Topic: China - a Fascist State

[Jshooters]

Such a fearful administration

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/28/china-censors-maskless-crowd-footage-in-world-cup-broadcasts?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[darragh85]

hope that its the start of a revolution there.

[Yorkykopite]

Such a fearful administration

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/28/china-censors-maskless-crowd-footage-in-world-cup-broadcasts?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

That's very telling.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

https://reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/z5l9lx/citizens_chant_ccp_step_down_and_xi_jinping_step/

Things spciing up.

Brave people

[Yorkykopite]

This thread on the protests and where they might lead is informative:

https://twitter.com/wjhurst/status/1596722048717709312

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

This thread on the protests and where they might lead is informative:

https://twitter.com/wjhurst/status/1596722048717709312

Good read that.

On a strategic level, these protests leave Xi worse off whatever path they take imo.

If he does nothing hurtful and it somehow peters out, the new information is now there that you can protest openly against China, in China's major cities and face no serious repercussions.

If he hurts them openly, that's new info to their people that Xi's administration is willing to hurt them large scale, directly. Till now, it was always ah well it's others getting hit, not us, we'll be taken care of. Potentially sets the ground for a continued rebellion.

He might lock down on a large scale again, all points, identify protesters and try to discreetly jail them away, cut out information. Possibly the best course of action for him, time-tested plain vanilla delaying the inevitable method of all dictators.

The best course of action is of course not to get entagled in this at all, don't antagonise people you're paid to manage properly, utilise them as a source of open feedback, encourage peaceful demonstrations if they do happen and get what you can from them. Forcing people into a corner with no exit is just bad management / negotiation, whether you're up against a wild animal or tasked to manage a country.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

China, Iran, Russia - finally are showing their true colors for everyone to see. Even to the most ignorant ones.

[Jiminy Cricket]

China, Iran, Russia - finally are showing their true colors for everyone to see. Even to the most ignorant ones.

They still have their supporters/apologists. Even in one of the major Parties in the UK. Thankfully, their voice now very small and further shrinks by the day.

One guy (from the US) with whom I had the unfortunate experience of interacting some years ago online - I just checked - is still all-in with Putin. This level of delusion is full Kanye West.

[Nobby Reserve]

China has published a new map of China, which annexes parts of India, Russia and Nepal.
They've also laid claim to large areas of the South China Sea.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/china-new-map-territory-g20-asean-summit-india-malaysia-russia-indonesia-protest-3737366

[RedSince86]

Just wait until China updates the map with Siberia part of China and laying claims to the Gas and Oil there and then flexing their military might in Siberia against a weakened Russia who end up joining NATO    ,exactly what happened in the Tom Clancy novel The Bear And The Dragon.

It's a fantastic read.

[ScouserAtHeart]

Just wait until China updates the map with Siberia part of China and laying claims to the Gas and Oil there and then flexing their military might in Siberia against a weakened Russia who end up joining NATO    ,exactly what happened in the Tom Clancy novel The Bear And The Dragon.

It's a fantastic read.

Well now you've spoiled it 

[Sangria]

Just wait until China updates the map with Siberia part of China and laying claims to the Gas and Oil there and then flexing their military might in Siberia against a weakened Russia who end up joining NATO    ,exactly what happened in the Tom Clancy novel The Bear And The Dragon.

It's a fantastic read.

"The Treaty of Nerchinsk (Chinese: 尼布楚條約) of 1689 was the first treaty between the Tsardom of Russia and the Qing dynasty of China. The Russians gave up the area north of the Amur River as far as the Stanovoy Range and kept the area between the Argun River and Lake Baikal. "

If China wishes to reinstate the 1689 border, it would involve claiming an area roughly the size of the Koreas, maybe a bit more. North and South Korea combined is 220,903 km2 (as a comparison, the UK is 242,495 km2).

[kavah]

Just wait until China updates the map with Siberia part of China and laying claims to the Gas and Oil there and then flexing their military might in Siberia against a weakened Russia who end up joining NATO    ,exactly what happened in the Tom Clancy novel The Bear And The Dragon.

It's a fantastic read.

it seems inevitable

[A-Bomb]

We need to pay more attention to these - there is ample evidence of their threats to world peace.

https://twitter.com/ulrichspeck/status/1681960314219253760

[farawayred]

it seems inevitable

Does that accurately depict the Polish-Chinese border, or did the Chinese took a cut of that too? 

[Flaccido Dongingo]

Quasimodo predicted all of this.

[Sangria]

Quasimodo predicted all of this.

He had a hunch about it.

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

A coast card boat and a supply boat from the Philippines was struck, near the Second Thomas Shoal, in the South China Sea.

[Nobby Reserve]

A coast card boat and a supply boat from the Philippines was struck, near the Second Thomas Shoal, in the South China Sea.

The map of where China claims is laughable. Look at the dashed red line here:



Arrogant, embittered, aggressive.


I think historians will look back at how 'the West' - with its rabid consumerism and handing so much political and economic power to rapacious multinational corporations - enriched China (and fucked itself good and proper in the process) as like shooting itself in the foot with an RPG.

 

[John C]

Li Keqiang: Ex-Chinese premier sidelined by Xi dies at 68

The death of a leader in China can usher in big changes, it did after Mao Zedong, or can lead to political upheaval, like it did when grieving for Hu Yaobang morphed into the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests.

For this reason, the passing of former premier Li Keqiang has already triggered various measures to ensure that stability is maintained.

A crackdown on VPN use is under way to reduce the access of Chinese citizens to the parts of the internet not controlled by the Communist Party.

The Party doesn't want mourning for a popular, liberal, former number two leader to generate wider criticism of the current administration, led by Xi Jinping.

It is not just that Li died so suddenly, suffering a heart attack just months after stepping down, but because of what he represented: a way of potentially governing China with different priorities to those of the General Secretary Xi.

He was a bright pragmatist who didn't seem so concerned with ideology. And this is one reason why he cut such a lonely figure in the previous, seven-man Politburo Standing Committee, the country's most powerful decision-making body.

Li Keqiang: The life of China's marginalised premier
Xi Jinping's power grab - and why it matters
Then there's what would become known as the "Li Keqiang Index" which was born via a famous US state department memo, and came to light in Wikileaks. As the then Party Secretary of Liaoning Province, Li is said to have told the US ambassador in 2007 that the local GDP figures were unreliable as a way of judging economic health.

He reportedly said that he used three other indicators to analyse growth: railway cargo volume, electricity consumption and bank loan disbursements.

Criticising China's official statistics, even behind closed doors, to the Americans cannot have gone down well with his political opponents.

The former premier was considered one of the smartest political figures of his generation. He was accepted into the prestigious Peking University Law School soon after the universities were reopened following Chairman Mao's disastrous Cultural Revolution.

In a Party dominated by engineers, he was an economist, who become known for "telling it like it is" by honestly and publicly acknowledging China's economic problems as a means of finding solutions to them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-67236049
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67235777

[A-Bomb]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-67421394

your questions answered
Posted at 21:3221:32
What exports are blocked from entering the Chinese market?

John Sudworth

North America Correspondent

Our next question comes from Kuteesa Shadrach, a 27-year-old from Uganda.

They ask:

Quote Message: Which exports are banned from entering the Chinese market?"
Which exports are banned from entering the Chinese market?"

It’s an important question and one that goes to the heart of the US-China relationship today.

For all the talk of a thaw, for all of the niceties and gesture politics of a presidential summit, the truth is the two superpowers are locked in deep strategic rivalry.

The US now limits exports to companies and individuals involved in China’s repression of its Uyghur minority in Xinjiang, and to others involved in supporting Russia’s military.

Most significantly, Washington has imposed sweeping restrictions– unprecedented in scale and scope - on the export to China of semiconductors and chip-making equipment, the lifeblood of any modern economy.

China complains that the US is trying to stymie its rise with a new Cold War.

The US argues that – whatever you call it – it simply makes no sense to allow US technology to fuel the development of a military claiming territory in the South China Sea and threatening Taiwan.


https://www.bis.doc.gov/index.php/about-bis/newsroom/2082


This is for me a very sensible position and a very strong message that re-enforces the US still has control in this space.

Thank fuck the baby headed bellend Trump is not in control.

[Sheer Magnetism]

Oh oh.

China-backed Volt Typhoon hackers have lurked inside US critical infrastructure for ‘at least five years’

China-backed hackers have maintained access to American critical infrastructure for “at least five years” with the long-term goal of launching “destructive” cyberattacks, a coalition of U.S. intelligence agencies warned on Wednesday.

Volt Typhoon, a state-sponsored group of hackers based in China, has been burrowing into the networks of aviation, rail, mass transit, highway, maritime, pipeline, water and sewage organizations — none of which were named — in a bid to pre-position themselves for destructive cyberattacks, the NSA, CISA and FBI said in a joint advisory published on Wednesday.

This marks a “strategic shift” in the China-backed hackers’ traditional cyber espionage or intelligence gathering operations, the agencies said, as they instead prepare to disrupt operational technology in the event of a major conflict or crisis.

The release of the advisory, which was co-signed by cybersecurity agencies in the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, comes a week after a similar warning from FBI Director Christopher Wray. Speaking during a U.S. House of Representatives committee hearing on cyber threats posed by China, Wray described Volt Typhoon as “the defining threat of our generation” and said the group’s aim is to “disrupt our military’s ability to mobilize” in the early stages of an anticipated conflict over Taiwan, which China claims as its territory.

[[new username under construction]]

So if you know about them, why not just change the code? I mean is it credible or is it just another call for more money?

[Nobby Reserve]

One of the worst and most evil countries on the planet. Shows how weak the UN and international law is when these Chinese scumbags can just grab vast areas of sea belonging to other countries or international waters.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-68476384

[killer-heels]

One of the worst and most evil countries on the planet. Shows how weak the UN and international law is when these Chinese scumbags can just grab vast areas of sea belonging to other countries or international waters.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-68476384

Yep. Hate the fact we rely on this gang of c*nts. I am trying my best not to buy anything made from that shit hole, and when you try that you realise how much shite come from there.