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[smutchin]

Endo's the kind of guy who would make a great manager.

But has he been through any adversity?

If he has, then sod Alonso - get Wataru in as player-manager next season.

[jepovic]

Had a very good game again IMO. Our best player together with VVD

[Upanishad]

Only lyrics that needs are ‘Endo, Eh-Endo/our-endo”

No - only needs:

Endo, Wataru
Endo, Wataru


In Japan, people often use their surname first.

[Clayton Bigsby]

Feel he could have taken a yellow to stop the counter but then on reflection the counter was too quick

[spider-neil]

Feel he could have taken a yellow to stop the counter but then on reflection the counter was too quick

Elliott should have rugby tackled the ball carrier to stop the counter. You even take a red in that instance because it's doubtful he was one of the penalty takers.

[RainbowFlick]

can we remember to pronounce his name right if we're going with that song

[Bobinhood]

Waturu Endo wears a mouthguard.

Damn it we need some football soon. 

[fridgepants]

He has two books out in Japan - sadly Japanese language only, so I'd have to Google Translate them page by page.

[jepovic]

Another good game from him. Stopped lots of attacks

[BarryCrocker]

What a player. Alexis excels with him in support.

[MonsLibpool]

Wow!

[Knight]

He never seems takes the ball off the CBS and moves up the pitch with the ball. Makes him very reliable - he’s never going to get his pocket picked. But it also means we make harder work of progressing the ball than we perhaps might.

[SerbianScouser]

What a player. Alexis excels with him in support.

Yup. No coincidence Alexis goes up a level since Endo got back from his tournament.

[farawayred]

I can't believe Klopp had to answer a while back whether Endo and Macca can play together... Boss player.

[Redley]

He never seems takes the ball off the CBS and moves up the pitch with the ball. Makes him very reliable - he’s never going to get his pocket picked. But it also means we make harder work of progressing the ball than we perhaps might.

Crazy to criticise him after that You’ve done it in a few threads, boom straight in there. Fair play.

[JP!]

Whether we win anything else or not its pretty clear the mingebags on here were flat wrong about Endo

[elkun]

Love him.

[Bob Sacamano]

He never seems takes the ball off the CBS and moves up the pitch with the ball. Makes him very reliable - he’s never going to get his pocket picked. But it also means we make harder work of progressing the ball than we perhaps might.

I actually feel like he gets his pocket picked quite frequently for being a 6. Happened more earlier in the season, so maybe he just needed to adjust to the pace of the game.

[wemmick]

He never seems takes the ball off the CBS and moves up the pitch with the ball. Makes him very reliable - he’s never going to get his pocket picked. But it also means we make harder work of progressing the ball than we perhaps might.

But he also draws a marker to make space for the CBs to find Macca. I think bypassing Endo is part of our set up. Klopp wants the CBs to find Macca as much as possible. They are always looking for him.

[Eeyore]

Neat and tidy in possession but just not quick enough against counterattacks. Just ends up with players running off him. Doing a good job but we need a six with more pace against the counter.

[Knight]

Crazy to criticise him after that You’ve done it in a few threads, boom straight in there. Fair play.

2. And I’ve been very positive about players 2 others. And my comment on Endo was more of a discussion point than criticism. There are clearly benefits to not getting your pocket picked. Good to see your keeping track mind. Ironically you criticised most of our players in the process of picking up on one of my other posts.

[SamLad]

Another good game from him. Stopped lots of attacks

he was excellent, as usual.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Neat and tidy in possession but just not quick enough against counterattacks. Just ends up with players running off him. Doing a good job but we need a six with more pace against the counter.

Al you've got such a vendetta against Endo that you've created this thing in your mind whereby every chance we concede is because of him. No 6 in the history of football can cover the whole pitch and stop all midfield runners, especially against Brighton, and especially when part of his role is to actually at times press high up the pitch.

Now of course Endo would be a better player if he was faster. But he's doing a fucking great job regardless, and that great job extends much, much further than him being "neat and tidy in possession".

[Eeyore]

Al you've got such a vendetta against Endo that you've created this thing in your mind whereby every chance we concede is because of him. No 6 in the history of football can cover the whole pitch and stop all midfield runners, especially against Brighton, and especially when part of his role is to actually at times press high up the pitch.

Now of course Endo would be a better player if he was faster. But he's doing a fucking great job regardless, and that great job extends much, much further than him being "neat and tidy in possession".

It isn't about covering the whole pitch. It is about his man running off the back of him because he isn't quick enough. It happens multiple times in each game. Their goal would be an example he is running back but as soon as the Brighton player sprints Endo can't match him. The same thing happened in the 2nd half when Wellbeck ran away from him and got his shot off.

It happened in the United game. It is a weakness in his game. You can ignore it if you want but it is there. Endo has done a great job for us and has been vital in us being top of the League.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Their goal would be an example he is running back but as soon as the Brighton player sprints Endo can't match him.

Thank you for proving my point. For their goal, Endo is tracking Pascal Gross stride for stride until he reaches our back line, at which point he passes him on / let's him get himself into an offside position. At no point is Gross involved in their build-up or goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW3VY7DccqM

[Eeyore]

Thank you for proving my point. For their goal, Endo is tracking Pascal Gross stride for stride until he reaches our back line, at which point he passes him on / let's him get himself into an offside position. At no point is Gross involved in their build-up or goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW3VY7DccqM

Passing him on to who?

Macca isn't getting back and Quansah goes to the ball and Gross ends up in 5 yards of space.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Passing him on to who?

Macca isn't getting back and Quansah goes to the ball and Gross ends up in 5 yards of space offside.

[Drinks Sangria]

He looked knackered today but was still a presence and played well.

Positionally he wasn’t his usual self but I chalk that up to Brighton being quite clever with how they positioned the midfield during counter attacks, coupled with our bad decision making on the edge of their area in the second half.

Played well.

[Lemieux]

I understand the criticism, but the team works much better with Macca with Endo than Macca without Endo.  No one else can fill this role well enough to take him out of the side.

[Eeyore]

Van Dijk is playing him on because Quansah has had to come out and face up Adingra.



Endo hasn't done anything. He hasn't come across to face up Adingra and he has let Gross go. Quansah ends up 2v1 against both Adingra and Gross. Just because the pass doesn't come it doesn't mean it wasn't poor play by Endo.

[Eeyore]

I understand the criticism, but the team works much better with Macca with Endo than Macca without Endo.  No one else can fill this role well enough to take him out of the side.

In possession yes. However, as the first goal showed both Macca and Endo lack recovery pace.

[Kalito]

Boss player. Brilliant!

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Van Dijk is playing him on because Quansah has had to come out and face up Adingra.



Endo hasn't done anything. He hasn't come across to face up Adingra and he has let Gross go. Quansah ends up 2v1 against both Adingra and Gross. Just because the pass doesn't come it doesn't mean it wasn't poor play by Endo.

Just embarrassing, as per.

You've taken a screenshot at a millisecond where a through ball would have put Gross in without him being tracked by Endo or offside. Only issue with this is that Adringa clearly isn't about to pass the ball.

In real time, Endo is tracking Gross perfectly well, and then makes a decision to stop as he see Gross is running to the defenders and then following that, offside.

How you can proportion any blame to him for the goal when neither he nor the man he was marking were in anyway involved is just ridiculous. True to form though I guess.

[WestieRed]

He’s had a solid game today for me. Mopped up a lot and broke up moves, but most importantly freed up the best player on the pitch to do his thing. He’s an important part of why we are 2 points clear at the top at Easter - yahooo!

[Eeyore]

Just embarrassing, as per.

You've taken a screenshot at a millisecond where a through ball would have put Gross in without him being tracked by Endo or offside. Only issue with this is that Adringa clearly isn't about to pass the ball.

In real time, Endo is tracking Gross perfectly well, and then makes a decision to stop as he see Gross is running to the defenders and then following that, offside.

How you can proportion any blame to him for the goal when neither he nor the man he was marking were in anyway involved is just ridiculous. True to form though I guess.

You are tying yourself up in knots there mate. I haven't blamed Endo for the goal. I am blaming him for letting Gross go and leaving Quansah 2v1 against Adingra and Gross. At first you said Endo passed him on to Quansah. How can you pass a player on to someone who has to go to the ball?

As a defensive midfield player you can't let your man go and hope the pass doesn't come and hope that the attacker ends up offside. As I said it isn't an isolated incident Wellbeck ran away from him in the second half. It is a weakness in his game and is exacerbated by Macca not being the quickest either. They complement each other in possession but create issues during transitions.

[jepovic]

Recovery pace is so overrated. Reading the game is 100 times more important for a DM.
Look at Fabinho, Rodri, Busquets, Rice...

[Knight]

Recovery pace is so overrated. Reading the game is 100 times more important for a DM.
Look at Fabinho, Rodri, Busquets, Rice...

All these players could cover a lot of ground pretty quickly at their peak.

[Eeyore]

Recovery pace is so overrated. Reading the game is 100 times more important for a DM.
Look at Fabinho, Rodri, Busquets, Rice...

Rice is really athletic. Then the other teams have coping mechanisms. With Fabinho we had Henderson and Wijnaldum who added real athleticism. City use the searing pace of Walker to cover for Rodri and Barca used a really mobile centreback pushing into midfield like a Puyol or Mascherano.

We have a number of players who don't have great pace in midfield. For me, Macca and Endo aren't great off the ball during transitions. Throw in Elliott at times and we have issues. Brighton really targeted our right hand side in the first half.

[jepovic]

You need pace when youre in the wrong place. Being in the right place is much better.

Its the same with sliding tackles. Its a sign of weakness, not strength, when you have to go to ground. But fans sure love a sprint and a desperate slide.

VVD is fast, but he hardly ever needs it. And he very seldom goes for a sliding tackle.

[Eeyore]

You need pace when youre in the wrong place. Being in the right place is much better.

Its the same with sliding tackles. Its a sign of weakness, not strength, when you have to go to ground. But fans sure love a sprint and a desperate slide.

VVD is fast, but he hardly ever needs it. And he very seldom goes for a sliding tackle.

The issue though is that for a six he ends up ahead of the ball too often and then can't recover. It happened in the United game over and over again.