Topic: Spanish Football

[RobbieRedman]

It's half empty tonight. Phil's just come on, maybe he's got something to do with that

[stevensr123]

I was reading today on Goal that Barca's average attendance this season has dropped 12k from last season.

Strange especially with Messi at the peak of his powers and walking the league.

Wonder what the reasons are for?  Have there ticket prices increased much?

[RobbieRedman]

Good header from Suarez, 1-0

[RedSince86]

Wonder what the reasons are for?  Have there ticket prices increased much?

Here's the article.

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/the-mystery-of-why-messi-and-barcelona-are-haemorrhaging-fans-at-/1lj8rsxd4zoea1q5ln95qral9m

[FCukBarca Haw-Haw]

Wonder what the reasons are for?  Have there ticket prices increased much?

What the article cited in another post fails to mention however is that Catalan independence movement and the violent Spanish reaction has had an influence as well.  It's affecting the gathering of cules together over concerns of reprisal from the state and this has impacted tourism as well

Of course, Valverde being mind numbingly boring with the 4-4-2 isn't helping either

[Vinay]

What the article cited in another post fails to mention however is that Catalan independence movement and the violent Spanish reaction has had an influence as well.  It's affecting the gathering of cules together over concerns of reprisal from the state and this has impacted tourism as well

Of course, Valverde being mind numbingly boring with the 4-4-2 isn't helping either

I am not really following things off the pitch. But, given the low block tactics of the majority of teams playing Barca, I don't think Valverde and Barca are boring.

[Dull Tools]

What the article cited in another post fails to mention however is that Catalan independence movement and the violent Spanish reaction has had an influence as well.  It's affecting the gathering of cules together over concerns of reprisal from the state and this has impacted tourism as well

Of course, Valverde being mind numbingly boring with the 4-4-2 isn't helping either

Or the fact the stadium was completely empty for a game.

[Chris~]

Or the fact the stadium was completely empty for a game.

They excluded that from the averages

[Suareznumber7]

Coutinho is bloody good, but Iniesta is on another level. Sublime player!

I was actually at this game.  Thought Coutinho played a few nice passes but was poor overall.  You can see he’s not quite on the same page as the other players which isn’t suprising.  He actually seemed to keep moving into he same space that Messi was occupying a few times. 

Three really good goals in this game and it is always fun to be in Camp Nou when Messi scores a game winner. 

[Suareznumber7]

Mind numbingly boring 4-4-2.  Valverde has almost always used this eventhough he too was influenced by Cruyff but the argument has been that with Ousmane injured, he's reverted to this to give the team balance, aka boredom

Well.....they start out in a 4-4-2 formation at kickoff and that’s what you see on the team sheet but if you actually watch the movements of the players it’s nowhere near a “Mind numbingly boring 4-4-2”.  It’s actually not even a 4-4-2 at all. 

[kloppismydad]

I was actually at this game.  Thought Coutinho played a few nice passes but was poor overall.  You can see he’s not quite on the same page as the other players which isn’t suprising.  He actually seemed to keep moving into he same space that Messi was occupying a few times. 

Three really good goals in this game and it is always fun to be in Camp Nou when Messi scores a game winner.

Yep, I noticed that on my stream also, hence why I initially thought he was playing in a free role because he kept drifting towards the center and left.

Definitely needs to train more with the team and in the formation Valverde wants to play.

[Suareznumber7]

Yep, I noticed that on my stream also, hence why I initially thought he was playing in a free role because he kept drifting towards the center and left.

Definitely needs to train more with the team and in the formation Valverde wants to play.

yeah, he'll obviously be fine once he has more time there.  The one thing that I was really impressed with, and I don't think you can really appreciate it until you see it live, is how good technically he is.

[disgraced cake]

Sevilla are shite. 4-1 down at Eibar. Look like the worst defence in La Liga besides Las Palmas at the minute

[redtel]

Sevilla are shite. 4-1 down at Eibar. Look like the worst defence in La Liga besides Las Palmas at the minute

Have Sevilla picked their strongest XI as they play a vital semi final 2ng leg next week in the Copa Del Ray?

Beat chance of winning something.

[Vinay]

yeah, he'll obviously be fine once he has more time there.  The one thing that I was really impressed with, and I don't think you can really appreciate it until you see it live, is how good technically he is.

Could you at least try to describe it? Is it his close control and the way he runs with the ball stuck to his feet?

[Vinay]

Whats up with Real Madrid?

[idontknow]

Whats up with Real Madrid?

This season in a technical how they play football sense, or generally how they are a big lump of an arrogant bullying corrupt semi-senile but very rich club?

[BobPaisley3]

Whats up with Real Madrid?

To be fair, they’re due an off season. Impossible to maintain the standards they’ve set over the last four years.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

To be fair, they’re due an off season. Impossible to maintain the standards they’ve set over the last four years.
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Their off season is quite something. Barca have had off seasons as well, but not to this extent. It was preventable, but they haven't bought a player in a long time for their standards.

[Suareznumber7]

Could you at least try to describe it? Is it his close control and the way he runs with the ball stuck to his feet?

Yeah, his close control, his ability to easily twist and turn away from defenders, but probably the thing that impressed me the most was how easily he hit curved passes with the outside of his foot which were perfectly weighted. Basically, he’s a really good fucking player.

[BobPaisley3]

To be fair, they’re due an off season. Impossible to maintain the standards they’ve set over the last four years.
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Their off season is quite something. Barca have had off seasons as well, but not to this extent. It was preventable, but they haven't bought a player in a long time for their standards.

They’ll still finish top 3 and they are through to the last 16 of the champions league. Yes it’s been a poor season but it’s not disastrous when you consider what other great clubs have been through lately. Us, Milan, Inter. I agree they’ve made some odd decisions in the transfer market but we don’t know if they’d been told to trim back to cover the cost of spending between 2009 and 2015. After winning the European cup three times in four years, it’s hard to improve on that. Hard to motivate yourself and those around you at training. All successful teams reach an end and this might be the of the Ronaldo, Ramos, Bale, Benzema, Modric vintage.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

They've sacked managers for less.


Levante equalize late, 2-2. Well deserved

[Chris~]

Lucky that sevilla have gone to shit as they should still stumble in to the champions league

[campioni]

They've sacked managers for less.


Levante equalize late, 2-2. Well deserved

Definitely deserved. They missed an absolute sitter a few minutes earlier. They’ve looked dangerous on the break but Madrid have been wide open.

[pinky]

Zero chance vs PSG

[oojason]

Messi on the bench for today's game vs Espanyol - 3.15pm ko...

Espanyol XI: Diego López; Navarro, Naldo, David López, Aaron; Granero, Víctor Sánchez, Jurado, Darder; Léo Baptistão, Gerard Moreno

Barcelona XI: Ter Stegen; Nelson Semedo, Pique, Umtiti, Lucas Digne; Coutinho, Paulinho, Busquets, Iniesta; F.Alcacer, Luis Suarez
Barcelona bench: Cillessen, I Rakitic, Denis Suárez, Messi, Jordi Alba, S. Roberto, Yerry Mina


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[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Anyone watching this? 0-0 so far. No Messi no party.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Coutinho hit the wood work.

[Vinay]

Barcelona dropping more points.....

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Barcelona dropping more points.....

They haven't lost a game yet.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

They haven't lost a game yet.

And just set a record for 22 games from the start of the season, unbeaten.

Don't think they're worried yet like

[elsewhere]

1-0 Atletico. Now they are a team to keep a lead and kill this match.

[Vinay]

1-0 Atletico. Now they are a team to keep a lead and kill this match.

Wish we can learn from them....

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Wish we can learn from them....

They play a different style of football under a manager who has a different philosophy all together. Of course we can get better and close out certain matches. But their prime focus is on defending. It's why they've only conceded 9 goals in 22 matches however they've only scored 32 goals as well, and it's why they won't win the league because they drop points as they are not consistently able to score more than one goal.

They've done well over the years to win the league and get to two European Cup finals [and could have won both].

However they in my opinion have reached their peak, and will not be able to replicate success unless they start taking some risks offensively.

[Gerry Attrick]

I don't think I'd love football very much if I had to watch Atletico every week. 42 total goals in 22 games is hideous from an entertainment standpoint. Even Burnley games have seen more goals.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

I don't think I'd love football very much if I had to watch Atletico every week. 42 total goals in 22 games is hideous from an entertainment standpoint. Even Burnley games have seen more goals.

and considering the players they have, it's even a bigger shame.

They are utterly dire to watch.

[Gerry Attrick]

and considering the players they have, it's even a bigger shame.

They are utterly dire to watch.

Yep, they've some quality attacking players that cost a lot of money. Simeone is clearly a very good coach but I sincerely hope he doesn't take a job in England.

[kloppismydad]

Yep, they've some quality attacking players that cost a lot of money. Simeone is clearly a very good coach but I sincerely hope he doesn't take a job in England.

It would be funny watching his tactics against the likes of Burnley, West Ham etc.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Barca's fans feel like we fooled them with Coutinho. He's not what they were expecting.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Barca's fans feel like we fooled them with Coutinho. He's not what they were expecting.

They're idiots. It's only been what 3 games and he's coming off from an injury. Spoiled lot that.