seasons thinking the same thing when it came to us battling them. They never did tho'. Mind you it will happen sometime I suppose. Well done to Arsenal for pushing it all the way. I didn't see us falling apart so suddenly and as a result I'm a bit numb to the whole "who's gonna win it thing". I genuinely thought we would, despite seeing all the reasons we didn't. In any case this really is Liverpool. It's Shakespearian and there is always a twist in the tale.
Now we're out of it it's less Shakespeare and more a techno 24-hour dance and dive off in the dark, with human robots on speed. Last man standing turn the lights back on.....
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