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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1160 on: July 30, 2021, 07:52:09 pm »
Mo's shoulders look like bowling balls
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1161 on: July 30, 2021, 07:57:11 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LwhmG443KU

An anecdotal observation - the first 4 players that celebrated with him. Christ, levels and levels below :)

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1162 on: July 30, 2021, 08:32:38 pm »
An anecdotal observation - the first 4 players that celebrated with him. Christ, levels and levels below :)

what'ya talking about. N'gog is  a well known giant of the game. Huge player. Famous for coming up big under pressure. .
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1163 on: July 30, 2021, 08:46:12 pm »
An anecdotal observation - the first 4 players that celebrated with him. Christ, levels and levels below :)

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1164 on: July 30, 2021, 09:04:22 pm »
An anecdotal observation - the first 4 players that celebrated with him. Christ, levels and levels below :)

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1165 on: July 30, 2021, 09:25:55 pm »


I hope, based on this picture that
- Mo has been improving his diving. If Jack Grealish is joining City and Bruno already king of divers at Utd, he has his work cut out
- Ox is getting used to playing (backip) right full back.
Edit: Used to playing. Anywhere. Uninjured.
- Trent and Andy are enjoying being out of their natural positions. Last time that's happening. Back to RWB and LWB every game from here.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1166 on: July 31, 2021, 12:55:15 am »
what'ya talking about. N'gog is  a well known giant of the game. Huge player. Famous for coming up big under pressure. .

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1167 on: July 31, 2021, 02:02:50 am »
I've noticed an increasing trend the last 12 months or so of strikers going for goal from acute angles in the box. Suarez was a pioneer (that goal at Sunderland). Usually they go high at the first post. This one was high at the second. But it will happen more and more. Goalies will have to adapt I think.

I think you mean Stevie Heighway
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1168 on: July 31, 2021, 09:24:39 am »
I think you mean Stevie Heighway

Great goals, but always on the ground wren't they?  And at a far less acute angle. Even at the time you thought 'what was Bob Wilson doing there, leaving that massive gap at the near post?'

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1169 on: July 31, 2021, 09:30:15 am »
Mo's shoulders look like bowling balls

You should see his pins.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1170 on: July 31, 2021, 10:24:14 am »
What's the deal with the 2 friendlies on 8th/9th August, is one going to be more second string players?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1171 on: July 31, 2021, 12:51:22 pm »
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Alisson, Fabinho and Roberto Firmino will begin pre-season training on Sunday.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1172 on: July 31, 2021, 01:26:03 pm »
What's the deal with the 2 friendlies on 8th/9th August, is one going to be more second string players?

If it’s like when they did 2 matches in 2 days vs Barcelona and Mainz a few seasons back it would be, one very strong team, one with more 2nd string.

Although of coures, they could just mix and match!  But I’d sort of hope the first game would be a starting line up close to what the first league game of the season would be.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1173 on: July 31, 2021, 03:10:26 pm »
Alisson, Fabinho and Roberto Firmino will begin pre-season training on Sunday.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1174 on: July 31, 2021, 07:52:22 pm »
What’s the deal with ground capacity this season? Everyone back all in?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1175 on: July 31, 2021, 08:03:40 pm »
What’s the deal with ground capacity this season? Everyone back all in?

Yep. Its going to be great to see.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1176 on: July 31, 2021, 08:39:19 pm »
Yep. Its going to be great to see.

I honestly dont think I could've gone another season without.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1177 on: August 1, 2021, 01:11:12 pm »


Which players have gone back home then?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1178 on: August 1, 2021, 01:23:35 pm »
Many of the Academy lads. No one named yet.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1179 on: August 1, 2021, 01:25:56 pm »
When did they add the Bologna FC  games? Didn’t even notice that

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1180 on: August 1, 2021, 01:50:34 pm »
When did they add the Bologna FC  games? Didn’t even notice that

Klopp announced them in his pre-match interview on Thursday I think.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1181 on: August 1, 2021, 03:32:40 pm »
When do we play again?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1182 on: August 1, 2021, 03:45:35 pm »
When do we play again?

Thursday.

They play two 60 minute games vs Bologna.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1183 on: August 1, 2021, 04:21:02 pm »
Did anyone who got the free month LFC tv trial and has cancelled it also get a 1 quid charge? Saw it in my bank statement. Not that I'm going to cry over a quid but at no point does it say you will pay any fee when you cancel. Cheeky from the club.
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1184 on: August 1, 2021, 04:23:30 pm »
Did anyone who got the free month LFC tv trial and has cancelled it also get a 1 quid charge? Saw it in my bank statement. Not that I'm going to cry over a quid but at no point does it say you will pay any fee when you cancel. Cheeky from the club.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1185 on: August 1, 2021, 04:50:30 pm »
It all goes towards the Mbappe fund.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1186 on: August 1, 2021, 04:54:59 pm »


N'gog really has let himself go, hasn't he?
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1187 on: August 1, 2021, 05:24:06 pm »
Thursday.

They play two 60 minute games vs Bologna.

Ofgs typical when I'm not home!  What time do they kick off see if I can catch them at the hotel?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1188 on: August 1, 2021, 05:29:41 pm »
Ofgs typical when I'm not home!  What time do they kick off see if I can catch them at the hotel?

First one is 3pm, 2nd game is 5pm!

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1189 on: August 1, 2021, 05:32:00 pm »
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1190 on: August 1, 2021, 05:50:58 pm »
Mbappe's right boot?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1191 on: August 1, 2021, 06:02:09 pm »
Did anyone who got the free month LFC tv trial and has cancelled it also get a 1 quid charge? Saw it in my bank statement. Not that I'm going to cry over a quid but at no point does it say you will pay any fee when you cancel. Cheeky from the club.

It happened to me. It gets refunded after a week, I think it is to confirm it is an active card

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1192 on: August 1, 2021, 07:12:01 pm »
Jürgen Klopp exclusive | Brazilian trio, Bologna friendlies and squad ping-pong battle

3h ago

Jürgen Klopp sat down with Liverpoolfc.com in Evian on Sunday to provide fresh insight on Liverpool's pre-season training camp and preview the upcoming friendlies with Bologna.

The Reds have been boosted in France by Alisson Becker, Roberto Firmino and Fabinho after they returned from their summer breaks following the Copa America.

The boss revealed the Brazilian trio could feature when his squad contest Serie A opposition in two 60-minute matches on Thursday, while also explaining the reasoning behind the hour-long games.

You're away for a long time as a group – is one of the benefits of switching to Evian a chance for a change of scenery and to freshen things up for everyone?

Oh yeah, we had to. I never did it before. I said it before, never a four-week camp; never a three-week camp actually. And after two weeks we changed scenery, then after the next week again. That's important. But we were not for one second abroad for changing scenery constantly, we could have done that in England obviously as well. I think everybody knows we had to do it, from our point of view, to be in the bubble and that we can welcome all the players in the bubble from wherever they came and they don't have to quarantine and all these kind of things. They arrive here, get tested, all these kinds of things – and then we can focus on training. We didn't see any other chance for us to do it in that way, that's why we are now a little bit on tour, LFC on tour. Now we are in Evian and all good.

How challenging is it to keep a group happy for so long, especially when you've got so much work to do?

So, in Germany you say: I don't want to praise the day before the night. So, we are three weeks here and it was perfect so far, but there is still a week to go and maybe now they turn nuts or whatever! I don't know! But so far it was not too challenging, to be honest. We thought a lot about what we can do, what we have to do. We did some things – we had quiz nights, we had some other silly stuff which we did together. And still the big ping-pong tournament, everybody is waiting for – probably they train the whole day! So that will come up. We have other stuff organised, interesting things where the boys will get some entertainment and information and hopefully some interesting stuff which will help us for the future. That's what you do. We train a lot, then the boys sleep hopefully at least a lot and get proper food. And so far the pre-season was really OK.

Who would you put your money on for the ping-pong tournament?

I forget these things [but] 100 per cent not on me. I think Mo wins quite regularly, if I'm 100 per cent right together with Ox last year. You must be lucky with the draw, that's how it is unfortunately – if you are a very good player together with one of the staff then no chance! The boys are pretty much all pretty good. But the good feeling about that tournament is you have to carry your partner through the tournament as well.

That was like a proper football answer, the same kind of answer I would have got after a Champions League draw…

I would say in the ping-pong tournament you need to be even more lucky. Really. If you get the wrong partner... you know with table tennis: it's you shoot, he shoots, you shoot. It's a 50 per cent chance the ball flies through the room. That happens quite often.

I like how serious this is being taken…

Yeah, it is quite serious, I would say. It was very serious with the quiz night, very serious. The team who lost, the last thing they wanted to do that night was to lose. The difference between football and that quiz night was nobody wanted to be last – nobody can tell you who won, but everybody can tell you who lost that night. So that will probably be similar.

You're having players come back bit by bit. The Brazilian guys are back now – how do you work to integrate them into the group now?

It's a challenge for us, you can imagine. Last week, I think Shaq, Diogo, Robbo, Thiago – not the same day but in the same week at least – came back. Now the Brazilians. I saw them this morning already but I spoke only a few words because they had still holidays, they had to do the lactate test yesterday because they had to run anyway. That's how it is. They will start tomorrow with training properly with us. That's then pretty much we are nearly complete. Hendo will not be here probably until the end, he will get included in England. But that's all planned like this. It's a challenge every year. Every year. We work on so many things and then the new boys come, then the next boys come in and you think, 'OK, by the way, so far we did and so on.' In a specific point we have them all together and prepare for the season. But it's always the same and so, normal business.

The season is under two weeks away now. Is it difficult to try to plan to have these guys involved at that point? Or will they have enough time?

No, they never have enough time. The players who play international football never have enough time, that was always like this. This year was the best year, though, but they never have enough time. You never have enough time to train and stuff like this – a week, two weeks before the season. So the Brazilians now, two weeks. I think last year it was 10 days, if I'm 100 per cent right, for the first game. But nobody listens about that, nobody is interested in that – we just carry on like this and everybody expects in the end kind of perfect-tuned football teams. There will be a moment in the season when that happens but in the beginning it's pretty much for all teams the same, so it's a fair competition. It just means we are all in the same place. We have to make sure we can win football games, we don't have to play the best football in the world, we just have to win football games. Then step by step, finding our way again and that will happen for sure.

But in the beginning especially, for the boys it's not easy but that's how it is. The good thing is in three weeks' holiday you don't lose a lot. They don't have three weeks' no training – I say that every year as well. But after 10 days, they start already with training again, just not football with us. So, they are fit, they don't lose a lot and we can use them pretty quickly in the games. That's why we planned it like this. Maybe on Thursday in our two 60-minute games against Bologna we can involve them already, I don't know yet – maybe 15, 20, 30 minutes. We have to see how they look exactly. Then we come home and obviously we still plan football games, so we have the two games at Anfield. There's one team who plays that game and it's maybe more likely, I don't know yet, for the weekend later and the other team who came a little bit later then they will play the second game – so everybody has 90 minutes in their legs. Then we play the first game against Norwich, then we probably have again a pre-season training game on Sunday at Kirkby or wherever, just to try to give them all a chance to get some rhythm. That's how it is.

How do you approach the two games on Thursday against Bologna – two different teams?

Yeah, that's the plan. For sure now we have enough players who have to play 60 minutes, that's clear. But we have some, they are maybe not allowed or should not play a full 60, so some will play 30, this kind of stuff. It was just like this: we have for sure a team who could now play 90 minutes but it doesn't make massive sense to do it already, to push through. What we did this year was slightly different from other years. I think everybody knows we train what we have to do and then you play the games on top of that, but usually the next day when you play 45 early or 60 minutes early in the pre-season then you have to calm down a little bit in training and we didn't do that this year. We just could go through intensity-wise, which helped, I think, a lot. So, now we have the double 60 – I really like that, Bologna was fine with it as well. So, all good and then on the weekend – Sunday, Monday – two big games at Anfield.

The good attacking play in the last game against Hertha BSC – is that what you want to see again and just be a little tighter at the back?

We have to improve in all departments, of course. We played some really good stuff, that's true, but if we didn't score from it, who cares? That's football. For not losing football games you have to make sure that you don't concede goals. The goals [against] were easy to explain, why they got it, and probably to explain as well why the players involved in the goal were not where they maybe should have been. I absolutely prefer to make these kind of mistakes in pre-season because you can talk about it, it's easy; yes, we criticise it, but not in the manner where we say on top of that we lost three very important points. It is just a pre-season game, make the analysis and carry on.

It is clear we have to improve; we have to improve offensively as well. But from a formation point of view – how compact the formation is and so on – we have some space [to improve], but that's always the same. When I look back at the years, it was always learning defending again, like pressing again, is as much to do with timing. Timing has to do with a clear brain and fresh legs, but you never have [them] – fresh legs especially – in the pre-season. It is pretty much not possible, but you still want it. In training it looks good and when we don't do it for 45 minutes, just like two or three or four minutes, and really adjust in the right way then it looks good and so I am happy with it, we have to just make sure we get the right mindset for the first game because that's the biggest difference – it's not a pre-season friendly anymore, we have to go with all we have. We only do all of these things because we want to win football games – we want to win many football games – and win something special.

Virgil and Joe, are they ready to play again, and maybe play more minutes?

Hopefully, yes. That's how it looks in the moment. I want to make it really clear, we push nothing. We just don't. We wait a little bit, the players come, we have now with Dr Andreas Schlumberger a real specialist who is in constant talks and always observing everything. We know exactly how they feel – how they really feel and not what they tell us because they obviously are desperate to play again. It looks good, this morning [it was a] normal training session. Sometimes in moments we swap Virgil and Joe a little bit so maybe the intensity doesn't get too high, but in general it looks really good. How many minutes on Thursday, I don't know but there will be some minutes for sure.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/439544-jurgen-klopp-exclusive-brazilian-trio-bologna-friendlies-and-squad-ping-pong-battle


Great to have Brazilians and Thiago back but I'm surprised Henderson isn't going to Evian. He hardly played in the Euros so I'm not sure why he ain't meeting up with the squad until they arrive back in the UK.

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1193 on: August 1, 2021, 08:20:55 pm »
First one is 3pm, 2nd game is 5pm!

Great so I'll miss both then 😡

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1194 on: August 1, 2021, 08:55:20 pm »
So I assume the two 60 minute games against Bologna will be 30 minute halves. Probably play our fittest/strongest 11 in the first game and use the second game to give minutes to those who need it.
 

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1195 on: August 1, 2021, 09:20:57 pm »
20 x 30minutes games, followed by three rounds of knockout pairs and then a game of 60 seconds.
 
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1196 on: August 1, 2021, 09:28:12 pm »
The game on the 8th at Anfield who are Athletic Club ?
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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1197 on: August 1, 2021, 09:34:35 pm »
The game on the 8th at Anfield who are Athletic Club ?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1198 on: August 1, 2021, 10:22:42 pm »
The game on the 8th at Anfield who are Athletic Club ?

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Re: Pre-Season 2021/22 Thread
« Reply #1199 on: August 1, 2021, 10:32:19 pm »
I love how the intensity of this pre season has slowly built up gradually.

Two 30 minute games for two different teams.
45 mins for two teams against Mainz.
A few given 45 against Hertha whilst others got closer to 60 and also the chance to re-introduce Virg and Gomez for 20 mins.

Now expecting a full 60 for quite a few players with maybe the one's who aren't up to speed as much subbing in and out for 30 mins or so.

Then finally getting a few close to a full 90 for the Anfield games.