Topic: Brazilian Porn Review Topic (Warning: may contain Wijnaldum)

[Severely]

Fast becoming one of my favourite players. He's just so adept at maneuvering out of trouble and all of a sudden, we've got a counter-attack on our hands. He's the Gundogan of our midfield and he's rapidly proving anyone who says he can easily be upgraded on so, so wrong.

[Fabulous_aurelio]

A very intelligent player. Really has become an integral part of our team. I love to watch him play.

Plays with equal parts brain & heart!

Ill be the first to admit I was truly underwhelmed when he signed. More fool me.

[wemmick]

Quiet game today, but his hold-up play at the end was worth its weight in gold.

[Fromola]

Fast becoming one of my favourite players. He's just so adept at maneuvering out of trouble and all of a sudden, we've got a counter-attack on our hands. He's the Gundogan of our midfield and he's rapidly proving anyone who says he can easily be upgraded on so, so wrong.

He's the midfield Sakho.

[Dim Glas]

Quiet game today, but his hold-up play at the end was worth its weight in gold.

he had a really good game today.

[Zlen]

He's the midfield Sakho.

Oh please, just no.

[Macphisto80]

Quiet game today, but his hold-up play at the end was worth its weight in gold.

He's the most intelligent midfielder we have.

[pyroparty]

That was a Hamannesque final minute or so of stoppage time! Hopefully Wij doesn't turn in to a social media beaut when he's retired tho!

[Weytske]

Quiet game today, but his hold-up play at the end was worth its weight in gold.

Didn't Klopp say a couple of games a go that when we're in a lead we should keep the ball beter and dominate possession? Loved how Gini took care of that all by himself!

[Hoenheim]

Ran his ass off today, and I was so glad he was on the ball at the end when he held it instead of aimlessly kicking it forward trying something stupid.

[NaivetyinBlack]

Game after game, he shows why he is the most space aware, intelligent and important midfielder we have. You want to keep hold of the ball, give it to him. Same goes with his opening of channels to pass into. Looks like he's always far away from his marker when he takes a touch on the ball.

Great stuff.

[gazzam1963]

I've enjoyed watching him all season and even early on his style of running reminded me of John Barnes and know after watching him all season he actually plays like him towards the end of his career . Very skilful and strong on the ball , cant be knocked off easily and has really good distribution frnhis next pass .

[simbo]

Last week he should he has a 50 yard pass in him, my only criticism is I want him to do that more often even if it's only a diagonal cross field pass, to much side foot passing from him


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[wemmick]

Just to be clear, fellas, I didn't mean "quiet game" as a criticism of Gini. Just implying the game bypassed him a bit because of WBA's style of play. I think Gini contributed well where he could.

[JackWard33]

Just to be clear, fellas, I didn't mean "quiet game" as a criticism of Gini. Just implying the game bypassed him a bit because of WBA's style of play. I think Gini contributed well where he could.

It's his standard game. Nice to watch, technically good, doesn't waste possession but equally doesn't affect the game with the ball

[Tony19:6]

Invisible yet again, Hopefully an upgrade will arrive in the summer

[Dim Glas]

Invisible yet again, Hopefully an upgrade will arrive in the summer

At least now I know you are on a wind up 

[Gods_Left_Boot]

At least now I know you are on a wind up 

Beyond a parody at this point 

[Mighty Zeus]

I've enjoyed watching him all season and even early on his style of running reminded me of John Barnes

Yes he really does have something about John Barnes about him, kind of in his balance, or something like that.

[Tony19:6]

At least now I know you are on a wind up 

Not really just have higher standards than you.

[Dim Glas]

Not really just have higher standards than you.

All you are showing Tony, and this is the last I'll engage with you on this thread, is that you can't recognise a player's talent and ability, and what he brings to a team. And that relfects poorly on you. You'd be better off keeping quiet, rather than admit that you don't actually understand football, which is all you are doing here.

I'm no expert, but I can see plain as day how good a footballer Gini Wijnaldum is, and how better a team Liverpool are this season with him.

[theMilkman]

Invisible yet again, Hopefully an upgrade will arrive in the summer

Ummmm what? I was sure that was a joke at first

[Tony19:6]

Wow how patronising?

As I cant recognise a players talent please explain to me in words of one syllable so Ill understand what exactly he brings to the team ?

And wont comment on the fact that you admit youre no expert 😉

Look lad Im deadly serious when I say I dont know how this guy enhances us which another for far less money (and its an issue for us) provides.

Totally underwhelmed.

[Fitzy.]

Wow how patronising?

As I cant recognise a players talent please explain to me in words of one syllable so Ill understand what exactly he brings to the team ?

Front foot: very good at the quick transitions that this team thrives on - gets the ball moving quickly
Athleticism and fitness: he's a tremendous athlete who gets around very quickly
Technically strong: he can manipulate the ball very deftly in tight areas and shifts the ball really well when needed
Retention of the ball: he's very reliable on the ball and finds his man
Strength: is excellent in the battle - wins tussles all over the pitch and wins it back
Protects teammates: he has been instrumental in helping Can to improve by offering protection and filling in gaps
Goals and assists from midfield: has scored and created enough goals for a player who has to do a lot of heavy lifting in defensive areas

He's not perfect, but all these things are what makes him a Klopp favourite and why fans see such a good player.

[SerbianScouser]

Front foot: very good at the quick transitions that this team thrives on - gets the ball moving quickly
Athleticism and fitness: he's a tremendous athlete who gets around very quickly
Technically strong: he can manipulate the ball very deftly in tight areas and shifts the ball really well when needed
Retention of the ball: he's very reliable on the ball and finds his man
Strength: is excellent in the battle - wins tussles all over the pitch and wins it back
Protects teammates: he has been instrumental in helping Can to improve by offering protection and filling in gaps
Goals and assists from midfield: has scored and created enough goals for a player who has to do a lot of heavy lifting in defensive areas

BOOM!

[Reese]

So we got Tony in the Gini thread and MBE in the Firmino thread? 

[Tony19:6]

Front foot: very good at the quick transitions that this team thrives on - gets the ball moving quickly
Athleticism and fitness: he's a tremendous athlete who gets around very quickly
Technically strong: he can manipulate the ball very deftly in tight areas and shifts the ball really well when needed
Retention of the ball: he's very reliable on the ball and finds his man
Strength: is excellent in the battle - wins tussles all over the pitch and wins it back
Protects teammates: he has been instrumental in helping Can to improve by offering protection and filling in gaps
Goals and assists from midfield: has scored and created enough goals for a player who has to do a lot of heavy lifting in defensive areas

He's not perfect, but all these things are what makes him a Klopp favourite and why fans see such a good player.

Thanks Fitzy its actually nice for someone to post what they see about this guy which is far from what I do.
But what do I know Ive only been watching the likes of Gerrard, Souness, Mcmahon,Whelan, Alonso,Molby, Mascherano (oh and John Barnes as someone bizarelly mentioned) and many more over the last 40 years or so, maybe Im expecting too much...

[Fitzy.]

Thanks Fitzy its actually nice for someone to post what they see about this guy which is far from what I do.
But what do I know Ive only been watching the likes of Gerrard, Souness, Mcmahon,Whelan, Alonso,Molby, Mascherano (oh and John Barnes as someone bizarelly mentioned) and many more over the last 40 years or so, maybe Im expecting too much...

Whether he lives up to some of our really strong past players is yet to be known, but as a first season he's been really impressive especially as he has such a difficult job to do. His fitness is probably as good as any of those mentioned. I don't expect Klopp, who knows a good player, will consider replacing him.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Front foot: very good at the quick transitions that this team thrives on - gets the ball moving quickly
Athleticism and fitness: he's a tremendous athlete who gets around very quickly
Technically strong: he can manipulate the ball very deftly in tight areas and shifts the ball really well when needed
Retention of the ball: he's very reliable on the ball and finds his man
Strength: is excellent in the battle - wins tussles all over the pitch and wins it back
Protects teammates: he has been instrumental in helping Can to improve by offering protection and filling in gaps
Goals and assists from midfield: has scored and created enough goals for a player who has to do a lot of heavy lifting in defensive areas

He's not perfect, but all these things are what makes him a Klopp favourite and why fans see such a good player.

5 goals and 7 assists, he's the 2nd most productive midfielder in the country [behind Lallana] just to add to your well said post

[Tony19:6]

Whether he lives up to some of our really strong past players is yet to be known, but as a first season he's been really impressive especially as he has such a difficult job to do. His fitness is probably as good as any of those mentioned. I don't expect Klopp, who knows a good player, will consider replacing him.

Thanks Fitzy, I see his stats which on the face of it look good, but I think his overall play is actually very underwhelming.
As examples he's not great in the air, he's not particularly imposing (see Tottenhams kids in the League Cup as an example of how he was bullied). Cant recall too often he takes a man on and beats him. He's not particularly a good tackler.
He has a good passing % but its primarily short, he hardly ever takes a risk.
Now it is his 1st season and yes he's quite clearly in his comfort zone but if he is to remain in the first XI next season I want to see a massive improvement.
I dunno maybe I expect too much,  but I just want us to win the league
Anyhow great 3 pts today, another step...

[Keita Success]

I think he's absolutely boss, but that he had one of his less effective games for us. Seems to come into his own when the pressure's on us - he was much better in the last ten - but when it's us that's trying to create, he needs to be a bit more adventurous.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Thanks Fitzy, I see his stats which on the face of it look good, but I think his overall play is actually very underwhelming.
As examples he's not great in the air, he's not particularly imposing (see Tottenhams kids in the League Cup as an example of how he was bullied). Cant recall too often he takes a man on and beats him. He's not particularly a good tackler.
He has a good passing % but its primarily short, he hardly ever takes a risk.
Now it is his 1st season and yes he's quite clearly in his comfort zone but if he is to remain in the first XI next season I want to see a massive improvement.
I dunno maybe I expect too much,  but I just want us to win the league
Anyhow great 3 pts today, another step...

He has 7 assists from midfield, how does he manage to do so without taking a risk? If you look through highlights you will see that he has football IQ in and around the box, and has an eye for a pass, link up play, hence the number of assists.

I don't know how someone doesn't take a risk and get that many assists from midfield

[NaivetyinBlack]

It can't be just that Tony doesn't 'see' it. Fans have blind spots I guess. Bullied against Spurs kids ? Right 

Also, the 'underwhelming' things that you posted Tony, like you know, a good % of passing but less risk taking ? They make mids like Busquets the best in world.

Anyway, I think he'll finish the season with double figures in assists and about 7 goals. Which would be absolutely spectacular for his first season with us.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

It can't be just that Tony doesn't 'see' it. Fans have blind spots I guess. Bullied against Spurs kids ? Right 

Also, the 'underwhelming' things that you posted Tony, like you know, a good % of passing but less risk taking ? They make mids like Busquets the best in world.

Anyway, I think he'll finish the season with double figures in assists and about 7 goals. Which would be absolutely spectacular for his first season with us.

It would be good for any season, regardless of it being first or second or 57th, not a lot of midfielders around with that kind of production and we have several of them.

[SerbianScouser]

Also, the 'underwhelming' things that you posted Tony, like you know, a good % of passing but less risk taking ?

It's football ignorance at it's finest. He's not making those passes at the back with two CBs , he's receiving passes in the congested middle third and still retains it like boss. He can do that all day and it's those short passes in the middle third is how you actually dominate the ball in games and it's why only City sees more of the ball this year in the league.

People who take for granted how much this teams dominates the ball in this league would be surprised how rarely if ever we had as much possession in recent times compared to this season.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

I was delighted when we signed him and he's been a good buy thus far, he has areas to improve, but he's young and he's working with one of the best coaches in football.

[Tony19:6]

It can't be just that Tony doesn't 'see' it. Fans have blind spots I guess. Bullied against Spurs kids ? Right 

Also, the 'underwhelming' things that you posted Tony, like you know, a good % of passing but less risk taking ? They make mids like Busquets the best in world.

Anyway, I think he'll finish the season with double figures in assists and about 7 goals. Which would be absolutely spectacular for his first season with us.

Sorry bud but if youre comparing this guy to Busquets, then its delusional in the extreme.

I could throw in his frequent  fuck ups against Leicester, Bournemouth and Stoke to counter the assist/ goal ratio which is admittedly good.

 My point is and has always been he's just not that influential otherwise.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Sorry bud but if youre comparing this guy to Busquets, then its delusional in the extreme.

I could throw in his frequent  fuck ups against Leicester, Bournemouth and Stoke to counter the assist/ goal ratio which is admittedly good.

 My point is and has always been he's just not that influential otherwise.

He's contributed to 12 goals, so him not being that influential is weird. You pointed out he doesn't take risks, his assists say so otherwise, for a player in midfield, that is a good return. he's not a number 10 to be taking risks every time on the ball, but he does take them, when he thinks the moment is appropriate.

He's got good ball retention, and game inteligence, he's made mistakes, nobody is denying that, but that doesn't defy him as a player [Gerrard assist to Henry,Drogba, I'm not comparing the two but I'm giving you an example of a gaff]

He understands pass and move and is a good link up player in the final third.

[Johnnyboy1973]

My point is and has always been he's just not that influential otherwise.

Bet, you were delighted at the end though when he got hold of the ball, did a couple of pirouettes and refused to give the ball to the hapless Moreno.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

I think he's absolutely boss, but that he had one of his less effective games for us. Seems to come into his own when the pressure's on us - he was much better in the last ten - but when it's us that's trying to create, he needs to be a bit more adventurous.

I agree with this, although I think he's just a good player rather than absolutely boss.

One thing he needs to sharpen up on is defending on the edge/just outside our area. He's still not alert enough for my liking and he struggles clearing the ball quite a lot