Topic: Injury news only thread. *

[Welshred]

typical

What is?

[Cattive Maniere]

Losing key player just before the month which could easily shape our goals for the rest of the season. Hopefully he won't be out for too long.

[NorthamptonKopite]

typical

I know right?

It is typical that people make assumptions about our injury situation through poor sources even though our manager clearly stated today that everyone is fine.

[Lenin.]

Losing key player just before the month which could easily shape our goals for the rest of the season. Hopefully he won't be out for too long.

I'm not a mind reader.

[peachybum]

Is it me or are we suffering a really concerning amount of injuries this season? Agger, Johnson, Enrique, Cissokho, Allen, Aspas, Coutinho and possibly Sturridge have all had to spend weeks on the treatment table. I wonder if there's questions being asked inside the club.

[Welshred]

Not really. The majority of those injuries are either long term ones (Enrique, Agger) or have come through contact or misfortune (Johnson, Enrique, Cissokho, Coutinho, Sturridge). In all only Allen's and Aspas' injuries could have been avoided as they're muscular, but you can't completely avoid muscle injuries anyway so you're going to get a few!

[Redman0151]

Is it me or are we suffering a really concerning amount of injuries this season? Agger, Johnson, Enrique, Cissokho, Allen, Aspas, Coutinho and possibly Sturridge have all had to spend weeks on the treatment table. I wonder if there's questions being asked inside the club.

I doubt it, I mean Rodgers is a massive proponent of modern fitness and individual training programmes, I remember reading how he changed Gerrard and Agger's training completely to stop them picking up injuries so often.

Agger, Johnson, Coutinho and Sturridge have suffered with injuries throughout their careers

[bird_lfc]

What's the deal with Kelly, is he still struggling for fitness or?

[G1 Jockey 4(betfair)]

would imagine he needs easing back in after that injury....can take some players a year or longer to get over it properly and yet some never really recover.
kellys not a light player so may take longer than say rossi or lucas.

[farawayred]

I doubt it, I mean Rodgers is a massive proponent of modern fitness and individual training programmes, I remember reading how he changed Gerrard and Agger's training completely to stop them picking up injuries so often.

Agger, Johnson, Coutinho and Sturridge have suffered with injuries throughout their careers

You mean the injections for Gerrard and Agger?

But I agree that Rodgers seems to have reduced the injuries overall. Maybe the intense training in preseason has something to do with the current injuries.

[Welshred]

You mean the injections for Gerrard and Agger?

But I agree that Rodgers seems to have reduced the injuries overall. Maybe the intense training in preseason has something to do with the current injuries.

Not at all...

Not really. The majority of those injuries are either long term ones (Enrique, Agger) or have come through contact or misfortune (Johnson, Enrique, Cissokho, Coutinho, Sturridge). In all only Allen's and Aspas' injuries could have been avoided as they're muscular, but you can't completely avoid muscle injuries anyway so you're going to get a few!

[farawayred]

Not at all...

I've seen these kinds of statements and they do make sense at first glance, but I haven't bought 100% into that. Say, if a player is fatigued, his concentration is not at its best level and a contact injury is more likely to occur because he didn't jump right, didn't tackle right, or whatever. Same goes for carrying a knock, say a leg, a player would tend to subconciously use the other leg more, which could stress is more than the "normal". Loose logic, but you get what I mean. How do such scenarios enter into the contact injuries statistics?

[Welshred]

They don't because they are completely irrelevant. You can't counter for extrinsic factors, which are what contact injuries are.

[DanA]

They don't because they are completely irrelevant. You can't counter for extrinsic factors, which are what contact injuries are.

You obviously can't completely remove impact injuries but why can't you counter for extrinsic factors? Improving movement patterns, limiting fatigue, core strength and good training programs in general can all impact this. Take Lucas' ACL, it could be classed as an impact injury but it's possible that injury wouldn't happen early in the game when he's less fatigued. I personally think fatigue played a part in that a tired Lucas', his reflexes and strength dulled, wasn't able to catch himself. He lands awkward, does his ACL. Possibly was unavoidable but I wouldn't be giving the S&C team a free pass on it. While you can't avoid impact injuries I think they good exercise programming can have impact on limiting them.

[Welshred]

You obviously can't completely remove impact injuries but why can't you counter for extrinsic factors? Improving movement patterns, limiting fatigue, core strength and good training programs in general can all impact this. Take Lucas' ACL, it could be classed as an impact injury but it's possible that injury wouldn't happen early in the game when he's less fatigued. I personally think fatigue played a part in that a tired Lucas', his reflexes and strength dulled, wasn't able to catch himself. He lands awkward, does his ACL. Possibly was unavoidable but I wouldn't be giving the S&C team a free pass on it. While you can't avoid impact injuries I think they good exercise programming can have impact on limiting them.

Either way it's nothing to do with what the players were doing in preseason, which is the original quote.

[Carlito Roberto]

You obviously can't completely remove impact injuries but why can't you counter for extrinsic factors? Improving movement patterns, limiting fatigue, core strength and good training programs in general can all impact this. Take Lucas' ACL, it could be classed as an impact injury but it's possible that injury wouldn't happen early in the game when he's less fatigued. I personally think fatigue played a part in that a tired Lucas', his reflexes and strength dulled, wasn't able to catch himself. He lands awkward, does his ACL. Possibly was unavoidable but I wouldn't be giving the S&C team a free pass on it. While you can't avoid impact injuries I think they good exercise programming can have impact on limiting them.

From your posting history I assumed finance was your area of expertise - fair play if you're also an expert in the medical profession. 

[xbugawugax]

Just came out of hibernation..

Just how many of our players are out for tomorrow?

From the official site it seems sturridge is confirmed as not playing due to sprained/turned ankle.

And rumors that Sakho, Coutinho and Suarez are injured as well? 

or is it just that "rumors'

we have to recall Meijer back if our strikeforce is so depleted

[DanA]

From your posting history I assumed finance was your area of expertise - fair play if you're also an expert in the medical profession. 

I have a degree in finance and degree in exercise science. I wouldn't say I am an expert in either though.

[ArchieC]

Just came out of hibernation..

Just how many of our players are out for tomorrow?

From the official site it seems sturridge is confirmed as not playing due to sprained/turned ankle.

And rumors that Sakho, Coutinho and Suarez are injured as well? 

or is it just that "rumors'

we have to recall Meijer back if our strikeforce is so depleted

Your gonna start a meltdown with those rumours lol

[PhaseOfPlay]

I have a degree in finance and degree in exercise science. I wouldn't say I am an expert in either though.

Exercise Finance?

[DanA]

Exercise Finance?

I find it gives me the perfect background to do bugger all for the work week bar post on RAWK.

[andymanlfc]

Just came out of hibernation..

Just how many of our players are out for tomorrow?

From the official site it seems sturridge is confirmed as not playing due to sprained/turned ankle.

And rumors that Sakho, Coutinho and Suarez are injured as well? 

or is it just that "rumors'

we have to recall Meijer back if our strikeforce is so depleted

Sakho as well now? Who is making up this bullshit?! I don't believe it for one second. No body gets this much bad luck with injuries, that's Sturridge (he is injured), Suarez, Coutinho, Sakho and Henderson I've heard are injured now.

[xbugawugax]

Your gonna start a meltdown with those rumours lol

its rawk..a meltdown is expected whether we win or lose or the reason cissokho not playing is because he got some crooked teeth when he was muching on a mars bar when he was a 3 year old.

so I take it as only Sturridge is unavailable and the rest of the first team are raring to go?

I find it gives me the perfect background to do bugger all for the work week bar post on RAWK.

time to calculate how much RVP earns everytime he finishes those laps under the Moysie...

[xbugawugax]

Sakho as well now? Who is making up this bullshit?! I don't believe it for one second. No body gets this much bad luck with injuries, that's Sturridge (he is injured), Suarez, Coutinho, Sakho and Henderson I've heard are injured now.

just heard from the an aunt of the long lost distant cousin of the tea lady that we are putting out the U21 team due to the injury crisis..

To be honest, i dont have any idea.

From the official site, only Sturridge is out unless Mignolet injures his pinkie during the warm up then I believe some one playing with the voodoo doll...

[lalchitri]

From the official site, only Sturridge is out

Couldn't see that.
Physioroom have him as a late fitness test today.

[DowntheLine1981]

Mods, I think for everyone's sake that this thread should either be locked or reserved for posters over 1000 posts.  Far to many people posted unsubstantiated shite on here and it causes murder along the rest of the site. 

Alternatively, the words 'I've heard that' should be substituted to 'I've just made this up'. 

And Twitter can fuck off en'all.

[Schmidt]

Mods, I think for everyone's sake that this thread should either be locked or reserved for posters over 1000 posts.  Far to many people posted unsubstantiated shite on here and it causes murder along the rest of the site. 

Alternatively, the words 'I've heard that' should be substituted to 'I've just made this up'. 

And Twitter can fuck off en'all.

Better make it posters with over 2000 posts .

It's only been the last day or two really that this has all cropped up, it'll stop when the team news comes out and confirms who is/isn't injured.

[robgomm]

I was injured reading this thread.

[TSC]

Well on the sky ticker only Sturridge is 'doubtful'.  No other probs mentioned re injuries.  Hull also have a couple out injured.

[Kennys from heaven]

Looked through most of the posts, but thought it might be useful to collate what's the latest on:

Enrique
Flanagan
Sturridge
Gerrard
Henderson
Suarez
Allen
Sakho

(Jesus - that's hell of a list)

In here. Given the size of the list, it'd be a damn sight easier to name the fit players we've got!

[Hayer]

That injury list is the last thing you need when you have a game coming up against fathead.

[Funky_Gibbons]

What's wrong with Suarez?

[GreatEx]

Or Hendo? Haven't watched the Chelsea game yet, but the prospect of four new injuries is disheartening to say the least.

[Kennys from heaven]

What's wrong with Suarez?

Or Hendo? Haven't watched the Chelsea game yet, but the prospect of four new injuries is disheartening to say the least.

Thought Brendan in his post match mentioned both of them as needing to be looked at... Or was I dreaming? (It's been a bad day, so could have got the wrong)

[Funky_Gibbons]

Thought Brendan in his post match mentioned both of them as needing to be looked at... Or was I dreaming? (It's been a bad day, so could have got the wrong)

Didn't see the post match interview mate. Hopefully nothing too serious if not our team could have a very unfamiliar look to it.

[rob1408]

He never mentioned Suarez.

[GreatEx]

I don't want to tempt fate, but only a broken bone or snapped ligament could keep Suarez out of a game. And they'd have to be in the legs, because he would play on with a broken arm, jaw, etc. So if he's picked up a knock today I'd just shrug my shoulders and say, "guess it'll only be a brace against Hull, then".

[Groundskeeper Willie]

Looked through most of the posts, but thought it might be useful to collate what's the latest on:

Enrique
Flanagan
Sturridge
Gerrard
Henderson
Suarez
Allen
Sakho

(Jesus - that's hell of a list)

In here. Given the size of the list, it'd be a damn sight easier to name the fit players we've got!

According to physioroom.com:

Enrique 18th Jan
Flanagan no return date
Sturridge 6th Jan
Gerrard 1st Jan

[Rojo O Muerto]

Gerrard, Flanagan and Sturridge can't come back soon enough. We're so threadbare at the moment.

[harryc]

Studge and Gerrard that's good news, sooner the better.