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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16320 on: July 13, 2017, 03:50:11 pm »
Wow. Was always going to be an extortionate fee since it's City buying off Levy's Spurs. But, wow. £50m for a full-back, who isn't a 26 year old Dani Alves by any stretch of imagination. I'm amazed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

I'm sure it'll get broken a lot more times, but Kyle Walker is currently the 9th most expensive footballer in the world, and the most expensive English footballer of all time.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16321 on: July 13, 2017, 03:50:50 pm »
Makes Lukaku look a bargain.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16322 on: July 13, 2017, 03:54:21 pm »
Its insane but we are in a time now where Swansea turn down £40 mil for Sigurðsson. The market in England is a joke!!!

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16323 on: July 13, 2017, 03:55:07 pm »
He is probably equal to Clyne. So by that reckoning Clyne is a £50m full back.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16324 on: July 13, 2017, 03:55:28 pm »
I don't think Walker will be good in this City side, there will be no Wanyama or Dier covering him when he make a run forward. City's CB is also nowhere as good as Spurs's.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16325 on: July 13, 2017, 03:59:59 pm »
Wow. Was always going to be an extortionate fee since it's City buying off Levy's Spurs. But, wow. £50m for a full-back, who isn't a 26 year old Dani Alves by any stretch of imagination. I'm amazed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers

I'm sure it'll get broken a lot more times, but Kyle Walker is currently the 9th most expensive footballer in the world, and the most expensive English footballer of all time.

City have got the 3 most expensive English Footballer or all time I guess.
1) Walker 50M
2) Sterling 49M
3) Stones 47.5M

Bloody ridiculous fee spent.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16326 on: July 13, 2017, 04:00:25 pm »
Decent enough signing if they have the money I suppose, but it's great for Spurs considering they have Kieran Trippier in reserve, who's the same age and almost as good.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16327 on: July 13, 2017, 04:01:08 pm »
Missed out on Alves bought Walker. Ok.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16328 on: July 13, 2017, 04:04:18 pm »
To contradict my own post a few mins earlier, i ask myself though if i would be happy if we sold clyne for £50m ... ultimately if you are accepting bids of £50m for players of that calibre, you can't expect to sign someone for much less than that of equal ability ...

but i do understand the reasoning if pocchetino sees trippier as his first choice ... that's then one hell of a fee to get a for a second choice right back ...
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16329 on: July 13, 2017, 04:10:55 pm »
City have got the 3 most expensive English Footballer or all time I guess.
1) Walker 50M
2) Sterling 49M
3) Stones 47.5M

Bloody ridiculous fee spent.

And all of them are donkeys, they would be better off paying 60-70m for Alli, instead of 50 for Kyle goddamn Walker (ignore the different positions)
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16330 on: July 13, 2017, 04:20:27 pm »
City are desperate for fullbacks after Cooling their interest in Alves ,50+ add-ons for Walker? Levy's fingerprints all over this one.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16331 on: July 13, 2017, 04:22:42 pm »
And all of them are donkeys, they would be better off paying 60-70m for Alli, instead of 50 for Kyle goddamn Walker (ignore the different positions)

Alli's worth more than that in today's market.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16332 on: July 13, 2017, 04:24:24 pm »
Spurs have done great business in getting £50m for Walker. He's a good player but not *that* good, though he'll certainly improve City's team. Surprised Spurs have to sell to buy given the TV money and Champions League revenue.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16333 on: July 13, 2017, 04:26:24 pm »
Missed out on Alves bought Walker. Ok.
they were going for both anyway
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16334 on: July 13, 2017, 04:28:18 pm »
Levy is very, very good at his job though Walker is a level above Trippier, the drop-off in quality at RB will be visible this season imo.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16335 on: July 13, 2017, 04:37:45 pm »
Levy is very, very good at his job though Walker is a level above Trippier, the drop-off in quality at RB will be visible this season imo.

Why, because Man City paid mega bucks for one of their players? By that rationale Ian Ayre is also very good at his job for getting £50 million for Sterling?

Man City pay silly money for players, it happens.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16336 on: July 13, 2017, 04:38:25 pm »
Unreal spending.  Just the defense cost more than Bayern's / Juve's entire squad. 

 Walker, Mangala, Otamendi, Stones, Ederson, Bravo, Mendy (est) we're talking 300 million quid there

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16337 on: July 13, 2017, 04:41:19 pm »
50m+ for Walker :lmao

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16338 on: July 13, 2017, 04:41:48 pm »
Unreal spending.  Just the defense cost more than Bayern's / Juve's entire squad. 

 Walker, Mangala, Otamendi, Stones, Ederson, Bravo, Mendy (est) we're talking 300 million quid there

And there genuinely isn't one stand out player there either.

Imagine how much peak Kompany or Zabaleta would be worth in this market.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16339 on: July 13, 2017, 04:45:25 pm »
Unreal spending.  Just the defense cost more than Bayern's / Juve's entire squad. 

 Walker, Mangala, Otamendi, Stones, Ederson, Bravo, Mendy (est) we're talking 300 million quid there


Makes no difference to them though. They've had a terrible strike rate with transfers since the oil money came in but they only need a small number of them to work out when money is no object.

I've just had a look back at the first page of this thread and amongst all the posts calling Milner shite it shows that they've been chucking money around like confetti for years now.

Edin Dzeko - £25m (1 goal in 12 games)
Gareth Barry - £18m (Puts a decent shift in but £18mil for a half decent CM, really?)
Emmanuel Adebayor - £25m (Half a decent season, bench warmed then loaned out)
Roque Santa Cruz - £18m (Played about 9 games, loaned out)
Wayne Bridge - £12m (Was OK for a bit then went really shit, loaned out.
Lescott - £24m (Been mostly decent but has had some shite games, again £24mil?)
Craig Bellamy - £16m (Cities POTS last year, but £16mil? Now loaned out due to Mancini)
Shaun Wright-Phillips - £10m (Shite, done fuck all)
Jo - £19m (See above)
Robinho - £32.5m (Half decent first season, shite 2nd. Sold for about a £12mil-£15mil loss)
Ben Haim - £7m (Shite)

Total - £181.5m

Didn't include Milner as £12m + Ireland ain't bad considering how bad Ireland is.


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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16340 on: July 13, 2017, 05:01:36 pm »
Must be one of the only ones who think 50 mill isn't SO bad. He was brilliant for spurs the last 2 seasons and city desperately need full backs. In a world where Swansea reject 40 mill for Sigurdsson, I think Spurs could have got more personally.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16341 on: July 13, 2017, 05:06:43 pm »
He was brilliant for spurs the last 2 seasons
Agree. Pocchettino done an incredible job with both him and Rose. Two of the best fullbacks in the league imo.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16342 on: July 13, 2017, 05:20:32 pm »
Must be one of the only ones who think 50 mill isn't SO bad. He was brilliant for spurs the last 2 seasons and city desperately need full backs. In a world where Swansea reject 40 mill for Sigurdsson, I think Spurs could have got more personally.
Well if pochettino is right and walker can't cope with more than one game a week then it's a big overpay for someone who's stood out under a manager who seems to get a lot out of full backs, but not really shone any other time.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16343 on: July 13, 2017, 05:30:48 pm »
Makes no difference to them though. They've had a terrible strike rate with transfers since the oil money came in but they only need a small number of them to work out when money is no object.

I've just had a look back at the first page of this thread and amongst all the posts calling Milner shite it shows that they've been chucking money around like confetti for years now.

That list has a common denominator -  Mark Hughes. He wastes money on a lot of crap when his given significant funds to spend.

City look like they are going to have plenty pace in the side this season. Something I feel Guardiola thinks he needs to address so transitions from defence to attack and vice versa are a lot quicker.

One thing walker has is great recovery pace.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16344 on: July 13, 2017, 05:35:49 pm »
Walker is good and definitely a big upgrade over what they had last season. The money is crazy of course, but I'm sure their fans won't care.

If they get Mendy too as rumored, they will have significantly improved their 2 weakest positions. Jury still out on the their keepers and central defense.

If they get Sanchez too then....well here's hoping Arsenal won't be that stupid.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16345 on: July 13, 2017, 05:39:32 pm »
Agree. Pocchettino done an incredible job with both him and Rose. Two of the best fullbacks in the league imo.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16346 on: July 13, 2017, 06:51:34 pm »
Must be one of the only ones who think 50 mill isn't SO bad. He was brilliant for spurs the last 2 seasons and city desperately need full backs. In a world where Swansea reject 40 mill for Sigurdsson, I think Spurs could have got more personally.
Agreed...  he's a better player than stones too.

I just can't understand why spurs are prepared to sell...  makes no sense to me
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16347 on: July 13, 2017, 07:06:37 pm »
Agreed...  he's a better player than stones too.

I just can't understand why spurs are prepared to sell...  makes no sense to me
They have a shiny new stadium to pay for.
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« Reply #16348 on: July 13, 2017, 07:09:09 pm »
They have a shiny new stadium to pay for.
Is that why?  Would be such a shame to waste those years spent building such a fine team
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16349 on: July 13, 2017, 07:10:17 pm »
They have a shiny new stadium to pay for.

and if the talk at the end of last season is true, he isn't exactly happy with Pochettino's opinion that he can't play 2 games a week and was keen for a move.

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« Reply #16350 on: July 13, 2017, 07:12:00 pm »
Is that why?  Would be such a shame to waste those years spent building such a fine team
The money has to come from somewhere for it, and 50 million would be a a decent amount. And they have a decent back-up so probably the most expendable high priced asset?
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16351 on: July 13, 2017, 07:53:41 pm »
Good deal for both. Obviously overpriced but City don't give a fuck. They have unlimited cash and fees are mental this summer so they won't care. They have one of the better RBs in the league and a big upgrade on what they had last season. Spurs will be happy as they have £50m to spend now which helps them as they are the most sell to buy team in the top 6 and they won't have to spend any of that on a new RB as they have an instant RB replacement in Trippier. He isn't as good as Walker but is still very good and shouldn't be a huge downgrade with the way Spurs play.

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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16352 on: July 13, 2017, 08:00:16 pm »
Agreed...  he's a better player than stones too.

I just can't understand why spurs are prepared to sell...  makes no sense to me
If we got an offer of 50 million for Clyne, what would you think we should do?

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« Reply #16353 on: July 13, 2017, 08:21:25 pm »
Is that why?  Would be such a shame to waste those years spent building such a fine team

That is probably part of the reason, but if the manager rates Trippier as being basically at the same level, it seems like a nobrainer if they spend the money in an area of greater need.


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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16354 on: July 13, 2017, 08:36:18 pm »
If we got an offer of 50 million for Clyne, what would you think we should do?
I wouldn't take it.  Who would replace him?
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« Reply #16355 on: July 13, 2017, 08:42:15 pm »
I wouldn't take it.  Who would replace him?

That would depend on who we bought for other positions, but if we signed a starting leftback then the combination of Milner and TAA wouldn't be a bad one on the right.

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« Reply #16356 on: July 13, 2017, 09:51:54 pm »
If we got an offer of 50 million for Clyne, what would you think we should do?
Would break their arm. I like him but he's not fantastic. I can't believe City are going to spend  £50,000,000 on Walker. He's not much better than Clyne and the latter isn't even worth half that. What full back could be worth that, even in this market?

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« Reply #16357 on: July 13, 2017, 09:59:35 pm »
The games just wank...50 mill for Walker...it's fuckin nuts.
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Re: General Manchester City thread
« Reply #16358 on: July 13, 2017, 10:02:47 pm »
The transfer market in England is bonkers. Swansea have rejected a 40m pounds bid for their player. So if you think about Walker transfer this way, it's understandable. Also, I think ManCity are now FORCED to sign English players, they have almost none in their squad.

Otherwise, it's hard to understand the fee paid. They really, really overpaid.

I can only sympathize with Guardiola. Barca have been looking for a right back, and there aren't many good ones available. Bellerin, who seems like a limited runner, would cost more than 60-70m. And Arsenal don't even want to sell him, he'd be sold only if he forces his way out. The alternative we found is an unproven kid from Benfica. This is not a question of money, there just aren't enough top quality players available for all.

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« Reply #16359 on: July 13, 2017, 10:40:44 pm »
The transfer market in England is bonkers. Swansea have rejected a 40m pounds bid for their player. So if you think about Walker transfer this way, it's understandable. Also, I think ManCity are now FORCED to sign English players, they have almost none in their squad.

Otherwise, it's hard to understand the fee paid. They really, really overpaid.

I can only sympathize with Guardiola. Barca have been looking for a right back, and there aren't many good ones available. Bellerin, who seems like a limited runner, would cost more than 60-70m. And Arsenal don't even want to sell him, he'd be sold only if he forces his way out. The alternative we found is an unproven kid from Benfica. This is not a question of money, there just aren't enough top quality players available for all.

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