Author Topic: 2017/18 Champions League group stage draw. Thursday 24th August at 5pm (Read 195651 times)

JD. · « **Reply #840 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:25:33 pm »

Quote from: conman on August 23, 2017, 10:24:38 pm

Give us Barcelona, so we can shit all over them

Rather save that for the knockouts. Really rub it in.

alvaro · « **Reply #841 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:26:51 pm »

I did some math and the odds of having a death group of Real Madrid /Bayern/ Juventus and Barcelona/PSG are 12%, Im happy if we avoid that.

quinny · « **Reply #842 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:26:54 pm »

Quote from: HumanRed on August 23, 2017, 10:22:59 pm

Benfica, Sevilla, Liverpool and Celtic.

This will be a great draw for us. Not much travel, avoid the big guns and we get an opportunity to get revenge on Sevilla.

UEFA please set this group up for us.

You'll struggle to get that one!

Edit: Read Benfica as Barcelona. Having a shambles on this page

quinny · « **Reply #843 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:28:07 pm »

Quote from: alvaro on August 23, 2017, 10:26:51 pm

I did some math and the odds of having a death group of Real Madrid /Bayern/ Juventus and Barcelona/PSG are 12%, Im happy if we avoid that.

I don't want to terrify you but I think it's just over 14% (or 1 in 7)

alvaro · « **Reply #844 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:28:39 pm »

Quote from: quinny on August 23, 2017, 10:28:07 pm

I don't want to terrify you but I think it's just over 14% (or 1 in 7)

No because we cant get Real Madrid AND Barcelona so it goes down to 12%

SuperStevieNicol · « **Reply #845 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:29:03 pm »

Is there any restriction on us going Celtic or just premier league teams we cannot get?

quinny · « **Reply #846 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:29:22 pm »

Quote from: alvaro on August 23, 2017, 10:28:39 pm

No because we cant get Real Madrid AND Barcelona so it goes down to 12%

Was just about to correct myself!

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #847 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:29:32 pm »

Quote from: SuperStevieNicol on August 23, 2017, 10:29:03 pm

Is there any restriction on us going Celtic or just premier league teams we cannot get?

Just PL teams we can't get, Celtic were in a group with Man City last season.

rocco · « **Reply #848 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:29:57 pm »

Quote from: SuperStevieNicol on August 23, 2017, 10:29:03 pm

Is there any restriction on us going Celtic or just premier league teams we cannot get?

Just Pl

BeautifulGame91 · « **Reply #849 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:31:00 pm »

Quote from: SuperStevieNicol on August 23, 2017, 10:29:03 pm

Is there any restriction on us going Celtic or just premier league teams we cannot get?

Only PL teams

rob1966 · « **Reply #850 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:37:44 pm »

None of the big sides are going to want us in their group.

scalatore · « **Reply #851 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:43:38 pm »

Pot 2 looks rough. Hoping for Porto from that one. Bring on any of them though, we'll have to beat them eventually if we want number 6.

Linudden · « **Reply #852 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:43:53 pm »

Quote from: Barneylfc on August 23, 2017, 09:37:22 pm

Pot 1 : Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Juventus, Benfica, Monaco, Spartak Moscow, Shakhtar Donetsk

Pot 2 : Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, PSG, Borussia Dortmund, Sevilla, Manchester City, Porto, Manchester United

Pot 3 : Napoli, Tottenham, Basel, Olympiakos, Anderlecht, Liverpool, Roma, Beşiktaş

Pot 4 : Celtic, CSKA Moscow, Sporting Lisbon, APOEL Nicosia, Feyenoord, Maribor, RB Leipzig, Qarabag

Glad we'll avoid Roma, given that I heard rumours they were heading for pot 4 last spring. Let alone avoiding Basel. Three times the charm maybe but no thanks!

I'd fancy Shakthar, Porto and Maribor. Looks like a winnable group. Whichever team we get from pot 1 is going to be huge. 4 out of 7 teams there I feel we're probably on paper better then, Real would be ultra hard and Juventus/Bayern have obvious qualities even though they have weak spots. Pot 2 looks like bad news all along but PSG's defence and Neymar's lack of work rate back should be something to expose. Barca, Dortmund and Atlético are no-no's for me though. As for group 4 I'd be desperately keen on avoiding Celtic (Brendan's revenge, Battle of Britain, crazy tackles, crazy atmosphere... feels like a possible drabbing in Glasgow even though we'd probably beat them comfy at Anfield). Leipzig would be no fun either and Sporting, CSKA and Feyenoord will surely have big tricks up their sleeves on their days. If we get one weaker team from pot 1 and avoid especially Leipzig we're looking very good though.

Kashinoda · « **Reply #853 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:46:43 pm »

https://www.facebook.com/www.JOE.co.uk/videos/956166094547457/?fref=gs&hc_location=group

Bobinhood · « **Reply #854 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:46:58 pm »

We won it six times
we won it six times
wherever it is this year
we won it six times

Just practicing.....

Skeeve · « **Reply #855 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:48:43 pm »

I think the best case scenario would be something like Real, Porto and Feyenoord as you have a top team to smack down the weaker pot 2 side and postpones when we would have to meet them in the knockout phase too with Feyenoord out of pot 4 simply for being a known quantity to a certain extent and a relatively short journey too.

Samie · « **Reply #856 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:48:58 pm »

Quote from: Bobinhood on August 23, 2017, 10:46:58 pm

We won it six times
we won it six times
wherever it is this year
we won it six times

Just practicing.....

Kiev

mrantarctica · « **Reply #857 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:49:08 pm »

Really congested fixtures schedule coming up too

Man City then CL Group game 1 3 days later
Leicester then CL Group game 2 2 days later
Man Utd then CL Group game 3 2 days later
Huddersfield then CL Group game 4 2 days later
Southampton then CL Group game 5 2 days later
Brighton then CL Group game 6 4 days later but 3 days before Everton

The squad will have to be managed carefully to ensure that we remain competitive in the league also. Hopefully we aren't drawn against some of the Russian teams or Olympiakos where there will be quite a bit of travel involved. I wouldn't mind Monaco, Sevilla and Feyenoord

Clyne, Coutinho and Lallana can't come back fast enough too, would really beef up our squad a bit.

alvaro · « **Reply #858 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:51:21 pm »

I think we definetly want the russian/ukranian team in pot 1 in spite of the travel.

sms1986 · « **Reply #859 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:51:40 pm »

Quote from: Bobinhood on August 23, 2017, 10:46:58 pm

We won it six times
we won it six times
wherever it is this year
we won it six times

Just practicing.....

Kiev this time, we tend to do well in eastern cities when it comes to finals!

sms1986 · « **Reply #860 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:53:13 pm »

Quote from: mrantarctica on August 23, 2017, 10:49:08 pm

Really congested fixtures schedule coming up too

Man City then CL Group game 1 3 days later
Leicester then CL Group game 2 2 days later
Man Utd then CL Group game 3 2 days later
Huddersfield then CL Group game 4 2 days later
Southampton then CL Group game 5 2 days later
Brighton then CL Group game 6 4 days later but 3 days before Everton

The squad will have to be managed carefully to ensure that we remain competitive in the league also. Hopefully we aren't drawn against some of the Russian teams or Olympiakos where there will be quite a bit of travel involved. I wouldn't mind Monaco, Sevilla and Feyenoord

Clyne, Coutinho and Lallana can't come back fast enough too, would really beef up our squad a bit.

Coutinho should hopefully be back in the next two or three weeks, Lallana should be back early November and Clyne I'm not sure about but we seem to have a very capable young man in his place for now.

Black Bull Nova · « **Reply #861 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:54:08 pm »

Quote from: conman on August 23, 2017, 10:24:38 pm

Give us Barcelona, so we can shit all over them

We need to beat Barca and send them into the Europa ideally, for our country cousins, however that can be done

elsewhere · « **Reply #862 on:** August 23, 2017, 10:56:04 pm »

Quote from: Barneylfc on August 23, 2017, 09:37:22 pm

Pot 1 : Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Juventus, Benfica, Monaco, Spartak Moscow, Shakhtar Donetsk

Pot 2 : Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, PSG, Borussia Dortmund, Sevilla, Manchester City, Porto, Manchester United

Pot 3 : Napoli, Tottenham, Basel, Olympiakos, Anderlecht, Liverpool, Roma, Beşiktaş

Pot 4 : Celtic, CSKA Moscow, Sporting Lisbon, APOEL Nicosia, Feyenoord, Maribor, RB Leipzig, Qarabag

S. Moscow-Sevilla-Liverpool-Maribor

and

Real Madrid-United-Napoli-S.Lisbon

mkingdon · « **Reply #863 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:00:58 pm »

Shaktar Porto and Qarabag would do nicely. 👍

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #864 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:03:44 pm »

Quote from: mkingdon on August 23, 2017, 11:00:58 pm

Shaktar Porto and Qarabag would do nicely. 👍

No thanks, too much travel. Imagine a trip to Azerbaijan sandwiched in between games against Man U and Tottenham.

elsewhere · « **Reply #865 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:05:41 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on August 23, 2017, 11:03:44 pm

No thanks, too much travel. Imagine a trip to Azerbaijan sandwiched in between games against Man U and Tottenham.

Travel widens our horizons and broadens our minds mate

Samie · « **Reply #866 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:07:58 pm »

I want those tossers Seville if we're wanting some semi hard opposition. A bit of revenge for that shit show we offered up in the Europa final.

redmark · « **Reply #867 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:08:13 pm »

Quote from: Barneylfc on August 23, 2017, 09:37:22 pm

Pot 1 : Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Juventus, Benfica, Monaco, Spartak Moscow, Shakhtar Donetsk

Pot 2 : Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, PSG, Borussia Dortmund, Sevilla, Manchester City, Porto, Manchester United

Pot 3 : Napoli, Tottenham, Basel, Olympiakos, Anderlecht, Liverpool, Roma, Beşiktaş

Pot 4 : Celtic, CSKA Moscow, Sporting Lisbon, APOEL Nicosia, Feyenoord, Maribor, RB Leipzig, Qarabag

Juventus probably suit us least. Already stuffed Bayern this summer

. Save Madrid for later - and we can't have two Spanish teams in the group...

Barcelona. Destroy them home and away, have their fans boo their ageing overpaid arses off the pitch. Suarez begs Klopp to sign him. Mighty Barca bottom of the group.

Celtic. Say hello to Brendan, then show him how we approach CL games now.

Skeeve · « **Reply #868 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:08:39 pm »

Quote from: elsewhere on August 23, 2017, 11:05:41 pm

Travel widens our horizons and broadens our minds mate

It can get broadened nicely enough without travelling quite that far midweek thanks.

smurfinaus · « **Reply #869 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:09:24 pm »

Real Madrid, PSG, RB Leipzig, Liverpool anyone?

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #870 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:09:49 pm »

I don't care who we get, I'm just so excited to be there.

HumanRed · « **Reply #871 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:15:55 pm »

Just a side note. For a team like Arsenal this is draw is of interest because 5 English teams are in the CL and if they all get tougher groups then the CL hangovers will help Arsenal and possibly Leicester if they can rediscover their title winning form.

I think 3 seasons ago when we were outclassed under Brend in the group stages it hit our confidence in the league and made us think we weren't good enough to even be a top 4 side. We've got past that mental barrier now. It's so important that we don't get a Real or Barca in the group stages, we have so many youngsters and inexperienced players that the same thing could happen as three years ago.

So important to get a decent group so we don't lose ground and in the PL. Not much travel and deffo avoid the big guns.

alvaro · « **Reply #872 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:22:08 pm »

Stop obssesing about travelling distance, I rather play Spartak Moscow in Moscow than Real Madrid in Madrid.

alvaro · « **Reply #873 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:24:15 pm »

This is off-topic but Arsenal will want to take the EL seriously if they are not idiots. It gives them a backdoor to the CL in what looks like an increasingly difficult PL. They will want to field sides strong enough to make sure they get through the group stage.

Butter Keks · « **Reply #874 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:25:06 pm »

Quote from: Samie on August 23, 2017, 11:07:58 pm

I want those tossers Seville if we're wanting some semi hard opposition. A bit of revenge for that shit show we offered up in the Europa final.

Watched them last night, they scraped through and I mean scraped. Think we would take them apart at Anfield.

riismeister · « **Reply #875 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:29:45 pm »

Quote from: shook on August 23, 2017, 09:47:02 pm

Monaco, Barca, Qarabag
Easiest looking draw

I wouldn't want Qarabag. Would probably be the longest trip we've done for a one-off game ever, like half-way to Thailand. Would much rather take Celtic from pot 4 to be honest.

elsewhere · « **Reply #876 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:29:47 pm »

how about Leipzig?

Jayzy90 · « **Reply #877 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:33:43 pm »

There are some of the bigger teams I feel will be more worried about us then we are of them, based on tonight's performance anyway.
We will probably end up with a group of death, we never do anything the easy way 😂
Bring on whoever we get 😀👍🏻

WanderingRed · « **Reply #878 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:34:02 pm »

Don't know what all the fuss is about! I've got my alarm set for 4:15am

On a serious note, have Monaco actually strengthened at all this summer? All I've heard is M'Bappe is going to PSG on loan.

sms1986 · « **Reply #879 on:** August 23, 2017, 11:34:24 pm »

Quote from: riismeister on August 23, 2017, 11:29:45 pm

I wouldn't want Qarabag. Would probably be the longest trip we've done for a one-off game ever, like half-way to Thailand. Would much rather take Celtic from pot 4 to be honest.

I thought Kazan would be further, but seems that Qarabag beats it (2536 miles to Kazan, 3125 miles to Baku where Qarabag are based according to Google Maps).