Topic: Jürgen Klopp

[24/7]

BBC article this morning discussing the various sackings and threats thereof points out that Klopp is currently the longest-serving Premier League manager of the current bunch. Pep is behind slightly but may well about to become the longest-serving Championship manager....... 

[PIPA23]

we have the best coach in world football and one of the best there ever was.

City titles mean nothing. Guardiola could never achieve what Klopp did if provided the same resources or if we would swap them.

[Son of Spion]

I wonder if the fact that Abu Dhabi's systematic, industrial scale cheating has now been exposed to a wider audience will see Klopp looking and feeling a bit more invigorated?

It must be horribly draining knowing full well you've been trying to compete in sport that's so clearly and disgustingly rigged. Even just as fans looking on, it's been massively emotionally sapping. A lot of fans love for the game has been eaten away as a fantastic team has been cheated out of what it so richly deserved. Goodness only knows how Klopp and the squad have felt.

I'd say the situation has clearly disillusioned FSG too. Seeing it all seemingly going unaddressed must have been crushing so, hopefully, now it's being exposed fully it might just put a spring in the step of Klopp and the club generally. Maybe, just maybe the game can be brought back from the brink and rescued after all? And maybe that could light a fire within us once more too.

[Barneylfc∗]

we have the best coach in world football and one of the best there ever was.

City titles mean nothing. Guardiola could never achieve what Klopp did if provided the same resources or if we would swap them.

It's bonkers to think how dominant we would be under Jurgen if we had access to those kind of funds. Wouldn't be a stretch to suggest we'd have won every league since 2018 and have got over the line in the 2 European Cup finals we lost.

[jillcwhomever]

It's bonkers to think how dominant we would be under Jurgen if we had access to those kind of funds. Wouldn't be a stretch to suggest we'd have won every league since 2018 and have got over the line in the 2 European Cup finals we lost.

Say nothing of a title and a Champions League in the same season. It's so annoying.

[MD1990]

hopefully a banner for him Monday.

[na fir dearg]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/07/jurgen-klopp-liverpool-strange-ritualistic-power-of-the-press-conference

Jürgen Klopp and the strange ritualistic power of the press conference

ugghhh what a sniveling shite article that is

[lukeb1981]

Hopefully this news is a bit of a shot in the arm to the squad. Must be seriously deflating to give your all each year and just come up a hair short .

[Dim Glas]

Hopefully this news is a bit of a shot in the arm to the squad. Must be seriously deflating to give your all each year and just come up a hair short .

I dunno if it’d a shot in the arm, it’d make me even more fucked off (as it has!). Knowing what they’ve missed out on over the years, having given absolutely everything for, and knowing they are never going to get those seasons’ over again or the chance to try and emulate it again.

[ianburns252]

And yet when we were winning everything no one said "Wow Klopp is amazing, he's so geeat I think he should have at least one more season!!!" because it's just not the type of language you use with someone you want to stay longterm.

There's a wide gulf of nuance between plain dictionary definition and real world usage.

However, the poster has since clarified their view so all is cool

Maybe it is just me but I don't read the term "at least" as being loaded.

I would probably use it that way myself to be honest but I get where you are coming from - not insinuating anything but with the shite being tlaked recently I can understand being defensive of Klopp (as I am too) and maybe seeing the worst in what people are saying.

[lionel_messias]

Alright alright I have just seen Didi Hamman having a go at Klopp over James Pearce-gate:

Fuck me, I was wrong on that one. Not being on the same side as Didi Hamman.

[PaulF]

It's bonkers to think how dominant we would be under Jurgen if we had access to those kind of funds. Wouldn't be a stretch to suggest we'd have won every league since 2018 and have got over the line in the 2 European Cup finals we lost.

Not much point in saying we would have more Cl. City didn't deny us those. We just weren't good enough to beat real. If we say they are state sponsored too, that's a lot of cl to redistribute.

[Red Giant]

Not much point in saying we would have more Cl. City didn't deny us those. We just weren't good enough to beat real. If we say they are state sponsored too, that's a lot of cl to redistribute.

He said IF we had the same resources as City

[rob1966]

Not much point in saying we would have more Cl. City didn't deny us those. We just weren't good enough to beat real. If we say they are state sponsored too, that's a lot of cl to redistribute.

We were pushing on all fronts. Last season we finished 18 pts clear of Chelsea, we could have throttled back and rejuvenated for the CL final. Also 2019, we lost the league by a point, 25 clear of Chelsea, we would have had a League/CL double.

[mickl]

I’m with Jürgen till I die.

End of.

[meady1981]

Literally the only thing that’s kept me interested in football for the last 7 years. The last vestige of the broken game I once adored. Morally, philosophically and on a human level. Hard to see me carrying on other than a brief look at the scores if he goes.

[gray19lfc]

hopefully a banner for him Monday.

“As always, we are focussing on supporting our manager”

[semit5]

I dunno if it’d a shot in the arm, it’d make me even more fucked off (as it has!). Knowing what they’ve missed out on over the years, having given absolutely everything for, and knowing they are never going to get those seasons’ over again or the chance to try and emulate it again.

The players will have been well aware that City were cheating, they will have known as much if not more than we did. The only thing that has changed is the outside world will now be paying more attention to what should have been common knowledge, and they may get more respect for the last 5 years or so of graft.

If it makes them angry then that can only be a good thing. I think this could be a big turning point for the season and hopefully fires a rocket up the clubs backside

[Bullet500]

https://twitter.com/bryansgunn/status/1623219740180111361

[Black Bull Nova]

Jurgen Klopp at Liverpool since 15/16


3 PL wins
1 CL win
1 FA cup
2 EFL cups
1 Super Cup
1 World Club
2 Charity Shields


Not bad that

[Black Bull Nova]

https://twitter.com/bryansgunn/status/1623219740180111361

Never slipped on a banana in my life (so far)

[Hazell]

https://twitter.com/bryansgunn/status/1623219740180111361

Souness at the end

[BigRedFeetBed]

I dont trigger easily but very little boils my piss more than that amoebic biproduct of savage animal buggery masquerading as a fat carrot, Richard Keys!

Just read excerpts from his piece slamming the boss in a rag that shall not be named today. Honestly..I cant even begin to describe the utter fucking hatred I have for that c*nt!..and some people (also c*nts) still buy into what this fucker says.
 

[bornandbRED]

Have the players downed tools to some extent? Thinking about how different Everton look now that Dyche is there vs Lampard. Exasperation with management for whatever reason can explain a lot… and maybe explains some of the noises around Kornmayer/Ljinders in the press. My critical mind is thinking there’s more to this than simple fatigue.

The noise will unfortunately be feverish if Everton turn us over at home. Then Newcastle away… and the fixture list is pretty grim reading after that. I just hope he makes safe and dry to the end of the season because it looks like things are going to get worse.

[Black Bull Nova]

Have the players downed tools to some extent? Thinking about how different Everton look now that Dyche is there vs Lampard. Exasperation with management for whatever reason can explain a lot… and maybe explains some of the noises around Kornmayer/Ljinders in the press. My critical mind is thinking there’s more to this than simple fatigue.

The noise will unfortunately be feverish if Everton turn us over at home. Then Newcastle away… and the fixture list is pretty grim reading after that. I just hope he makes safe and dry to the end of the season because it looks like things are going to get worse.

No

[liverbloke]

Have the players downed tools to some extent? Thinking about how different Everton look now that Dyche is there vs Lampard. Exasperation with management for whatever reason can explain a lot… and maybe explains some of the noises around Kornmayer/Ljinders in the press. My critical mind is thinking there’s more to this than simple fatigue.

The noise will unfortunately be feverish if Everton turn us over at home. Then Newcastle away… and the fixture list is pretty grim reading after that. I just hope he makes safe and dry to the end of the season because it looks like things are going to get worse.

we might be playing shit but no fucking way - why would you think that?

nonsense

[rob1966]

Have the players downed tools to some extent? Thinking about how different Everton look now that Dyche is there vs Lampard. Exasperation with management for whatever reason can explain a lot… and maybe explains some of the noises around Kornmayer/Ljinders in the press. My critical mind is thinking there’s more to this than simple fatigue.

The noise will unfortunately be feverish if Everton turn us over at home. Then Newcastle away… and the fixture list is pretty grim reading after that. I just hope he makes safe and dry to the end of the season because it looks like things are going to get worse.

What the fuck?

[Jayo10]

What the fuck?

I don't believe the players have downed tools, but I always have to laugh at posters showing sheer incredulity at a very simply and fair question being asked. "Have the players downed tools" the previous poster asked.

Theres been f*ck all reaction from them in response to being outplayed, outfought, out thought and pretty much bettered by everyone we have played in the last month or so. So its a very fair question to ask.

[FlashGordon]

I don't believe the players have downed tools, but I always have to laugh at posters showing sheer incredulity at a very simply and fair question being asked. "Have the players downed tools" the previous poster asked.

Theres been f*ck all reaction from them in response to being outplayed, outfought, out thought and pretty much bettered by everyone we have played in the last month or so. So its a very fair question to ask.

What reaction do you expect if their bodies aren't up to it anymore? Do you want more tantrum throwing and finger pointing on the pitch?

It's not a fair question, it's a loaded question which implies Klopp has 'lost the dressing room' or some other such shite.

[Ghost Town]

Have the players downed tools to some extent? Thinking about how different Everton look now that Dyche is there vs Lampard. Exasperation with management for whatever reason can explain a lot… and maybe explains some of the noises around Kornmayer/Ljinders in the press. My critical mind is thinking there’s more to this than simple fatigue.

Yep, they've had enough and hate him and want him gone and want someone like Dyche in, who has done wonders at Everton. The love affair is over, just like with a lot of fans, who aren't quite brave enough to say so openly yet. The players are showing it by "downing tools" in a way especially coded so that only certain 'special' individuals with "critical minds" can see it; the 'chosen' or the 'elect' the 'clear seers' with 'critical minds'. They are sending you messages saying "it's ok, he'll soon be gone, we're dowining tools. Don't worry if those biffs on RAWK can't see it, they don't have "critical minds" like you, but you can see it and you are the ones that matter"

Next month Robbo and Mo will be indicating who their preferred choice for new manager is, using a mix of gamelan music and interpretive dance. Such a shame most normal people won't get it.

[24/7]

Yep, they've had enough and hate him and want him gone and want someone like Dyche in, who has done wonders at Everton. The love affair is over, just like with a lot of fans, who aren't quite brave enough to say so openly yet. The players are showing it by "downing tools" in a way especially coded so that only certain 'special' individuals with "critical minds" can see it; the 'chosen' or the 'elect' the 'clear seers' with 'critical minds'. They are sending you messages saying "it's ok, he'll soon be gone, we're dowining tools. Don't worry if those biffs on RAWK can't see it, they don't have "critical minds" like you, but you can see it and you are the ones that matter"

Next month Robbo and Mo will be indicating who their preferred choice for new manager is, using a mix of gamelan music and interpretive dance. Such a shame most normal people won't get it.

Brutal

[Fromola]

I said the other day there's a bit of 'same voice' syndrome in that he's been their manager a long time, Guardiola going through similar at City. We haven't sufficiently refreshed to guard against that more when you get into a rut. Therefore in theory you might get a short term new manager bounce from someone who would change things up, a new voice etc.

But that 'same voice' is our only hope of staying competitive next season and beyond. He just needs to significantly refresh the squad where it needs it.

[Ghost Town]

I don't believe the players have downed tools, but I always have to laugh at posters showing sheer incredulity at a very simply and fair question being asked.

That one must have been deleted. Strange, if it were a fair question...

"Have the players downed tools" the previous poster asked.

Oh, it wasn't

Theres been f*ck all reaction from them in response to being outplayed, outfought, out thought and pretty much bettered by everyone we have played in the last month or so. So its a very fair question to ask.

Are the players in fact robots that Elon Musk has developed and has done a deal with LFC to try out on the pitch? It's a fair question to ask! He has surgically removed key parts from the players and placed them inside his androids in a advanced new type of cybernetic mish-mash, though the artist from Tussauds tasked with doing Mo's hair hasn't quite got it right. Should that artist be imprisoned for doing such a bad job? It's a fair question to ask!

I think this android story must be true. The team aren't winning every game like it said on the packet when many fans signed up to be LFC fans, and are losing quite a few so it's a fair question to ask.

In other unrealted news I hear Musk has also surgically removed the bollocks from lots of people...

[A Red Abroad]

Yep, they've had enough and hate him and want him gone and want someone like Dyche in, who has done wonders at Everton. The love affair is over, just like with a lot of fans, who aren't quite brave enough to say so openly yet. The players are showing it by "downing tools" in a way especially coded so that only certain 'special' individuals with "critical minds" can see it; the 'chosen' or the 'elect' the 'clear seers' with 'critical minds'. They are sending you messages saying "it's ok, he'll soon be gone, we're dowining tools. Don't worry if those biffs on RAWK can't see it, they don't have "critical minds" like you, but you can see it and you are the ones that matter"

Next month Robbo and Mo will be indicating who their preferred choice for new manager is, using a mix of gamelan music and interpretive dance. Such a shame most normal people won't get it.

 

[rob1966]

I don't believe the players have downed tools, but I always have to laugh at posters showing sheer incredulity at a very simply and fair question being asked. "Have the players downed tools" the previous poster asked.

Theres been f*ck all reaction from them in response to being outplayed, outfought, out thought and pretty much bettered by everyone we have played in the last month or so. So its a very fair question to ask.

Because it's a stupid question. The players didn't "down tools" in the covid season either, they were just fucked. Last season drained everyone, the players are being overplayed, they never get a rest, there is massive pressure on them and no matter how hard they try, things are going wrong. It can sap your confidence/self belief and get make you underperform.

[24/7]

What's been apparent is that too many registered members of RAWK appeared to have "downed common sense" and become "underperforming tools".

I'm looking forward to seeing Klopp challenge James Pearce on this very point at the next prezzer.

[hide5seek]

Have the players downed tools to some extent? Thinking about how different Everton look now that Dyche is there vs Lampard. Exasperation with management for whatever reason can explain a lot… and maybe explains some of the noises around Kornmayer/Ljinders in the press. My critical mind is thinking there’s more to this than simple fatigue.

The noise will unfortunately be feverish if Everton turn us over at home. Then Newcastle away… and the fixture list is pretty grim reading after that. I just hope he makes safe and dry to the end of the season because it looks like things are going to get worse.

Anything is possible but if they have downed tools I'd want them gone before Klopp personally. Though that's not to say Klopp hasn't made mistakes.

[PhilV]

Sorry mate but I don't give a shiny fucking shite about whether some attention seeking journo is right or wrong.

Klopps job is to win trophies, he's done that, then some more, some more after that, then broke a shot ton of records, then some more on that too. Pearce is a journalist the likes of who the majority of would sell their own mother for a story. Yeah Klopp has likely been more sensitive of late and maybe here as his back is against the wall right now. This is EXACTLY when he needs the fans support, more so than when we are winning everything. He's brought us everything so when I see him in trouble like this my instinct is to back him no matter fucking what. So if he wants to bring out a mini gun into these vulture galleries he has to sit though then I'll cheer him on.

Rumours are it was either from a story he wrote with someone else or a mix up, Pearce has been licking his arse this morning apparently so I'm guessing it's all been sorted. That aside though I don't even care if Klopp is 1000% wrong on this, if he says Pearce can do one, he can do one.

Hear, Hear!

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

I said the other day there's a bit of 'same voice' syndrome in that he's been their manager a long time, Guardiola going through similar at City. We haven't sufficiently refreshed to guard against that more when you get into a rut. Therefore in theory you might get a short term new manager bounce from someone who would change things up, a new voice etc.

But that 'same voice' is our only hope of staying competitive next season and beyond. He just needs to significantly refresh the squad where it needs it.

Or 2 teams that have punched each other out?

[jillcwhomever]

Or 2 teams that have punched each other out?

That's the most likely reason.