Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[Welshred]

Hospitilisations seem to be levelling off, or is that still following the cases?

[Red-Soldier]

Hospitilisations seem to be levelling off, or is that still following the cases?

Of course they are, all the vulnerable are fully vaccinated, and even the less so have had one jab by now.

[PaulF]

I agree we will see masks when needed, but I don't believe we will all be required to wear masks anymore after the 19th July,

And definitely not if you are visiting UEFA dignitary.

[TSC]

After the attendance announcement re the Euro semis and final at Wembley now we have this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57598221

[TSC]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1454193/EU-news-Angela-Merkel-Germany-UK-holiday-quarantine-Brussels-summit-latest

[Commie Bobbie]

After the attendance announcement re the Euro semis and final at Wembley now we have this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/57598221

It says something when Hamilton has openly said that he thinks such a decision is 'premature'.

[TepidT2O]

If we continue to see little appreciable  rise in hospitalisations, then the case numbers can be lived with.


Fingers crossed for the next week or so. 

[Red-Soldier]

If we continue to see little appreciable  rise in hospitalisations, then the case numbers can be lived with.


Fingers crossed for the next week or so.

Bit of a tortoise there 

[Hij]

If we continue to see little appreciable  rise in hospitalisations, then the case numbers can be lived with.


Fingers crossed for the next week or so. 

Let's hope so.

[thaddeus]

If we continue to see little appreciable  rise in hospitalisations, then the case numbers can be lived with.


Fingers crossed for the next week or so.

Any views on "long Covid"?

(edit: not supposed to sound sarcastic!  As you're someone well read on the subject I'm genuinely interested if you think the extrapolated numbers of people suffering from "long Covid" and the reported symptoms are enough alone for us to worry about the case numbers rising)

[TepidT2O]

Any views on "long Covid"?

(edit: not supposed to sound sarcastic!  As you're someone well read on the subject I'm genuinely interested if you think the extrapolated numbers of people suffering from "long Covid" and the reported symptoms are enough alone for us to worry about the case numbers rising)

Well that’s the question isn’t it?  If people aren’t going into hospitals in big numbers, can we live (as a population) with long covid?

I don’t think we have  any serious chance of zero covid and we haven’t for many many months. 

I suspect the answer will vary depending  on who you ask.  Me, I didn’t have long Covid, so I’m biased and would say it’s ok.  Others might have a better informed point of view.

[Lee1-6Liv]

Our neighbours have covid, the husband, wife and even the kid all coughing constantly. They caught it in Presthaven sands the week before last.

[djahern]

If we continue to see little appreciable  rise in hospitalisations, then the case numbers can be lived with.


Fingers crossed for the next week or so. 

Actually a lot of positives in the data at the moment. We’re almost at the best case scenario when the decision was made to wait for the data. Hopefully it holds, if it does then modelling gets updated and the outlook starts to look pretty good.

[RainbowFlick]

Research into period irregularities and any impact on fertility being undertaken, which obviously has raised alarm bells in the anti-vax community who all feel vindicated again... even though it's literally just research into whether there's any link lol

Although anecdotally quite a few younger women I know mentioned heavier than normal bleeding that fixed itself after a while.

[RainbowFlick]

Any views on "long Covid"?

(edit: not supposed to sound sarcastic!  As you're someone well read on the subject I'm genuinely interested if you think the extrapolated numbers of people suffering from "long Covid" and the reported symptoms are enough alone for us to worry about the case numbers rising)

I don't think there are any definitive reported figures on 'long covid' as I guess maybe it's difficult to necessarily assume it was caused by Covid.

I know someone in their 20s who has long Covid now which she's slowly recovering from despite being pretty healthy. A cousin of mine in her 60s also took about 5 months to recover from general lethargy and breathing issues.

I guess you can only mitigate at this stage. We are unfortunately beyond the stage where we can properly 'beat down' the virus and have basically just accepted its existence. I'll personally just continue to wear a mask in very cramped/public areas.

The conversation could drastically change if we start finding young kids are getting it though in large numbers.

[RF]

Speaking of antivax one my antivax workmates was watching something on his phone a few days ago. I asked him what it was and he said it was Eric Clapton on about how the covid vaccines are really bad etc 🙄

[PaulF]

Eric Clapton MD PhD in virology, head of viral research at Oxford university I presume?

[killer-heels]

Makes me laugh these idiots on Question Time moaning about a two tier society of haves and have nots, in relation to bloody holidays. Since when were holidays an essential part of anything. Just amazing the amount of news time holidays have taken in this pandemic.

[Macphisto80]

Speaking of antivax one my antivax workmates was watching something on his phone a few days ago. I asked him what it was and he said it was Eric Clapton on about how the covid vaccines are really bad etc 🙄

Eric Clapton, the anti vaxer that takes vaccines and then claims they somehow make his hands stop working so he can't play a guitar. Him and Van Morrison should team up to do a duo. Oh, hold on...

[TepidT2O]

Eric Clapton, the anti vaxer that takes vaccines and then claims they somehow make his hands stop working so he can't play a guitar. Him and Van Morrison should team up to do a duo. Oh, hold on...

Lots of talk of cancel culture..


But Clapton is a bigoted racist antivaxer yet keeps going.

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/eric-clapton-racist-outburst/

Big fan of Enoch Powell.. genuinely

[stoa]

Lots of talk of cancel culture..


But Clapton is a bigoted racist antivaxer yet keeps going.

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/eric-clapton-racist-outburst/

Big fan of Enoch Powell.. genuinely

I'm not a fan of Clapton or have followed his career in any way, but from what I've known about him I never would have thought that he'd be such a c*nt. It's a bit as if someone discovered old footage of Mother Teresa eating chips and telling a kid asking for one "Piss off, I'm starving".

[TepidT2O]

I'm not a fan of Clapton or have followed his career in any way, but from what I've known about him I never would have thought that he'd be such a c*nt. It's a bit as if someone discovered old footage of Mother Teresa eating chips and telling a kid asking for one "Piss off, I'm starving".

It’s not entirely good news on the mother Teresa front either  I’m afraid.

[classycarra]

It’s not entirely good news on the mother Teresa front either  I’m afraid.

haha yeah beat me to it. dont want to shock you stoa mate, but she was a complete scumbag

[didi shamone]

Eric Clapton, the anti vaxer that takes vaccines and then claims they somehow make his hands stop working so he can't play a guitar. Him and Van Morrison should team up to do a duo. Oh, hold on...

The same Van Morrison who lived through the troubles and the American civil rights movement without a peep.
Now that he can't play his dirge live he kicks off. Utter bellend.

[Macphisto80]

The same Van Morrison who lived through the troubles and the American civil rights movement without a peep.
Now that he can't play his dirge live he kicks off. Utter bellend.

It's not even as if he wasn't allowed to feel aggrieved about it. He's within his rights to be pissed off. However, there's ways of making your point, and standing up on a stage and ranting like you're having a mental breakdown isn't a good look. He came across as being genuinely unhinged. Fucking gobshite.

[stoa]

It’s not entirely good news on the mother Teresa front either  I’m afraid.

haha yeah beat me to it. dont want to shock you stoa mate, but she was a complete scumbag

To be fair,  there are no stories out there about her tellinng a kid to piss off...

[redbyrdz]

Any views on "long Covid"?

(edit: not supposed to sound sarcastic!  As you're someone well read on the subject I'm genuinely interested if you think the extrapolated numbers of people suffering from "long Covid" and the reported symptoms are enough alone for us to worry about the case numbers rising)

There are two question there - is long covid is linked to severity of the original illness? If so, than a reduction in hospitalisations should also mean a reduction in long covid case. Afaik, this wasn't the case though - severe illness had a longer recovery time, especially if ventilation/ICU was needed, but that was seperate from long covid. On the other hand, even mild cases can develop long covid. I don't have any figures though.

The other, and probably seperate question, is if the vaccine protects from long covid. I guess we don't have good figure for that yet, because fully vaccinated cases of covid are rare, and long covid sufferers would be a small subgroup of that.

[PaulF]

To be fair,  there are no stories out there about her tellinng a kid to piss off...

Maybe not, but she was no saint either.

[Snail]

Research into period irregularities and any impact on fertility being undertaken, which obviously has raised alarm bells in the anti-vax community who all feel vindicated again... even though it's literally just research into whether there's any link lol

Although anecdotally quite a few younger women I know mentioned heavier than normal bleeding that fixed itself after a while.

I've been "not right" since the first jab. Won't go into too much detail but the first period I had after getting it made me throw up with pain, and whilst I've been bad before it was by far the worst I've ever had. The other one after that wasn't much better, over a week late and agony again.

[Red_Mist]

If we continue to see little appreciable  rise in hospitalisations, then the case numbers can be lived with.


Fingers crossed for the next week or so. 

It would be good to see the ‘deaths’ data slowing down. Cases are up 45% (last 7 days compared to the preceding 7 days) and we know that the Delta variant is continuing to spread, but doing much less damage that it would have without vaccinations.

But what nobody seems to have mentioned is that deaths are up 32% (again last 7 days compared to the preceding 7). Admittedly from a low base, but hasn’t that always been the case?

[west_london_red]

Research into period irregularities and any impact on fertility being undertaken, which obviously has raised alarm bells in the anti-vax community who all feel vindicated again... even though it's literally just research into whether there's any link lol

Although anecdotally quite a few younger women I know mentioned heavier than normal bleeding that fixed itself after a while.

Mrs WLR who is usually as regular as clockwork and very consistent in that department has been all over the place since she had her first jab about 5-6 weeks ago.

[thaddeus]

I just went along to a vaccine site as part of the "Big Covid-19 vaccination weekend" and had my second jab.  I'm not saying this to show off but I am very happy 

The minimum gap between first and second vaccines was only 21 days so if anyone is in that window of being between 3 and 12 weeks since their first vaccine then probably worth checking out sites in your area.  The rules may be different if you're not in a Delta hot-spot so probably worth checking before you start queuing up.

[Lee1-6Liv]

Got my second dose today but they nearly didn't give it to me. She asked for my GP's address but when I told her the name of the practice she shook her head and said no. In the end it wasn't even my GP's address they were after but the medical group of the area I'm in.

[The G in Gerrard]

15,810 new cases & 18 deaths reported.

[TheKid.]

In my school, we now have about 1/3 of the school isolating.  Most it’s ever been

[leroy]

Whole of Sydney locked down for two weeks.  Break out apparently started with an unvacinated limo driver who was transporting international flight crews.

Then this last night: apparently this is clients + close contacts = 900

[TepidT2O]

In my school, we now have about 1/3 of the school isolating.  Most it’s ever been

We’ve had 4 cases… all in KS3.   
We brought back masks in class last week, because…why not?

[Welshred]

Walk in clinics all across London again today. No GP or NHS number needed, no questions asked.

[Jm55]

I’d be interested in what people think about the delta deaths vs vaccine figures released on ITV news last night -

117 deaths of which :

44 were unvaccinated
23 had received a single dose
50 were fully vaccinated
All we’re over the age of 50

Is the rationale for this that vaccine or no vaccine, generally speaking the older you are, the higher risk you are and therefore you’d still expect t to see relatively high (comparatively) death figures in those with 2 jabs as they are the ones who are typically older (as older people are offered the vaccines sooner?)

The report was fairly sparse, and it did say that health officials are confident that the vaccines are reducing severe illness and death but nevertheless presumably you’d hope to see the ratio of deaths/vaccine to be lower?

I’m not always the best at analysing numerical data, hence hoping that some in here are and can point me in the right direction!

For reference this is the report, there’s a video link within if you want to watch it:

https://www.itv.com/news/2021-06-25/covid-delta-variant-the-top-20-hotspots-in-england

[DelTrotter]

I just went along to a vaccine site as part of the "Big Covid-19 vaccination weekend" and had my second jab.  I'm not saying this to show off but I am very happy 

The minimum gap between first and second vaccines was only 21 days so if anyone is in that window of being between 3 and 12 weeks since their first vaccine then probably worth checking out sites in your area.  The rules may be different if you're not in a Delta hot-spot so probably worth checking before you start queuing up.

Thanks for this mate, got my 2nd pfizer in London yesterday after only 4 weeks.