Topic: 2023/24 PGMOL/Refs/VAR/Howard Manc watch

[Andy @ Allerton!]

A new exciting season and a new set of absolutely useless fucking clowns.

What joys will they bring this season? What amazing bias and bullshit will we see?

[mainone]

HAVE THEY BEEN OUR A SUMMER TRIP TO DISCUSS WHO THEY FUCKING HATE

[bradders1011]

Standard hasn't raised any. My 5-a-side league is no over head height and the tit in charge on Monday kept giving it against us when it was about chest high on our 5' striker.

[oojason]

'Objective Data: Liverpool Are Refereed VERY VERY Differently To Rival Clubs':-

Free Read: Detailed Data Analysis of Premier League Refereeing, 2015-2023

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/objective-data-liverpool-are-refereed?sd=pf

[Fromola]

'Objective Data: Liverpool Are Refereed VERY VERY Differently To Rival Clubs':-

Free Read: Detailed Data Analysis of Premier League Refereeing, 2015-2023

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/objective-data-liverpool-are-refereed?sd=pf

I always say we play to different rules than everyone else and are stuck with clearly biased Manchester officials most weeks. It'd help if we had people fighting our corner in the media. Carragher says fuck all.

No way Neville would put up with Merseyside refs for United every week, trying to fuck them over.

[exiledintheUSA]

I always say we play to different rules than everyone else and are stuck with clearly biased Manchester officials most weeks. It'd help if we had people fighting our corner in the media. Carragher says fuck all.

No way Neville would put up with Merseyside refs for United every week, trying to fuck them over.

Yep.  We are so soft on this.

[12C]

'Objective Data: Liverpool Are Refereed VERY VERY Differently To Rival Clubs':-

Free Read: Detailed Data Analysis of Premier League Refereeing, 2015-2023

https://tomkinstimes.substack.com/p/objective-data-liverpool-are-refereed?sd=pf

Just come across this on Twitter and came in to post, but beaten to it. 
Fascinating little snippets

Paul Tierney gives as many free kicks against Mo Salah as he does for.
Crystal Palace get the benefit of more second yellows than any other team, whereas the last player to be sent off for a second yellow against Liverpool was Sadio Mané in 2015.

[12C]

I always say we play to different rules than everyone else and are stuck with clearly biased Manchester officials most weeks. It'd help if we had people fighting our corner in the media. Carragher says fuck all.

No way Neville would put up with Merseyside refs for United every week, trying to fuck them over.

I keep saying this to people who say we are always moaning about Manc Refs.

Imagine a referee called Joe Bloggs made it onto the PGMOL elite list.
Joe hails from an place in Knowsley called Kirkby. It isn’t in Liverpool. He claims he doesn’t support Liverpool or Everton but was a big Prescot Cables fan.
Joe gets to referee Liverpool or Everton v a Manchester side.
He fails to send off Tarkowski or Van Dyke for a last man challenge on a Manchester player.

Imagine if you can the response from the media including Neville.

Remember. Anthony Taylor is from Wythenshawe which is in Manchester, and he supported Altrincham as a kid

[BoRed]

Remember. Anthony Taylor is from Wythenshawe which is in Manchester, and he supported Altrincham as a kid

Guess who's refereeing our game on Sunday.

[tubby]

Guess who's refereeing our game on Sunday.

Hopefully Andy.

[kavah]

^ good grief already dreading it!

PS interesting data from Tomkins, the North West / Wool / Manc refs shouldn't be anywhere near our games

[lamonti]

A new exciting season and a new set of absolutely useless fucking clowns.

What joys will they bring this season? What amazing bias and bullshit will we see?

About three weeks of adding on 10 minutes to every half until people start complaining about it and they starting winding it back to 6 or so per half.

[Qston]

HAVE THEY BEEN OUR A SUMMER TRIP TO DISCUSS WHO THEY FUCKING HATE

Are you a fan of Donald Trump ?

[Gray Hamster]

Those refereeing stats are amazing and very damning.   It’s the sort of thing PGMOL should be seriously looking at and getting on top of…….. Just a shame it’s run by a bunch of absolute clowns

[MJD-L4]

About three weeks of adding on 10 minutes to every half until people start complaining about it and they starting winding it back to 6 or so per half.

They'll do it until we get fucked over by it somehow and then they'll drop it.

Like the Masch red card all them years ago.

[Jshooters]

Those refereeing stats are amazing and very damning.   It’s the sort of thing that our club should be lobbying for PGMOL to be seriously looking at and getting on top of…….. Just a shame it’s run by a bunch of absolute clowns

ftfy

[KillieRed]

I still can’t get over that season we were 1st & 2nd in all attacking measurables and were 19th for free kicks given. Or Jack Grealish & James Maddison being awarded over fouls in the season when Mo got 19. One every second game. I’ve given up looking at stats. The PGMOL needs replacing.

[rob1966]

Those refereeing stats are amazing and very damning.   It’s the sort of thing PGMOL should be seriously looking at and getting on top of…….. Just a shame it’s run by a bunch of absolute clowns a Manc loving ex SYP copper

[bradders1011]

Someone needs to abduct Taylor and rendition him to Istanbul for a hair transplant.

[RMG]

Taylor isn't a very good ref is he.

[BoRed]

Taylor isn't a very good ref is he.

The problem is that he actually is. Watch him in Europe or at the World Cup and he usually does well.

Which is why it's pretty clear that this is not just poor refereeing or honest mistakes, it's way too consistent for that.

[bradders1011]

Think my favourite bit of all was when he stood in front of Dom to stop him countering and let Chelsea retake the ball about 15 yards outside our box.

[Nitramdorf]

Fuck me just came across the ref support charity account on Twitter

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1690767174992793602?t=Lj9-3wncfs7GjUF8Zl7O0w&s=19

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1690767768306487296?t=4ykAR7Dio5xNpW-ge4wN1g&s=19

Theres another one praising the booking of MacAllister with some emojis of a bicep. 

On their header it states - "If we block you it means you're a fool"

[redgriffin73]

I'm convinced it's a blag account run by a 13-year-old schoolboy, it's so fucking unprofessional it's a joke.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

I'm convinced it's a blag account run by a 13-year-old schoolboy, it's so fucking unprofessional it's a joke.

The PGMOL?

[Lee1-6Liv]

Fuck me just came across the ref support charity account on Twitter

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1690767174992793602?t=Lj9-3wncfs7GjUF8Zl7O0w&s=19

https://twitter.com/refsupportuk/status/1690767768306487296?t=4ykAR7Dio5xNpW-ge4wN1g&s=19

Theres another one praising the booking of MacAllister with some emojis of a bicep. 

On their header it states - "If we block you it means you're a fool"

Someone on twitter called the referees corrupt after the Utd game on Monday and this account wanted their details so they could be prosecuted 

[FiSh77]

The PGMOL?

[In the Name of Klopp]

I'm convinced it's a blag account run by a 13-year-old schoolboy, it's so fucking unprofessional it's a joke.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was run by a PGMOL staff or Webb himself   

[Peabee]

This officiating is corrupt.

[reddebs]

Whatever needs to be done to put us at a disadvantage

[lobsterboy]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was run by a PGMOL staff or Webb himself   

I have it on good authority that its run by Tierney's brother, who is also his wife.

[rob1966]

Whatever needs to be done to put us at a disadvantage

This is the correct answer.

And the ones who say we are conspiracy theorists can fuck off, the corruption is glaringly obvious.

[Charlie Adams fried egg]

This is the correct answer.

And the ones who say we are conspiracy theorists can fuck off, the corruption is glaringly obvious.

I keep saying this, but an organisation that views impartiality as important wouldnt create potential conflicts of interest for their own employees. But they do, and because of the pathetic levels of scrutiny and pushback, it’s empowered them to increase the numbers on manc refs, to the point where it’s become business as usual.

It’s what happens when organisations are allowed to act with impunity.