Topic: THE NON-LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD

[newterp]

You’re safe in a tyrannical regime until they decide you’re not
It’s genuinely incredible that modern day people are so utterly credulous as to think that giving up freedom of expression is fine if there’s a nice gated compound
And it’s fcuking disgusting that people will excuse and even endorse barbarous murderous regimes if they give someone they know a job

I mean this is all true.

But have you heard that there is crime in ... other parts of the world? So that's really scary and a good reason to trust the regime instead.

[A Red Abroad]

You’re safe in a tyrannical regime until they decide you’re not
It’s genuinely incredible that modern day people are so utterly credulous as to think that giving up freedom of expression is fine if there’s a nice gated compound
And it’s fcuking disgusting that people will excuse and even endorse barbarous murderous regimes if they give someone they know a job

 

[Henry Gale]

You’re safe in a tyrannical regime until they decide you’re not
It’s genuinely incredible that modern day people are so utterly credulous as to think that giving up freedom of expression is fine if there’s a nice gated compound
And it’s fcuking disgusting that people will excuse and even endorse barbarous murderous regimes if they give someone they know a job

Giving up freedoms? I live in the Uk and I've never posted anything negative on social media about the royal family or the gov! It may be hard for you to understand that not everyone wakes us everyday and thinks of shite to post online. I'm much happier that my nephews are been raised in a place with virtually zero crime.

[JackWard33]

Giving up freedoms? I live in the Uk and I've never posted anything negative on social media about the royal family or the gov! It may be hard for you to understand that not everyone wakes us everyday and thinks of shite to post online. I'm much happier that my nephews are been raised in a place with virtually zero crime.

Thanks for underlining my point for me

[A Red Abroad]

Giving up freedoms? I live in the Uk and I've never posted anything negative on social media about the royal family or the gov! It may be hard for you to understand that not everyone wakes us everyday and thinks of shite to post online. I'm much happier that my nephews are been raised in a place with virtually zero crime.

Best hope they're not gay, eh?

[ScottScott]

Best hope they're not gay, eh?

Was going to say the same thing, best hope they don't grow up fancying other boys otherwise they'll be stoned to death

[A Red Abroad]

Was going to say the same thing, best hope they don't grow up fancying other boys otherwise they'll be stoned to death

 

[Henry Gale]

Best hope they're not gay, eh?

Well they lived briefly in Jamaica so they are used to those kind of laws 

[A Red Abroad]

Well they lived briefly in Jamaica so they are used to those kind of laws 

Huh!?

Strange reply mate.

(If someone is gay, they're gay - laws won't alter that).

[Henry Gale]

Huh!?

Strange reply mate.

(If someone is gay, they're gay - laws won't alter that).

To be honest discussing a 7 year olds sexuality online is fucking strange so I will leave it there.

[Jayo10]

Some absolute shite on this thread

[Kalito]

FFS....

[Knight]

You’re safe in a tyrannical regime until they decide you’re not
It’s genuinely incredible that modern day people are so utterly credulous as to think that giving up freedom of expression is fine if there’s a nice gated compound
And it’s fcuking disgusting that people will excuse and even endorse barbarous murderous regimes if they give someone they know a job

The idea that we have freedom of expression over here is naive for you Jack. There are certain things you could tweet over here which would have consequences too. Perhaps with a police visit, perhaps with people trying to get you sacked from your job. I'm all for defending freedom of expression but our inability to actually defend freedom of expression in the UK, whether it be on the left or the right, doesn't reveal a shining light of free expression.

[JackWard33]

The idea that we have freedom of expression over here is naive for you Jack. There are certain things you could tweet over here which would have consequences too. Perhaps with a police visit, perhaps with people trying to get you sacked from your job.

There’s no equivalence here to 30 years in jail for a tweet and being hacked apart with a bone saw for writing a column now is there?

And it’s not just a question of degree … we have rights that even expressing a desire to have let alone actually doing are criminal offenses that can get you imprisoned, tortured or killed in Saudi

Honestly even debating this stuff is nauseating given how self evident the difference between an autocratic regime and a western democracy should be to people lucky enough to live in the latter

[Knight]

There’s no equivalence here to 30 years in jail for a tweet and being hacked apart with a bone saw for writing a column now is there?

No, the consequences are much more severe. That is absolutely true.

[JackWard33]

No, the consequences are much more severe. That is absolutely true.

See my edited post it’s not just a question of degree

[Peabee]

The idea that we have freedom of expression over here is naive for you Jack. There are certain things you could tweet over here which would have consequences too. Perhaps with a police visit, perhaps with people trying to get you sacked from your job. I'm all for defending freedom of expression but our inability to actually defend freedom of expression in the UK, whether it be on the left or the right, doesn't reveal a shining light of free expression.

Freedom of expression doesn't mean you're free of all consequences of your expression, e.g. if it's hate speech, death threats, or like the idiot with the Hillsborough reference on his shirt etc. But you don't (yet) get arrested for criticising the govt in this country (I'd have been arrested 1000s of times if so).

[Knight]

Won’t derail the thread anymore and apologies for doing so. I shouldn’t have gone where I went given the context but I was thinking of something like this which airs the issues we have with freedom of expression in the UK. That said, undoubtedly the wrong context to raise it. Thanks for the polite engagement. https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1666086245309743105?s=21&t=_X3Zd67CpgNY3bY3cIuZxw

… so how much will Levy demand for Kane?

[Kennys from heaven]

Chelsea in for Veiga now.

If he goes there given their bloated squad, the utterly laughable lack of structure and what will be limited game time, then it will purely be because of the money and we'll have dodged a bullet.

No half decent player who wants to actually play and be part of something proper would ever go there, but that's me being rather idealistic and looking at it from a wayy different perspective than what actually happens in this game nowadays...

[Knight]

If he goes there given their bloated squad, the utterly laughable lack of structure and what will be limited game time, then it will purely be because of the money and we'll have dodged a bullet.

No half decent player who wants to actually play and be part of something proper would ever go there, but that's me being rather idealistic and looking at it from a wayy different perspective than what actually happens in this game nowadays...

I don't think it is, money is obviously important but the stability of the club and the likelihood of genuine career success and improvement as a player do matter and should matter. If Chelsea is your only option for a move then fair enough but if there are other options on the table no one should be going to Chelsea right now. That could change and Poch has a chance of making them a functioning team again but at the moment it's a huge risk.

[koptommy93]

Wilfried Zaha has been offered €45m to join Ronaldo’s Saudi side Al-Nassr on a 3-year-deal. 🇸🇦

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@SkySportsNews

[Crosby Nick]

Wilfried Zaha has been offered €45m to join Ronaldo’s Saudi side Al-Nassr on a 3-year-deal. 🇸🇦

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@SkySportsNews

Seems good value.

[DelTrotter]

Kante getting 100m euros per year, a past prime defensive midfielder who's never fit, ridiculous.

[koptommy93]

Kante getting 100m euros per year, a past prime defensive midfielder who's never fit, ridiculous.

The saudi's seem intent on just buying sport altogether. Why they've waited until now to try it I've no idea.

[Hazell]

Kante getting 100m euros per year, a past prime defensive midfielder who's never fit, ridiculous.

Still expect him to be fit when we meet them in the Club World Cup in a couple of years.

[disgraced cake]

Wilfried Zaha has been offered €45m to join Ronaldo’s Saudi side Al-Nassr on a 3-year-deal. 🇸🇦

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@SkySportsNews

 

[koptommy93]

Let all the pricks who want to fuck off to that league as far as i'm concerned. Will gladly see anyone who is interested in that leave including any liverpool players.

[Bread]

Wilfried Zaha has been offered €45m to join Ronaldo’s Saudi side Al-Nassr on a 3-year-deal. 🇸🇦

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@SkySportsNews

The very definition of "oh, he'll get his big move this summer! OK, not this summer but definitely next summer. Ok, it'll definitely be the summer after. He's too good for Palace, he'll definitely get a move to a big club soon. Oh, he signed a new contract? Must be a decent release clause so he can get his big move. He'll spend one more year at Palace, and then move on to a big club. He should have moved on 5 years ago, but he'll get his big move soon before it's too late"

And now he's nearly 31, and ousted as Palace's key player by Eze.

[stewy17]

The saudi's seem intent on just buying sport altogether. Why they've waited until now to try it I've no idea.

It turns my stomach.

Messi will 100% go too.

[Gifted Right Foot]

I can't believe we'll finally be able to play Chelsea without Kante or Kovacic playing their best games of the season.

[Wullie160975]

Surely the Saudi push for players is all for the World Cup bid (with a side of 'because they can').

[BarryCrocker]

Surely the Saudi push for players is all for the World Cup bid (with a side of 'because they can').

They fail to understand that there's still a majority of people who follow clubs and not players.

[Too early for flapjacks?]

The wealthy Gulf countries like Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE regions, should look to create the "Gulf Super League" with a few teams from each area. Would be a far superior product than any dometic league and generate far more interest locally and abroad.

[Crosby Nick]

They fail to understand that there's still a majority of people who follow clubs and not players.

It’s not in the same sportswashing league but it’s why despite liking cricket I’ve never really got into the IPL. I don’t know who plays for who’s team, they’ve tried to build up affiliations etc but I just can’t be bothered getting into it.

They’ll buy all these (mainly ageing) players but will anyone care? Will anyone watch it? On the flip side, I don’t suppose you can blame someone like Zaha if those stories are to be believed. He’s always linked with moves away. He’s coming toward the final years of his career and he now has a literally stupid offer. He won’t ever win anything at Palace. He’s probably missed the boat of joining a Champions League side or a team capable of competing for the big trophies.Couple of years playing there with no pressure and he’s made for life (I know he probably was already). It’s shit, but you can see how some heads are turned.

[Chris~]

It’s not in the same sportswashing league but it’s why despite liking cricket I’ve never really got into the IPL. I don’t know who plays for who’s team, they’ve tried to build up affiliations etc but I just can’t be bothered getting into it.

They’ll buy all these (mainly ageing) players but will anyone care? Will anyone watch it? On the flip side, I don’t suppose you can blame someone like Zaha if those stories are to be believed. He’s always linked with moves away. He’s coming toward the final years of his career and he now has a literally stupid offer. He won’t ever win anything at Palace. He’s probably missed the boat of joining a Champions League side or a team capable of competing for the big trophies.Couple of years playing there with no pressure and he’s made for life (I know he probably was already). It’s shit, but you can see how some heads are turned.

Don't think the end game is getting their league more viewers, but a World Cup, Champions League finals (or more games in general, club world cup?) etc. hosted there.

[disgraced cake]

I can't believe we'll finally be able to play Chelsea without Kante or Kovacic playing their best games of the season.

Is Kovacic still going to City? Will be a good signing that, I think he'd fit us well but he'd would have had to have been a third signing coming in behind a couple of younger/more expensive players. Think Chelsea should be making a better case for him to stay but with how often they change the side it's not surprising.

[Crosby Nick]

Is Kovacic still going to City? Will be a good signing that, I think he'd fit us well but he'd would have had to have been a third signing coming in behind a couple of younger/more expensive players. Think Chelsea should be making a better case for him to stay but with how often they change the side it's not surprising.

If he came to us he’d be injured over 50% of the time. At City he’ll be available whenever they need him with no discernible drop off.

[RyanBabel19]

Chinese Super League style deals back pretty swiftly

[BarryCrocker]

Chinese Super League style deals back pretty swiftly

This Saudi comp feels like the Chinese Super League of 2016-17

[RyanBabel19]

Looks so similar mate, huge money deals for players who could go and play at a good level in top 5 leagues… only lured to these other sides because of the eyewatering money involved. The level of football is nowhere near these players ability and it just comes across as something that will prove short lived