Topic: Jürgen Klopp

[macmanamanaman]

And yet we politely accept an apology from the linesman for elbowing Robertson and he faces no further action.

I think LFC should write on their website:

"We accept the dugout ban and fine.

In totally unrelated news, the lfc officials and team will not be using the dugout. They all deeply respect the pgmol. All the activity in the game will happen on the touchline, away from the dugout. Jurgen Klopp, supporting and respecting the dugout ban, will not set foot in the dugout. Neither will anyone else.
Anyway, whats for lunch?
"

[Ghost Town]

Unfortunate, but could see it coming. The 2 games we need maximum points and Bobby's farewell.

No surprised from the FA.

It's only one game; the other is suspended

[Fromola]

Is he at least allowed pitchside after the game?

[Chakan]

It's only one game; the other is suspended

So just the last home game of the season?

[macmanamanaman]

Next time Tierney is appointed as a ref at Anfield, the club should set up a surprise pre game award ceremony and call Tierney to present him with an award.
A cheque for £75000 and a signed voucher from Klopp that he will not enter the dugout. Then Klopp to say into the mic "I have a problem with you. There. Said it and Already paid for it. Boom!
See you next game, twat. Bye"

[oojason]

'FA release what referee Paul Tierney said to Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp following touchline ban':-

Jurgen Klopp has been handed a two-game touchline ban and £75,000 fine for his media comments about referee Paul Tierney after Liverpool's 4-3 victory over Tottenham Hotspur

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fa-release-what-referee-paul-26943524?



a snippet...


'The FA have revealed what referee Paul Tierney said to Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp when booking the German during the Reds’ 4-3 victory over Tottenham Hotspur earlier this month.

Klopp was handed a yellow card by the official after celebrating Diogo Jota’s late winner in the face of fourth official, John Brooks. Meanwhile, the Liverpool boss would later repeatedly criticise Tierney and accuse him of being biased against the Reds when speaking in his post-match interviews, while also insisting that what the referee said “to me when he gave me the yellow card is not okay."

Having admitted improper conduct, Klopp has been fined £75,000 and suspended from the touchline for two matches, with the second match suspended until the end of the next season on the condition that he does not commit any further breaches of FA Rule E3 in the meantime, as punishment for his media comments.

An independent Regulatory Commission imposed these sanctions following a hearing. And in their written reasons, they included a transcription of what Tierney, who was mic’d up, said to Klopp when showing him a yellow card.


Their report states: ‘Mr Brooks contacted Mr Tierney and said: “Jurgen Klopp has just run and celebrated in my face. I think it’s a yellow card mate, minimum.”

‘It is clear that Mr Brooks considered Mr Klopp’s conduct to be misplaced celebration rather than an aggressive or threatening move. Mr Tierney responded, saying that he had not seen what happened and needed advice whether the sanction should be a yellow or red card.

‘The Video Assistant Referee reviewed the video footage and advised, “Confirming yellow card. Confirming yellow card Jurgen Klopp.”

‘Armed with this confirmation Mr Tierney went to Mr Klopp and showed him a yellow card, saying: “Right…I have to show you yellow. …it could be red, but I am going to show you yellow. He said yellow. We will give you the benefit of the doubt, don’t do anything more.”

‘Mr Klopp’s frustrated reaction can be clearly seen in the video footage.’


Klopp is now set to be absent from the sidelines for Liverpool’s final home clash of the season with Aston Villa on Saturday as he serves his touchline ban. The German previously was absent from the sidelines for the Reds’ 3-1 victory over Southampton back in November after serving a previous touchline ban for his conduct during his side’s 1-0 victory over Man City.'

[Ghost Town]

So just the last home game of the season?

Yes, the announcement is convenient in that the next game happens to be the last home game of the season, and the harder of the two remaining games.

Still, since they are adament that a ban was needed at least it's not carrying over into next season. And it's not a stadium ban so he will be present for the end of season revelries

[Chakan]

Yes, the announcement is convenient in that the next game happens to be the last home game of the season, and the harder of the two remaining games.

Still, since they are adament that a ban was needed at least it's not carrying over into next season. And it's not a stadium ban so he will be present for the end of season revelries

Righto cheers. 

Plus Klopp said exactly what Tierney said there, so the FA proving Klopp right.

[Barneylfc∗]

'FA release what referee Paul Tierney said to Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp following touchline ban':-

Jurgen Klopp has been handed a two-game touchline ban and £75,000 fine for his media comments about referee Paul Tierney after Liverpool's 4-3 victory over Tottenham Hotspur

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fa-release-what-referee-paul-26943524?



a snippet...


'The FA have revealed what referee Paul Tierney said to Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp when booking the German during the Reds’ 4-3 victory over Tottenham Hotspur earlier this month.

Klopp was handed a yellow card by the official after celebrating Diogo Jota’s late winner in the face of fourth official, John Brooks. Meanwhile, the Liverpool boss would later repeatedly criticise Tierney and accuse him of being biased against the Reds when speaking in his post-match interviews, while also insisting that what the referee said “to me when he gave me the yellow card is not okay."

Having admitted improper conduct, Klopp has been fined £75,000 and suspended from the touchline for two matches, with the second match suspended until the end of the next season on the condition that he does not commit any further breaches of FA Rule E3 in the meantime, as punishment for his media comments.

An independent Regulatory Commission imposed these sanctions following a hearing. And in their written reasons, they included a transcription of what Tierney, who was mic’d up, said to Klopp when showing him a yellow card.


Their report states: ‘Mr Brooks contacted Mr Tierney and said: “Jurgen Klopp has just run and celebrated in my face. I think it’s a yellow card mate, minimum.”

‘It is clear that Mr Brooks considered Mr Klopp’s conduct to be misplaced celebration rather than an aggressive or threatening move. Mr Tierney responded, saying that he had not seen what happened and needed advice whether the sanction should be a yellow or red card.

‘The Video Assistant Referee reviewed the video footage and advised, “Confirming yellow card. Confirming yellow card Jurgen Klopp.”

‘Armed with this confirmation Mr Tierney went to Mr Klopp and showed him a yellow card, saying: “Right…I have to show you yellow. …it could be red, but I am going to show you yellow. He said yellow. We will give you the benefit of the doubt, don’t do anything more.”

‘Mr Klopp’s frustrated reaction can be clearly seen in the video footage.’


Klopp is now set to be absent from the sidelines for Liverpool’s final home clash of the season with Aston Villa on Saturday as he serves his touchline ban. The German previously was absent from the sidelines for the Reds’ 3-1 victory over Southampton back in November after serving a previous touchline ban for his conduct during his side’s 1-0 victory over Man City.'

So celebrating is a yellow card offence now?
Was Ped sanctioned for celebrating in the face of Liverpool players?

Also, since when was it within VAR remit to make judgement on yellow card offences?

[stoa]

What a complete and utter fucking joke. What is Klopp getting banned for? Can't get banned for a yellow card especially when everybody involved basically agreed it was a yellow card. Can't ban him for what he said after the match, because as has been mentioned the transcript confirms what a c*nt Tierney is and everything what Klopp said. Why is Tierney telling him, it could be a red, but he'll give him a yellow, when both the 4th assistant and VAR said it's a yellow. What a fucking joke this whole thing is... That's what we get for letting our players be elbowed by linos...

[Ghost Town]

So celebrating is a yellow card offence now?
Was Ped sanctioned for celebrating in the face of Liverpool players?

Yeah refs are a precious bunch, easily outraged if they think their dignity has been compromised. It sometimes seems like they seem less bothered if the person in question isn't an absolute boss, beloved by the masses, who needs taking down a peg or two, in their opinion.

Also, since when was it within VAR remit to make judgement on yellow card offences?

If there's a question as to whether it should be a red then it's part of VARs remit to check. Who decided that it might be worth a red, however, is less clear.

[redalways]

Well they can't ban us . Next time that Manc c*nt referees our game we should let him know what a fuckin cheat he is.

[edeyj]

Well they can't ban us . Next time that Manc c*nt referees our game we should let him know what a fuckin cheat he is.

Couldn't agree more.

[Andy82lfc]

That’s what happens when the club is soft as fuck. Opened our entire arsehole for the elbowing linesman, accepted the actual blatant lies in response from them and moved on. Then butt fucked once more after Klopp gets singled out for celebrating in front of a thin-skinned assistant.

[PaulF]

Klopp to be on kop surely. 90 mins of wall to wall noise. Or 90 mins of si senor.

[keyop]

Klopp to be on kop surely. 90 mins of wall to wall noise. Or 90 mins of si senor.

That would be bloody brilliant and would be so Jurgen. Not sure how he'd hear whats being said in his earpiece though, and he'd be mobbed when we score.

He could do a stage dive from the back row, and everyone could pass him around like a human flag. 12,000 selfies might take a while though.

[rob1966]

And yet we politely accept an apology from the linesman for elbowing Robertson and he faces no further action.

That’s what happens when the club is soft as fuck. Opened our entire arsehole for the elbowing linesman, accepted the actual blatant lies in response from them and moved on. Then butt fucked once more after Klopp gets singled out for celebrating in front of a thin-skinned assistant.

We might as well stand in a field shouting at clouds as try to go against the FA/PL and PGMOL. Look at Taylors recent performance v Brentford at Anfield, they just do their best to fuck us over. We are one club out of twenty, until the rest get behind us, there is fuck all we can do.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

We might as well stand in a field shouting at clouds as try to go against the FA/PL and PGMOL. Look at Taylors recent performance v Brentford at Anfield, they just do their best to fuck us over. We are one club out of twenty, until the rest get behind us, there is fuck all we can do.

We could shine a light on the double standards and put together a showreel of all the times we have been fucked over.

[redgriffin73]

FA release contents of 'lengthy letter' Liverpool sent about Mohamed Salah treatment


Liverpool have written to the Football Association to demand answers over Mohamed Salah's treatment by referees over the course of the season.

At the centre of a contentious decision that went unpunished during Liverpool's 4-3 victory over Tottenham Hotspur last month, Salah was pulled back by defender Ben Davies but saw Paul Tierney take no action against the Welshman. Spurs then went up the other end of the pitch and scored, leaving Jurgen Klopp bemused on the touchline.

Liverpool would issue an instant response to Richarlison's goal, resulting in an emotional goal celebration and controversial post-match comments from Klopp regarding Tierney's officiating. Learning his punishment for his actions yesterday afternoon, the Reds' boss was fined £75,000 and handed a two-match touchline ban by the FA for his remarks.

Klopp received similar disciplinary action back in October, again caused by a challenge on Liverpool's No.11. Hauled to the ground by Bernardo Silva in the Reds' 1-0 victory over Manchester City, the Portuguese midfielder remarkably saw his tackle ignored by referee Anthony Taylor.

Making reference to these incidents in a letter to the FA, a statement read: "Liverpool’s letter continued, explaining its belief that Salah had not been treated fairly by a number of refereeing decisions during the season. Whilst making clear that it made no accusations against Mr Tierney, Liverpool pointed to the fact that the had been involved in what it considered to have been a number of questionable decisions involving the club. That, it said, had led to a degree of sensitivity regarding Mr Tierney."

Reportedly fouled every 98.8 minutes in the Premier League this season, this statistic pales into insignificance compared to Jack Grealish's figure of 27.2. Asked after Liverpool's triumph over Tottenham if this surprised him, Klopp said: "Yes, these stats are surprising. I know them [the statistics] as well. He has the ball constantly at his feet, Mo is a dribbler and scores an insane number of goals over the years and it is like this. How Mo deals with all of this, I don't know."

“With the Silva decision taken into account and now this foul, it is the same punishment. I don't understand it. If nothing happens after that then it is done and dusted but we concede a goal 35 seconds after this incident."

https://www.liverpoolgecko.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fa-release-contents-lengthy-letter-26946347

[Aldo1988]

Hope they play "I fought the law'' at Anfield tomorrow.

[Dim Glas]

https://www.liverpoolgecko.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fa-release-contents-lengthy-letter-26946347

So they are releasing contents of a letter but what are they doing about it.

Glad the club said something, but this has been going on for years, not just this year, he’s treated differently to other players. Partly because he smiles and gets on with it rather than get into the refs face and shouts abuse at them like other players do. Which makes the whole thing utterly ridiculous, because Klopp goes to bat FOR Salah, and then gets fined and suspended. Yet STILL noithing is done. Round and round we go with this shit league and shit FA. They are punishing the wrong person in Klopp, it’s the officials who need demoting and re-training.

[RyanBabel19]

https://www.liverpoolgecko.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fa-release-contents-lengthy-letter-26946347

They will have hated this and wont change a thing, absolute pisstake how much he’s fouled and ignored then punished

[Machae]

So what exactly is this fine and ban for? It's not the celebration and subsequent yellow card as that's been dealt with. Is it Klopps post match comments? How is what he said a fine and ban offence when managers say much worse things through every interview where they feel aggrieved

I know it's because he's Klopp and they wanted to make an example out of him. Hope the club pays the fine rather than Klopp being out of pocket

[tubby]

Where is this lengthy letter?

[stoa]

Where is this lengthy letter?

It seems the letter was part of our written statement in the case against Klopp. They've added the written reasons to the news about Klopp being suspended. It's a 10-page PDF that can be downloaded on https://www.thefa.com/news/2023/may/18/klopp-suspended-180523 (just scroll to the end of the text and the PDF is under "USEFUL RESOURCES"). It's our side and the FA's case. In our part they are quoting from a letter we have sent about Mo's treatment. It's kind of insane that this whole thing has lead to some procedure like this and with the lino elbowing Robbo we got "Nah, he said nothing happened, that's fine with us" and not much more of an investigation or statement.

Nice to also see that Tierney has been rewarded for his good behaviour by making him the ref in the FA Cup Final. Surprised Elbows isn't nominated as well... https://www.thefa.com/news/2023/may/17/paul-tierney-to-referee-emirates-fa-cup-final-20231705

[Slippers]

We could shine a light on the double standards and put together a showreel of all the times we have been fucked over.

It'd be like a Game Of Thrones box set.

[redgriffin73]

So what exactly is this fine and ban for? It's not the celebration and subsequent yellow card as that's been dealt with. Is it Klopps post match comments? How is what he said a fine and ban offence when managers say much worse things through every interview where they feel aggrieved

I know it's because he's Klopp and they wanted to make an example out of him. Hope the club pays the fine rather than Klopp being out of pocket

Yeah, pretty sure Moyes wasn't dealt with the other week when he confronted the ref on the pitch after our game and then went on about his decisions in his post match interview.

[redgriffin73]

Nice to also see that Tierney has been rewarded for his good behaviour by making him the ref in the FA Cup Final. Surprised Elbows isn't nominated as well... https://www.thefa.com/news/2023/may/17/paul-tierney-to-referee-emirates-fa-cup-final-20231705

Isn't it Tierney whose family are City STHs?

[24/7]

Isn't it Tierney whose family are City STHs?

Operation Sportswash almost complete.......

[macmanamanaman]

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp has suggested he will only pay his £75,000 Football Association fine if the money goes to "a good cause".

The German said he would "like to know" and "if it does, I'm happy to pay it. If it doesn't, we need to talk again".

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65650176




haha, that's some chutzpah. love it.
Klopp will pay the fine when he wants to, if he wants to.
Only if the PGMOL say please and thank you )

[Kalito]

Manchester City
Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp has suggested he will only pay his £75,000 Football Association fine if the money goes to "a good cause".

The German said he would "like to know" and "if it does, I'm happy to pay it. If it doesn't, we need to talk again".

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65650176




haha, that's some chutzpah. love it.
Klopp will pay the fine when he wants to, if he wants to.
Only if the PGMOL say please and thank you )

Good. 

[Dim Glas]

He’ll probably get into trouble for saying that too 

It’s fair that he asks though.

Anyone know?

[tubby]

He’ll probably get into trouble for saying that too 

It’s fair that he asks though.

Anyone know?

The money goes towards the annual PGMOL night out.

[Chakan]

He’ll probably get into trouble for saying that too 

It’s fair that he asks though.

Anyone know?

Remember when all the refs took a vacation and they prostitutes and whatnot.

Yeah....

[Ghost Town]

He’ll probably get into trouble for saying that too 

It’s fair that he asks though.

Anyone know?

SYP Benevolent Fund?

[rob1966]

Isn't it Tierney whose family are City STHs?

A Manc said to me today his family are Utd STH's. They're originally from Belfast, they moved to Wigan when he was 11, so I doubt any of them supported City. I bet non of the NI lads on here know any City fans

[Hazell]

It seems the letter was part of our written statement in the case against Klopp. They've added the written reasons to the news about Klopp being suspended. It's a 10-page PDF that can be downloaded on https://www.thefa.com/news/2023/may/18/klopp-suspended-180523 (just scroll to the end of the text and the PDF is under "USEFUL RESOURCES"). It's our side and the FA's case. In our part they are quoting from a letter we have sent about Mo's treatment. It's kind of insane that this whole thing has lead to some procedure like this and with the lino elbowing Robbo we got "Nah, he said nothing happened, that's fine with us" and not much more of an investigation or statement.

Nice to also see that Tierney has been rewarded for his good behaviour by making him the ref in the FA Cup Final. Surprised Elbows isn't nominated as well... https://www.thefa.com/news/2023/may/17/paul-tierney-to-referee-emirates-fa-cup-final-20231705

Thanks for that. This bit jumped out which confused me a bit:

"The FA continued, analysing what Mr Klopp had said on 30 May 2023, and setting out the words used (which we have already set out above)."

[stoa]

Thanks for that. This bit jumped out which confused me a bit:

"The FA continued, analysing what Mr Klopp had said on 30 May 2023, and setting out the words used (which we have already set out above)."

I read it in a way that they analysed every single letter of what a non-native English speaker said to find something to punish him for. It's basically what they did. They say Klopp talked about Tierney as if he was trying to say Tierney had something against him and that was wrong. However, their own transcript shows that Tierney really seems to have an issue with Klopp. If he didn't, why would he tell Klopp that it could have been a red for an incident he didn't even fucking see himself and was told by two people that it's a yellow card? Yeah, the 4th official said it's "a yellow minimum", but at the same time he seems to have made it clear that it wasn't anything really bad from Klopp. The whole thing is a farce...

[StigenKeegan]

So one of the accusations were that Klopp "did not correct the reporter when the reporter suggested something unacceptable had taken place" !!! The reporter is representing the broadcaster who are in a sense managing the PL on behalf of the rights holder, but THEY are not being held accountable... It's a farce...

Tomkins has PROVEN that there's obvious bias in the way Liverpool are being treated since Klopp became manager. https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/referees-treat-lfc-very-differently?publication_id=139247&isFreemail=true
It's cost us two league titles already. But Klopp is being punished for suggesting bias? Where was the punishement when Lampard basically called the ref corrupt after the Rodri (non)handball last season? There were none since it was obvious what had happened (and because Lampard is a good ol' boy). But it is also a fact that there's bias against Liverpool. They should make their minds up: Either it is always punishable to imply bias, even when theres obvious bias, or it's ok to call out bias when it's actually occuring. They can't just make things up as they go along and punish the same acts differently....or wait a minute... how silly of me.... ofc they can, that is litteraly their whole thing...

Also, with all the history between LFC, Klopp and the FA/PMGOL I find it hard to believe that this touchline ban "just happened" to be at the last homegame of the season.

[Crosby Nick]

I read it in a way that they analysed every single letter of what a non-native English speaker said to find something to punish him for. It's basically what they did. They say Klopp talked about Tierney as if he was trying to say Tierney had something against him and that was wrong. However, their own transcript shows that Tierney really seems to have an issue with Klopp. If he didn't, why would he tell Klopp that it could have been a red for an incident he didn't even fucking see himself and was told by two people that it's a yellow card? Yeah, the 4th official said it's "a yellow minimum", but at the same time he seems to have made it clear that it wasn't anything really bad from Klopp. The whole thing is a farce...

Proper “puffed up with their own self importance” comment isn’t it. Like a teacher or policeman on a power trip.