Author Topic: Jürgen Klopp (Read 981506 times)

Ghost Town · « **Reply #10200 on:** July 27, 2023, 01:59:26 pm »

Excellent as ever from Jurgen. How I dread the day that it's he who is saying goodbye

StevoHimself · « **Reply #10201 on:** July 27, 2023, 02:16:24 pm »

Wasn't sure where to post this (any relevant thread seems to get locked any time there's something actually worth discussing strangely), but I thought it was interesting hearing Klopp talk about a preference for long-serving captains.

I'm sure it'll be VVD, but I wonder if TAA will be considered considering he's probably going to play the majority of the remainder of his career at Liverpool and will most likely be the favourite for the captaincy next time it's available.

StevoHimself · « **Reply #10202 on:** July 27, 2023, 02:17:14 pm »

Having said that, I'm not sure if it'll be Klopp's decision or whether it's the type of thing the squad votes on?

newterp · « **Reply #10203 on:** July 27, 2023, 02:40:51 pm »

Klopp always keeping it classy.

paulrazor · « **Reply #10204 on:** July 27, 2023, 02:44:30 pm »

Quote from: StevoHimself on July 27, 2023, 02:16:24 pm

Wasn't sure where to post this (any relevant thread seems to get locked any time there's something actually worth discussing strangely), but I thought it was interesting hearing Klopp talk about a preference for long-serving captains.

I'm sure it'll be VVD, but I wonder if TAA will be considered considering he's probably going to play the majority of the remainder of his career at Liverpool and will most likely be the favourite for the captaincy next time it's available.

I think it will be VVD and Ali

I would be tempted to go with Robbo and possibly Ali vice captain but I am not Jurgen

classy statement with Henderson.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #10205 on:** July 27, 2023, 03:22:45 pm »

Quote from: StevoHimself on July 27, 2023, 02:16:24 pm

Wasn't sure where to post this (any relevant thread seems to get locked any time there's something actually worth discussing strangely), but I thought it was interesting hearing Klopp talk about a preference for long-serving captains.

I'm sure it'll be VVD, but I wonder if TAA will be considered considering he's probably going to play the majority of the remainder of his career at Liverpool and will most likely be the favourite for the captaincy next time it's available.

difference is now, he’s making a decision later in his time here as manager, his Mainz and BVB captains where chosen when he started there.

I would be surprised if it wasn’t Virgil. With Ali as 2nd in command!

number 168 · « **Reply #10206 on:** July 27, 2023, 03:27:40 pm »

Quote from: Dim Glas on July 27, 2023, 03:22:45 pm

difference is now, he’s making a decision later in his time here as manager, his Mainz and BVB captains where chosen when he started there.

I would be surprised if it wasn’t Virgil. With Ali as 2nd in command!

I agree although I hope Mo is recognised in the Leadership Group. He is a great role model for young players in every respect and has shown loyalty to the Club.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #10207 on:** July 27, 2023, 03:28:50 pm »

Quote from: number 168 on July 27, 2023, 03:27:40 pm

I agree although I hope Mo is recognised in the Leadership Group. He is a great role model for young players in every respect and has shown loyalty to the Club.

defo agree with that, I’d like to see Mo and Trent in that group.

newterp · « **Reply #10208 on:** July 27, 2023, 03:54:09 pm »

Since we can't talk about it elsewhere - aren't VVD and Mo effectively near the end of their deals?

Mo - next summer will be an interesting one - if anyone doesn't believe Saudi will be after him - they are deluding themselves. He will also be 33(?)
VVD - next summer he has 2 years left? I'd also expect Saudi to come for him - and he'll be 34 next summer (?)

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #10209 on:** July 27, 2023, 04:36:50 pm »

Quote from: newterp on July 27, 2023, 03:54:09 pm

Since we can't talk about it elsewhere - aren't VVD and Mo effectively near the end of their deals?

Mo - next summer will be an interesting one - if anyone doesn't believe Saudi will be after him - they are deluding themselves. He will also be 33(?)
VVD - next summer he has 2 years left? I'd also expect Saudi to come for him - and he'll be 34 next summer (?)

Aldo1988 · « **Reply #10210 on:** July 27, 2023, 04:59:14 pm »

Good to see Jürgen call him a legend. If it's good enough for Jürgen, it's good enough for me.

Nobby Reserve · « **Reply #10211 on:** July 27, 2023, 05:02:26 pm »

Quote from: WhereAngelsPlay on July 27, 2023, 04:36:50 pm

Why you bringing Hodgson into this?

Peabee · « **Reply #10212 on:** July 27, 2023, 05:09:02 pm »

Quote from: Aldo1988 on July 27, 2023, 04:59:14 pm

Good to see Jürgen call him a legend. If it's good enough for Jürgen, it's good enough for me.

*we can’t take what footballers or manager say at face value. It’s all PR, and we shouldn’t put them on pedestals. Behind closed doors he probably doesn’t care about Henderson. The club and PL are pushing this stance*

Am I doing it right?

PatriotScouser · « **Reply #10213 on:** July 27, 2023, 05:43:08 pm »

If he didn't care about Hendo he wouldn't have kept in the squad or as captain for so long..........but whatever.

mikeb58 · « **Reply #10214 on:** July 27, 2023, 05:43:29 pm »

Quote from: Peabee on July 27, 2023, 05:09:02 pm

*we can’t take what footballers or manager say at face value. It’s all PR, and we shouldn’t put them on pedestals. Behind closed doors he probably doesn’t care about Henderson. The club and PL are pushing this stance*

Am I doing it right?

It depends where you stand...whether you think Klopp is being sincere and honest in his opinion of Henderson or towing the party line and basically being 2 faced.

Personally, I think Klopp is being genuine in his thoughts on Henderson as a player and on his departure. I don't see Klopp as a person who waits till it's safe to do so, to state his personal and individual thoughts about anything.

Klopp even wished the best of luck to 'Becs and the kids' that seemed a nice, personal friendly touch to me.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #10215 on:** July 27, 2023, 06:09:37 pm »

I think he’s been very sincere. Hence I wasn’t getting the shouts yesterday about the silence from the club, and by him as being on purpose. Said it a couple times here I’d expect his reaction to be positive to Henderson.

Thing is, I think many would be surprised/shocked as to how little football people care about what is going on with this Saudi league and what it stands for.

Although it would be interesting if he did one day speak about the LGBTQ ally thing with Henderson, as to what his thoughts are on that.

SamLad · « **Reply #10216 on:** July 27, 2023, 06:23:04 pm »

Quote from: Dim Glas on July 27, 2023, 06:09:37 pm

I think he’s been very sincere. Hence I wasn’t getting the shouts yesterday about the silence from the club, and by him as being on purpose. Said it a couple times here I’d expect his reaction to be positive to Henderson.

Thing is, I think many would be surprised/shocked as to how little football people care about what is going on with this Saudi league and what it stands for.

Although it would be interesting if he did one day speak about the LGBTQ ally thing with Henderson, as to what his thoughts are on that.

the post-retirement books from Klopp and Henderson are gonna be very interesting.

imo it's only then that we, the great unwashed, get snippets of exactly wtf went on behind closed doors.

RedBec1993 · « **Reply #10217 on:** July 27, 2023, 06:26:20 pm »

I think Klopp’s goodbye to hendo was very sincere, klopp is so charismatic anyway. I don’t think he’d have wanted him to go either.

SamLad · « **Reply #10218 on:** July 27, 2023, 06:29:49 pm »

Quote from: RedBec1993 on July 27, 2023, 06:26:20 pm

I think Klopp’s goodbye to hendo was very sincere, klopp is so charismatic anyway. I don’t think he’d have wanted him to go either.

you're not the Becs Klopp mentioned - right?

Redman78 · « **Reply #10219 on:** July 27, 2023, 06:41:07 pm »

Quote from: Dim Glas on July 27, 2023, 06:09:37 pm

Thing is, I think many would be surprised/shocked as to how little football people care about what is going on with this Saudi league and what it stands for.

You can't just use that as a blanket statement though, some football people will care more than others. They're a reflection of society really, not sure why people would expect "football people" to care more so.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #10220 on:** July 27, 2023, 06:45:33 pm »

Of course Klopp was being sincere, it's entirely what he is about with most of his former players and Henderson was never going to be any different. Besides which he pretty much made it clear, he was happy for the players to leave, so it was a win-win situation.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #10221 on:** July 27, 2023, 06:48:15 pm »

Quote from: Redman78 on July 27, 2023, 06:41:07 pm

You can't just use that as a blanket statement though, some football people will care more than others. They're a reflection of society really, not sure why people would expect "football people" to care more so.

yeah I agree it was a bit too blanket a statement. But honestly at the very highest level, I see little to make me think there is any sort of backlash or questiioning of sportswashing or what is going on now with the Saudi league. I’ve mentioned why before - these are very very rich men, most have been coddled you could say since they where teenages. And footballers at this level tend to be protected, they are living in a bubble, with just their fellow footballers around them in their ‘work’ life, and then family and a close group of friends. And then - a few hangers on no doubt who’s only interest is in keeping on their good side! It’s sheltered, I really do believe that most just don’t give a shit.

And I don’t include Klopp in this group, I’m talking more about players.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #10222 on:** July 27, 2023, 08:01:58 pm »

Does Klopp drive a Subaru, as well. The tramp.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #10223 on:** July 27, 2023, 08:44:34 pm »

If Klopp ups and goes and manages Al Falafel, for £2 Million a week, what do you think of him then?

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #10224 on:** July 27, 2023, 08:47:27 pm »

Quote from: CHOPPER on July 27, 2023, 08:44:34 pm

If Klopp ups and goes and manages Al Falafel, for £2 Million a week, what do you think of him then?

A bigger con job of a c*nt than David Blaine.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #10225 on:** July 27, 2023, 08:52:12 pm »

Peabee · « **Reply #10226 on:** July 27, 2023, 08:58:17 pm »

I was only joking.

(Thought the asterisks made that clear.)

Hazell · « **Reply #10227 on:** July 27, 2023, 09:34:49 pm »

Al Falafel. Classy.

killer-heels · « **Reply #10228 on:** July 27, 2023, 10:38:50 pm »

Quote from: CHOPPER on July 27, 2023, 08:01:58 pm

Does Klopp drive a Subaru, as well. The tramp.

He drives a Vauxhall.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #10229 on:** July 27, 2023, 10:46:35 pm »

Quote from: killer-heels on July 27, 2023, 10:38:50 pm

He drives a Vauxhall.

He’s being rather Cavalier over this topic. The divvy.

alvaro · « **Reply #10230 on:** July 28, 2023, 12:53:10 am »

I suppose Klopp will announce VVD as new captain in the next press conference. Im really curious as to what he will reply when they ask him about Henderson criticism from part of the fan base. He is going to have to defend Henderson while not dismissing the sentiment from a significant portion of the match going reds.

B0151? · « **Reply #10231 on:** July 28, 2023, 01:24:30 am »

I get that Klopp seems a pretty progressive guy but I feel like if there are people seriously questioning the sincerity of his well-wishes to Hendo, well, I feel like you are setting yourself up for more future disappointment projecting your feelings like that. Don't forget the amount of time and days he has been working side by side with Henderson the past 8 years, that's a long time. Nevermind the rollercoaster of emotions and experiences they've shared.

As much as we the fans can make out we have a deep connection with the players, the reality is they are only ever one unfavorable transfer move away from that bond being severed. I understand there is more to this one but it's still true. That's not the case for Klopp or people who know him personally and will genuinely want Henderson to be doing well in life and happy.

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #10232 on:** July 28, 2023, 02:38:21 am »

Quote from: B0151? on July 28, 2023, 01:24:30 am

I get that Klopp seems a pretty progressive guy but I feel like if there are people seriously questioning the sincerity of his well-wishes to Hendo, well, I feel like you are setting yourself up for more future disappointment projecting your feelings like that. Don't forget the amount of time and days he has been working side by side with Henderson the past 8 years, that's a long time. Nevermind the rollercoaster of emotions and experiences they've shared.

As much as we the fans can make out we have a deep connection with the players, the reality is they are only ever one unfavorable transfer move away from that bond being severed. I understand there is more to this one but it's still true. That's not the case for Klopp or people who know him personally and will genuinely want Henderson to be doing well in life and happy.

He will always genuinely love Hendo, for as long as he has a hole in his arse.

StevoHimself · « **Reply #10233 on:** July 28, 2023, 04:44:32 pm »

Quote from: Dim Glas on July 27, 2023, 03:22:45 pm

difference is now, he’s making a decision later in his time here as manager, his Mainz and BVB captains where chosen when he started there.

I would be surprised if it wasn’t Virgil. With Ali as 2nd in command!

Yeah, that's probably the way I'd go. Ali or Robbo as VC.

blacksun · « **Reply #10234 on:** July 28, 2023, 07:44:34 pm »

Klopp is a pretty well rounded human being IMO so I'm pretty sure he can love Hendo the man and footballer whilst simultaneously not agreeing with his decision/stance on joining the Saudi league
Which I'm sure was part of the conversations they will most certainly have had in recent weeks. Klopp even says that some of their conversations have been difficult, that may have been one of them

Peabee · « **Reply #10235 on:** July 28, 2023, 08:37:54 pm »

Quote from: B0151? on July 28, 2023, 01:24:30 am

I get that Klopp seems a pretty progressive guy but I feel like if there are people seriously questioning the sincerity of his well-wishes to Hendo, well, I feel like you are setting yourself up for more future disappointment projecting your feelings like that. Don't forget the amount of time and days he has been working side by side with Henderson the past 8 years, that's a long time. Nevermind the rollercoaster of emotions and experiences they've shared.

As much as we the fans can make out we have a deep connection with the players, the reality is they are only ever one unfavorable transfer move away from that bond being severed. I understand there is more to this one but it's still true. That's not the case for Klopp or people who know him personally and will genuinely want Henderson to be doing well in life and happy.

Who’s questioning it?