Author Topic: The England Cricket Thread - 2024 (Read 643390 times)

dudleyred · « **Reply #320 on:** July 17, 2020, 07:02:40 pm »

Should have had another. Didn’t review

El Lobo · « **Reply #321 on:** July 17, 2020, 07:03:06 pm »

Eeeeh thought they might have reviewed that if he thought it hit his foot first. Absolutely plumb.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #322 on:** July 17, 2020, 07:03:21 pm »

good cricketer considering he's only about 12.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #323 on:** July 18, 2020, 10:34:04 am »

pissing down

koptommy93 · « **Reply #324 on:** July 18, 2020, 10:54:12 am »

Why did England bat for so long yesterday with a forecast like this?

Welshred · « **Reply #325 on:** July 18, 2020, 11:04:30 am »

Because they need to put a big score on the board to try and force the follow on to give them a chance of winning considering the forecast today

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #326 on:** July 18, 2020, 11:54:54 am »

If the Windies save the follow on I dont think we can win if we send Burns and Sibley our to open in the second innings!

Was funny yesterday listening to people say the Windies only need a draw to retain the Wisden Trophy here. Made me think, does anyone really care about any other series apart from The Ashes in those terms. If we draw here and win the third Test to level the series I wouldn’t really be bothered who holds the trophy. Only the Ashes (and Ryder Cup!) where that applies for me for some reason.

Bangin Them In · « **Reply #327 on:** July 18, 2020, 12:14:39 pm »

Anybody watching the Saffer cricket on the BBC red button ?

No idea what's going on - people on the banks with helmets and fishing nets

De Villiers et al are playing though

Apparently this :

Here are some of the basic rules of 3TeamCricket:

1. A match between three teams with eight players each

2. 36 overs in two halves of 18 overs

3. One innings of 12 overs each per team

4. Bat and bowl to one opponent in each half for six overs

5. After seventh wicket the not-out batter stands alone

6. Maximum three overs per bowler to either opponent

7. The team with the most runs wins

Robinred · « **Reply #328 on:** July 19, 2020, 11:11:30 am »

Morning all. Sun’s out at Old Trafford - we need wickets, agree with the comms team that Curran could be key.

voodoo ray · « **Reply #329 on:** July 19, 2020, 11:31:23 am »

Don't know if anyone is into the NFL but I think Joseph looks a bit like lamar jackson.

El Lobo · « **Reply #330 on:** July 19, 2020, 11:37:29 am »

Could do with an Anderson or Archer rampage....

Robinred · « **Reply #331 on:** July 19, 2020, 11:38:50 am »

Quote from: voodoo ray on July 19, 2020, 11:31:23 am

Don't know if anyone is into the NFL but I think Joseph looks a bit like lamar jackson.

Don’t know about that, but he’s got a lot of bling on his boots.

Kekule · « **Reply #332 on:** July 19, 2020, 12:37:06 pm »

Draw.

Hendollama · « **Reply #333 on:** July 19, 2020, 03:11:29 pm »

Perhaps should have declared earlier in the first innings. Draw seems most probable here.

Hendollama · « **Reply #334 on:** July 19, 2020, 03:26:18 pm »

Might have spoken too early there. Nothing new for me. Get in.

Robinred · « **Reply #335 on:** July 19, 2020, 04:59:56 pm »

Broadie bowling well - being dropped wound him up.

England can still win this test.

Kekule · « **Reply #336 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:00:35 pm »

Ooof. That didn’t get up. Signs of the pitch misbehaving a bit, but it’s all too late really. Windies 21 away from making England bat again. Once they get to that point they may as well shake hands on the draw.

Welshred · « **Reply #337 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:09:16 pm »

Oh hi Stuart Broad!

On another note has Michael Gough made an incorrect decision in this match? Outstanding umpiring.

Kekule · « **Reply #338 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:10:42 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on July 19, 2020, 05:09:16 pm

Oh hi Stuart Broad!

On another note has Michael Gough made an incorrect decision in this match? Outstanding umpiring.

Holding was just praising him too.

Good decision that one, I thought it was going way over on first viewing. I didn’t appreciate how much of a short arse Dowrich is.

Bangin Them In · « **Reply #339 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:14:01 pm »

Quote from: Kekule on July 19, 2020, 05:00:35 pm

Ooof. That didn’t get up. Signs of the pitch misbehaving a bit, but it’s all too late really. Windies 21 away from making England bat again. Once they get to that point they may as well shake hands on the draw.

England may as well declare early and take the chance of losing the series 2-0 as 1-0 for a chance to bowl Windies out

Set them 250-300 and give a chance

Welshred · « **Reply #340 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:16:15 pm »

Quote from: Bangin Them In on July 19, 2020, 05:14:01 pm

England may as well declare early and take the chance of losing the series 2-0 as 1-0 for a chance to bowl Windies out

Set them 250-300 and give a chance

But a draw gives them points in the test championship...

Legs · « **Reply #341 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:17:38 pm »

Quote from: Bangin Them In on July 19, 2020, 05:14:01 pm

England may as well declare early and take the chance of losing the series 2-0 as 1-0 for a chance to bowl Windies out

Set them 250-300 and give a chance

Depending how quick we get them out I can see us setting around 270-280 in around 80 overs.

We should open with Butler or Crawley to score quickly wickets don’t matter runs do

Kekule · « **Reply #342 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:20:28 pm »

Quote from: Bangin Them In on July 19, 2020, 05:14:01 pm

England may as well declare early and take the chance of losing the series 2-0 as 1-0 for a chance to bowl Windies out

Set them 250-300 and give a chance

Isn’t this part of the Test Championship though? You get points for a draw and nothing for defeat.

Normally I’d agree but this set up makes teams less likely to make a sporting declaration I would say as it’s not just the series on the line.

Legs · « **Reply #343 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:24:12 pm »

We won’t get to be the best if we play safety first at home the Aussies would go for it in the same situation at home.

We are ranked 6/7th aren’t we so a defeat is not exactly going to ruin us !

koptommy93 · « **Reply #344 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:32:44 pm »

Getting interesting now.

Bangin Them In · « **Reply #345 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:32:56 pm »

Quote from: Kekule on July 19, 2020, 05:20:28 pm

Isn’t this part of the Test Championship though? You get points for a draw and nothing for defeat.

Normally I’d agree but this set up makes teams less likely to make a sporting declaration I would say as it’s not just the series on the line.

Surely to maximise points you'd want every chance to win ?

Also not too sure that the players/teams are as focussed on the test championship as some would like to think

Kekule · « **Reply #346 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:38:44 pm »

He hit it, pitched outside leg, hit him outside leg, and was missing the leg stump.

Other than that, great shout!

Welshred · « **Reply #347 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:40:04 pm »

Quote from: Legs on July 19, 2020, 05:24:12 pm

We won’t get to be the best if we play safety first at home the Aussies would go for it in the same situation at home.

We are ranked 6/7th aren’t we so a defeat is not exactly going to ruin us !

No they wouldn't. Every single test side in the world would ensure defeat isn't possible before bowling for the win.

Kekule · « **Reply #348 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:45:17 pm »

Reckon that’s that.

Legs · « **Reply #349 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:48:08 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on July 19, 2020, 05:40:04 pm

No they wouldn't. Every single test side in the world would ensure defeat isn't possible before bowling for the win.

If they were 1-0 down in a 3 match series they would do.

West Indies won’t chase down 270-280 on the last day no chance.

Welshred · « **Reply #350 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:50:31 pm »

Quote from: Legs on July 19, 2020, 05:48:08 pm

If they were 1-0 down in a 3 match series they would do.

West Indies won’t chase down 270-280 on the last day no chance.

No they wouldn't. Show me an example from history where a team has declared to leave an achievable 4th innings total and I'll change my mind about it, I think you'll really struggle though.

Legs · « **Reply #351 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:53:35 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on July 19, 2020, 05:50:31 pm

No they wouldn't. Show me an example from history where a team has declared to leave an achievable 4th innings total and I'll change my mind about it, I think you'll really struggle though.

Well they did at the oval in 2013-15 and we would have won that game if they didn’t start to panic because of the light.

You play sport to win not draw knowing us we will go out with Sibley as opener when I’d go Butler if we score a quick 120 it doesn’t matter how many wickets you lose.

dudleyred · « **Reply #352 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:54:18 pm »

Found one

Fifth Test, Centurion, 2000 | South Africa 0-0dec & 248-8dec v England 0-0dec & 251-8
England won by 2 wickets

Opposing captains are often praised for trying to force a result in rain-affected matches, so when Hansie Cronje offered Nasser Hussain the chance to do so in January 2000, it was seen as a victory for Test cricket. After both sides declared their first innings on 0-0, South Africa reached 248-8 in their second, before Cronje called his batsmen in. England chased down the modest total to record an unlikely two-wicket win, with Darren Gough hitting the winning runs.

Kekule · « **Reply #353 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:55:29 pm »

Quote from: Legs on July 19, 2020, 05:53:35 pm

Well they did at the oval in 2013-15 and we would have won that game if they didn’t start to panic because of the light.

You play sport to win not draw knowing us we will go out with Sibley as opener when I’d go Butler if we score a quick 120 it doesn’t matter how many wickets you lose.

I don’t think it matters anyway. These two look like they’ll still be knocking it around comfortably till about lunchtime tomorrow.

Kekule · « **Reply #354 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:56:27 pm »

Quote from: dudleyred on July 19, 2020, 05:54:18 pm

Found one

Fifth Test, Centurion, 2000 | South Africa 0-0dec & 248-8dec v England 0-0dec & 251-8
England won by 2 wickets

Opposing captains are often praised for trying to force a result in rain-affected matches, so when Hansie Cronje offered Nasser Hussain the chance to do so in January 2000, it was seen as a victory for Test cricket. After both sides declared their first innings on 0-0, South Africa reached 248-8 in their second, before Cronje called his batsmen in. England chased down the modest total to record an unlikely two-wicket win, with Darren Gough hitting the winning runs.

Legs · « **Reply #355 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:57:33 pm »

Quote from: Kekule on July 19, 2020, 05:55:29 pm

I don’t think it matters anyway. These two look like they’ll still be knocking it around comfortably till about lunchtime tomorrow.

Still an hour left plus 98 overs to go tomorrow so time yet but if I was a betting man I would say it will be a draw.

Welshred · « **Reply #356 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:57:48 pm »

Quote from: Legs on July 19, 2020, 05:53:35 pm

Well they did at the oval in 2013-15 and we would have won that game if they didn’t start to panic because of the light.

You play sport to win not draw knowing us we will go out with Sibley as opener when I’d go Butler if we score a quick 120 it doesn’t matter how many wickets you lose.

Wouldn't particularly say that leaving 227 with 40 overs to play in test cricket is achievable and in the end that was proven by us not achieving it. A 2 year Ashes series would be fun though

They'll set a total to ensure they don't lose first, like all sides do.

Buttler is shit at test cricket. He'd be even shitter opening the bowling, especially if he crawls along like he did in the first innings when you want him to increase the tempo. Although it might help bin him off if he opens and fails.

Welshred · « **Reply #357 on:** July 19, 2020, 05:58:30 pm »

Quote from: dudleyred on July 19, 2020, 05:54:18 pm

Found one

Fifth Test, Centurion, 2000 | South Africa 0-0dec & 248-8dec v England 0-0dec & 251-8
England won by 2 wickets

Opposing captains are often praised for trying to force a result in rain-affected matches, so when Hansie Cronje offered Nasser Hussain the chance to do so in January 2000, it was seen as a victory for Test cricket. After both sides declared their first innings on 0-0, South Africa reached 248-8 in their second, before Cronje called his batsmen in. England chased down the modest total to record an unlikely two-wicket win, with Darren Gough hitting the winning runs.

You've cracked it!

Legs · « **Reply #358 on:** July 19, 2020, 06:01:58 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on July 19, 2020, 05:57:48 pm

Wouldn't particularly say that leaving 227 with 40 overs to play in test cricket is achievable and in the end that was proven by us not achieving it. A 2 year Ashes series would be fun though

They'll set a total to ensure they don't lose first, like all sides do.

Buttler is shit at test cricket. He'd be even shitter opening the bowling, especially if he crawls along like he did in the first innings when you want him to increase the tempo. Although it might help bin him off if he opens and fails.

227 off 44 overs was the figure they set and we needed 21 off 24 balls I’d make us big favourites to win with 5 wickets left.

Can’t remember what year it was but as we won the series we went for it in normal test conditions you wouldn’t score at that rate but say we were 15-3 we’d likely have just blocked the overs out so we had nothing to lose.

Welshred · « **Reply #359 on:** July 19, 2020, 06:05:04 pm »

We fell short. Australia batted long enough to ensure we weren't in a position to win the game, which is what England will do when batting tonight/tomorrow.