That's really what I said wasn't it?...If I can't trust them with seating, why the hell should I trust them with standing again?
Not really... you continue to draw a distinction between the safety of sitting and (inferior) safety of standing. I say if there is any difference at all, safe standing is safer and certainly safer than standing in seating areas.
The redevelopment over new stadium debate was dominated by money and was successful for that reason. The ‘morality’ of access for the ordinary fan and the emotion of ‘staying at home’ necessarily took second place. The morality of safety is to the forefront in the stadium debate now. This comes before getting a stadium that’s right emotionally and financially and very rightly so.
And the merit of safe standing in terms of safety has to be apparent to the satisfaction of all at the very start of that debate. All things then being equal in the safety debate, we can move on to how we enjoy the game and how our money helps the club.
Otherwise, we will lose out again - yes, a redevelopment is gradual but just like we would have blown income vital to the success of the club on a shiny gin palace in the park, we risk blowing millions building a 60,000 all-seater stadium and realising too late that it doesn’t work for you and me and everyone else that believes in the ‘spirit of the Kop’ (unity, togetherness, family) and thinks a minimum of £45 for all to go to a football match is ridiculous.
In short, it's a massive leap forward to redevelop rather than build new but do we really want Anfield to continue to go upmarket? Once that ball starts to roll, it's going to be pretty hard to stop.
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BTW perhaps one-sixth for abusing the rules but just to be clear, standing and safe standing can accommodate about 1.8 to 1.9 times as many people as seating.
And having stood on the safe standing mockup... you are close to the next person. For some it would be too close but it’s not as close as the middle of the old kop. Each row is 28 places long and two rows high - bunching would be readily spotted (and tickets checked - and ‘extras’ thrown out). As I say, it’s all down to sticking to systems. Sitting or Standing.
I must check what the penalty for allowing too many people into the ground is... but I bet they’re pretty severe.