Topic: Jürgen Klopp

[Oldmanmick]

Any so called 'Liverpool fan' who is even considering getting rid of Klopp must be a thick twat.

[Kennys from heaven]

Any so called 'Liverpool fan' who is even considering getting rid of Klopp must be a thick twat.

My response to anyone who says this is: "I'm so glad, that Jurgen is a Red"

I have been utterly appalled and sickened at hearing some say he should leave or be sacked from so-called fans - Disgusting. They're not thick twats though. They're worse.

What's making it worse is the media gleefully lumping in as well. Made the mistake of listening to Tawkshite last night on the press conference and how "Jurgen lost it"... One so-called "fan" (so blatantly obvious he wasn't, or is he was, then he's like you said, a thick twat) said Jurgen was an embarressment for biting and the press were in their rights to ask the questions that they want as it's what us fans want to hear?!?!?!?!?!?!

Some (most) of the questions that are asked are pure fishbait and hugely cringeworthy, designed only to elicit a response that will give them a backpage headline. They bear no relation to the actual game, state the fucking obvious and are purely there to ensure that the salt is being rubbed in the wound constantly.

Jurgen Klopp has been the most successful manager of this football club in over 30 years, achieveing phenominal results in the face of adverstiy to boot. The same question to these pricks stand as it always does: Who would you replace Jurgen Klopp with?" (Irony of ironies, the same question remains unanswered when it comes to FSG, but that's a who different nest of vipers to jump into)

[Legs]

My question to anyone who wants Klopp gone is who replaces him ?

We have seen this when Rafa got sacked and in walked Hodgson.

I think he could be a touch more ruthless with players and he is baring his teeth abit more.

All I hear on media is Fergie/Pep would get rid of XYZ yes they would but they have the pick of players & far bigger budgets put Pep in charge of West Ham / Spurs then lets see how easy it is then.

It dont help that Sky is like MUTV might as well sack off Stelling bring in Goldstein the prick

[Syntexity]

Anyone who is even thinking that letting Klopp go can do one. They cannot call themselves fans or supporters of this club, they are just egoistic morons who think only about what they themselves get. Fuck’em. The only people in this universe who should have any valid opinion on this is the man himself and his family.

Critic and pointing out things and discussing what can improve, thats fine. Its all part of football that all have opinions on different stuff and have a need to discuss it. But when it comes to discussing the futre of a living legend managing us who has given us so much. So so much. And who is also still so motivated to make this club competitive. Even thinking that he should leave is treason as a supporter of this club. If you need to have the drama of changing managers all the time you can support Everton, Chelsea or something of that ilk.

[The G in Gerrard]

My question to anyone who wants Klopp gone is who replaces him ?

No legit Liverpool supporter could be asking that question.

[Knight]

There’s definitely a conversation to be had about whether Klopp’s lost the dressing room or simply isn’t able to get his message over anymore. I think all Liverpool fans should want us to replace every Liverpool player who’s been around for 2 or so years and keep Klopp so he can work with a new group of players he can communicate his message too. However, that’s not very realistic without a sport washing owner, which we definitely don’t want. If anyone can turn this round, Klopp can. But there are reasons beyond simply knee jerk impatience that causes managers to get the chop when things are going wrong. The reality is, it’s the easiest way to make genuine changes. You can’t change almost en entire squad in a year or so. You can change the manager and back room staff. Fortunately for us, now CL football is basically gone there’s very little to gain by bringing in a new manager - who’s guaranteed to be a worse coach than Klopp.

[Egyptian36]

My question to anyone who wants Klopp gone is who replaces him ?

We have seen this when Rafa got sacked and in walked Hodgson.

I think he could be a touch more ruthless with players and he is baring his teeth abit more.

All I hear on media is Fergie/Pep would get rid of XYZ yes they would but they have the pick of players & far bigger budgets put Pep in charge of West Ham / Spurs then lets see how easy it is then.

It dont help that Sky is like MUTV might as well sack off Stelling bring in Goldstein the prick

Fuck them fake fans. What matters is what Klopp sees from the people attending games.

[FlashGordon]

There’s definitely a conversation to be had about whether Klopp’s lost the dressing room or simply isn’t able to get his message over anymore. I think all Liverpool fans should want us to replace every Liverpool player who’s been around for 2 or so years and keep Klopp so he can work with a new group of players he can communicate his message too. However, that’s not very realistic without a sport washing owner, which we definitely don’t want. If anyone can turn this round, Klopp can. But there are reasons beyond simply knee jerk impatience that causes managers to get the chop when things are going wrong. The reality is, it’s the easiest way to make genuine changes. You can’t change almost en entire squad in a year or so. You can change the manager and back room staff. Fortunately for us, now CL football is basically gone there’s very little to gain by bringing in a new manager - who’s guaranteed to be a worse coach than Klopp.

The easiest yet most destructive. I'd take a year or two in the doldrums with Klopp while he rebuilds the team and then go again before ever thinking of getting rid of him.

[Oldmanmick]

My response to anyone who says this is: "I'm so glad, that Jurgen is a Red"

I have been utterly appalled and sickened at hearing some say he should leave or be sacked from so-called fans - Disgusting. They're not thick twats though. They're worse.

What's making it worse is the media gleefully lumping in as well. Made the mistake of listening to Tawkshite last night on the press conference and how "Jurgen lost it"... One so-called "fan" (so blatantly obvious he wasn't, or is he was, then he's like you said, a thick twat) said Jurgen was an embarressment for biting and the press were in their rights to ask the questions that they want as it's what us fans want to hear?!?!?!?!?!?!

Some (most) of the questions that are asked are pure fishbait and hugely cringeworthy, designed only to elicit a response that will give them a backpage headline. They bear no relation to the actual game, state the fucking obvious and are purely there to ensure that the salt is being rubbed in the wound constantly.

Jurgen Klopp has been the most successful manager of this football club in over 30 years, achieveing phenominal results in the face of adverstiy to boot. The same question to these pricks stand as it always does: Who would you replace Jurgen Klopp with?" (Irony of ironies, the same question remains unanswered when it comes to FSG, but that's a who different nest of vipers to jump into)

Bill Shankly went 7 years (1966 - 1973) without winning a trophy. This after getting us out of the old 2nd division & then winning 2 league titles & our first ever FA Cup. I don't recall even one Liverpool supporter ever questioning his position at the club. It was the same in the media, there was no sniping by pricks with an agenda because Shanks was revered by everyone for what he'd achieved at our club. The same should apply to Jurgen Klopp.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

There’s definitely a conversation to be had about whether Klopp’s lost the dressing room or simply isn’t able to get his message over anymore. I think all Liverpool fans should want us to replace every Liverpool player who’s been around for 2 or so years and keep Klopp so he can work with a new group of players he can communicate his message too. However, that’s not very realistic without a sport washing owner, which we definitely don’t want. If anyone can turn this round, Klopp can. But there are reasons beyond simply knee jerk impatience that causes managers to get the chop when things are going wrong. The reality is, it’s the easiest way to make genuine changes. You can’t change almost en entire squad in a year or so. You can change the manager and back room staff. Fortunately for us, now CL football is basically gone there’s very little to gain by bringing in a new manager - who’s guaranteed to be a worse coach than Klopp.

Im not sure I agree. The only people wanting that conversation are people with articles to write or airtime to fill. I’d prefer to let him get on with the job.
None of our players have the right to turn on Klopp. They owe him their careers and medal collections.

[Aeon]

"Lost the dressing room". BUHAHAHAHahahaha, Are you sure you are not confusing Liverpool with plastic chelshit or something equally disgusting?
lost who exactly? Some burden running down contracts and looking forward to leave?

If Klopp has lost the dressing room, I'd suggest to demolish the dressing room and never use one again.

[bird_lfc]

He's made mistakes this season but everyone does. As far as i'm concerned his got unlimited money in the bank and i'd soon build a team almost from scratch again then lose him in his final years with us.

[Solomon Grundy]

There’s definitely a conversation to be had about whether Klopp’s lost the dressing room or simply isn’t able to get his message over anymore.

No, there isn't.

[Ghost Town]

There’s definitely a conversation to be had about whether Klopp’s lost the dressing room or simply isn’t able to get his message over anymore. I think all Liverpool fans should want us to replace every Liverpool player who’s been around for 2 or so years and keep Klopp so he can work with a new group of players he can communicate his message too. However, that’s not very realistic without a sport washing owner, which we definitely don’t want. If anyone can turn this round, Klopp can. But there are reasons beyond simply knee jerk impatience that causes managers to get the chop when things are going wrong. The reality is, it’s the easiest way to make genuine changes. You can’t change almost en entire squad in a year or so. You can change the manager and back room staff. Fortunately for us, now CL football is basically gone there’s very little to gain by bringing in a new manager - who’s guaranteed to be a worse coach than Klopp.

Ever get that feeling that you're all alone and people are pointing and laughing? Or shaking their heads?

[Caligula?]

Ever get that feeling that you're all alone and people are pointing and laughing? Or shaking their heads?

Why are yo so angry all the time? Smh

[Ghost Town]

Why are yo so angry all the time? Smh

I can't tell yo

smb

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

^ Ghost could have been angrier to be fair.
What type of Liverpool fan would come out with that?
I hope no one comes out with the old entitled to an opinion line either.

Yet again some of our fans come on here repeating the shite that the media deliberately stir up. They don’t learn.

[Hazell]

There's definitely a conversation to be had about how Ghost Town is so angry all the time.

[Ghost Town]

There's definitely a conversation to be had about how Ghost Town is so angry all the time.

If you do, I'll down tools!

[Knight]

Why are yo so angry all the time? Smh

Well quite.

I could find plenty of posts on here in post game threads asking the question. But apparently even raising it as something to talk about is beyond the pale. Ghost Town, as you might say, you don’t help yourself.

[Knight]

^ Ghost could have been angrier to be fair.
What type of Liverpool fan would come out with that?
I hope no one comes out with the old entitled to an opinion line either.

Yet again some of our fans come on here repeating the shite that the media deliberately stir up. They don’t learn.

It wasn’t an opinion. It was raising it as a conversation. That’s very much not the same thing. And even if it were, the idea that, ‘I don’t think Klopp can communicate his message to the players effectively anymore’ is some outrageous, shouldn’t be allowed to be shared, opinion is such a tiresome attitude. You may well disagree with it but it is a potential reading of the evidence we have. ‘Lost the dressing room’ is obviously going further and I’d have really big questions of anyone who said they thought it was what has happened but again, these sorts of performances and results are what happens when a manager has lost his players. If it were another club, we’d be saying it.

[FlashGordon]

It wasn’t an opinion. It was raising it as a conversation. That’s very much not the same thing.

It's an easy cop out if it's called out as shit you mean.

[Knight]

It's an easy cop out if it's called out as shit you mean.

No it’s literally what I wrote. Forums rely on reading comprehension and people interpreting in good faith.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

It wasn’t an opinion. It was raising it as a conversation. That’s very much not the same thing.

Why did you raise it though?
If you sit down and think about what’s happened for more than about a minute, you’d realise that there’s no simple answer behind our decline this season, it’s more likely to be a combination of things. But the best you can come up with is whether he’s lost the dressing room or the players have grown tired of him.
It’s fucking laughable, it’s like you’ve copied the type of drivel the likes of talk sport use to drum up callers for their shitty little programmes.
Not only is it laughable, it’s massively disrespectful to a man who’s brought us moments many of us thought we’d never see again.
But you go ahead, raise it as a conversation.

[Knight]

The easiest yet most destructive. I'd take a year or two in the doldrums with Klopp while he rebuilds the team and then go again before ever thinking of getting rid of him.

Yes I completely agree. Especially given our issues with the hierarchy above Klopp sacking him would be a disaster.

[Knight]

Why did you raise it though?
If you sit down and think about what’s happened for more than about a minute, you’d realise that there’s no simple answer behind our decline this season, it’s more likely to be a combination of things. But the best you can come up with is whether he’s lost the dressing room or the players have grown tired of him.
It’s fucking laughable, it’s like you’ve copied the type of drivel the likes of talk sport use to drum up callers for their shitty little programmes.
Not only is it laughable, it’s massively disrespectful to a man who’s brought us moments many of us thought we’d never see again.
But you go ahead, raise it as a conversation.

I’ve made loads of posts about our issues this season. I bleat ok about our failure to buy midfielders far more than is reasonable for anyone to read. How you get this from what I’ve actually said is remarkable.

I raised it because it was triggered by the comments about muppets wanting him sacked. And my post makes very clear we shouldn’t sack him or want him sacked!

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

Don’t backtrack now. You raised it and said there was a conversation to be had.
Rather than filter out the dickheads you just amplified them with starting your post the way you did.

[Knight]

Don’t backtrack now. You raised it and said there was a conversation to be had.
Rather than filter out the dickheads you just amplified them with starting your post the way you did.

Backtracking? I think the conversation is worth having. In no sense am I backtracking.

[Lycan]

It isn't. He hasn't lost the dressing room.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

Backtracking? I think the conversation is worth having. In no sense am I backtracking.

Still? Well good luck then, but judging by the responses to your comment you won’t be having the conversation round here.

If you honestly think it’s a worthwhile conversation then I can’t help you. Sad indictment of our fan base though.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I’ve made loads of posts about our issues this season. I bleat ok about our failure to buy midfielders far more than is reasonable for anyone to read. How you get this from what I’ve actually said is remarkable.

I raised it because it was triggered by the comments about muppets wanting him sacked. And my post makes very clear we shouldn’t sack him or want him sacked!

Yet you want to talk about it ?

[Hazell]

If you do, I'll down tools!

Not saying you are or anything, I just think it's a conversation worth having.

[Kennys from heaven]

Bill Shankly went 7 years (1966 - 1973) without winning a trophy. This after getting us out of the old 2nd division & then winning 2 league titles & our first ever FA Cup. I don't recall even one Liverpool supporter ever questioning his position at the club. It was the same in the media, there was no sniping by pricks with an agenda because Shanks was revered by everyone for what he'd achieved at our club. The same should apply to Jurgen Klopp.

Exactly right mate. No more to say

[Dave McCoy]

So what is Klopp referencing when he said he’s tired of “if’s” and that it’s now February? That the players are doing exactly what he wants? Debating if “lost the dressing room” is appropriate or not seems a bit pointless when the boss himself is clearly indicating the players aren’t doing what is asked of them and there is no more excuses to be had for why. The players can’t or won’t do what the boss is asking anymore whether it’s intentional or not.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I love the xenophobic German prick & I'll love him until the day I die.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

So what is Klopp referencing when he said he’s tired of “if’s” and that it’s now February? That the players are doing exactly what he wants? Debating if “lost the dressing room” is appropriate or not seems a bit pointless when the boss himself is clearly indicating the players aren’t doing what is asked of them and there is no more excuses to be had for why. The players can’t or won’t do what the boss is asking anymore whether it’s intentional or not.

[Ghost Town]

So what is Klopp referencing when he said he’s tired of “if’s” and that it’s now February? That the players are doing exactly what he wants? Debating if “lost the dressing room” is appropriate or not seems a bit pointless when the boss himself is clearly indicating the players aren’t doing what is asked of them and there is no more excuses to be had for why. The players can’t or won’t do what the boss is asking anymore whether it’s intentional or not.

Hmm can anyone be this dim?

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[Dave McCoy]

Hmm can anyone be this dim?

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[Redbonnie]

If you want to know how much of a mistake it is to bin off Klopp…look at who would be snapping our hand off to take him next.  There isn’t a team that wouldn’t want him and I include City in that because he has won the champions league and his teams play entertaining football.

[Ghost Town]