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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #520 on: January 24, 2014, 04:01:12 pm »
   
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Didn't Lucas himself tweet saying it wasn't as bad as feared?
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #521 on: January 24, 2014, 04:02:23 pm »

Didn't Lucas himself tweet saying it wasn't as bad as feared?
I imagine he feared it was an acl.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #522 on: January 24, 2014, 04:23:58 pm »
What's this about Allen?

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #523 on: January 24, 2014, 05:03:10 pm »
What's this about Allen?

Someone on a social networking website said something about hearing that he was injured. Hence it must be true.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #524 on: January 24, 2014, 05:12:52 pm »
Didn't Lucas himself tweet saying it wasn't as bad as feared?

Mid march would be a worst case scenario for these sort of injuries, medial ligament damage grade 2.

I would think him to be back at the beginning of march..
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #525 on: January 24, 2014, 05:15:46 pm »
Someone on a social networking website said something about hearing that he was injured. Hence it must be true.
There was a hint about it in the Independent, and he wasn't in the training pictures, supposedly. And Physioroom won't confirm for me on twitter that he's healthy! ;-) Brendan said a few were ill though, so I expect that's all it is.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #526 on: January 24, 2014, 05:25:36 pm »
There was a hint about it in the Independent, and he wasn't in the training pictures, supposedly. And Physioroom won't confirm for me on twitter that he's healthy! ;-) Brendan said a few were ill though, so I expect that's all it is.

Yeah probably just under the weather so best to keep him away from the rest of the squad.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #527 on: January 24, 2014, 05:32:57 pm »
A lot of injuries, but its more the
To be fair, Sahko and Flanagan are supposed to be back tomorrow, while Coates is looking for an exit sign and not part of the plans. So, it's Johnson, Agger, Lucas and Enrique, in reality.

Sakho still feeling effects of the hamstring injury. Reported in the Echo yesterday.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #528 on: January 24, 2014, 06:45:09 pm »
Yeah probably just under the weather so best to keep him away from the rest of the squad.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #529 on: January 24, 2014, 06:52:18 pm »
Under the weather MY ARSE!  doesn't fancy a physical battle tomorrow!
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #530 on: January 24, 2014, 07:15:37 pm »
Under the weather MY ARSE!  doesn't fancy a physical battle tomorrow!

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #531 on: January 24, 2014, 08:10:15 pm »
Under the weather MY ARSE!  doesn't fancy a physical battle tomorrow!
I know, what a pussy he is, playing with his shoulder hanging off for two months last season and not even saying a word about it as scores of forumites called him soft.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #532 on: January 24, 2014, 09:13:56 pm »
This is getting ridiculous now, no one is this unlucky. What the fuck are these players doing in training?

                G Johnson    Ankle/Foot Injury    no return date    
          L Leiva    MCL Knee Ligament Injury    15th Mar 14    
          D Agger    Calf/Shin Injury    8th Feb 14    
          M Sakho    Hamstring Injury    25th Jan 14    
          J Flanagan    Hamstring Injury    25th Jan 14    
          J Enrique    Knee Injury    no return date    
          S Coates    ACL Knee Injury    no return date

Not to mention Allen again apparently.
The calls and requirement to play a largely settled squad AND the fact we'd registered the smallest senior squad at the start of the league? The amount of injuries is not really something out of the ordinary. We knew we'd have to deal with injuries even with the small squad we registered, so it's not really a surprise.

Agger's suffered a "long" spell on the sidelines in quite a while and Johnson's been playing with an injury and wasn't on the brandy as had been alleged(man, oh man *smh*). It's Sakho's first season in England.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #533 on: January 24, 2014, 11:09:57 pm »
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/toure-cup-warning-reds-allen-6593001

Allen's injured, copped a knock in training. And Sakho still out as well.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #534 on: January 25, 2014, 01:29:51 am »
Mad thing is everyone reckoned we'd have a fully fit squad to choose from by the end of January but in reality we'll be lucky to put 11 men on the fucking pitch on Tuesday. Just in keeping with the constant farce and misfortune that has dogged this club for years.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #535 on: January 25, 2014, 01:33:48 am »
Fuck me, Allen's out as well? If he's out against Everton as well, we're fucked.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #536 on: January 25, 2014, 01:53:37 am »
Are our injuries actually worse than those around us though?  I haven't really paid attention to them, but I suspect we just feel it more...
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #537 on: January 25, 2014, 02:34:31 am »
Are our injuries actually worse than those around us though?  I haven't really paid attention to them, but I suspect we just feel it more...

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #538 on: January 25, 2014, 03:03:51 am »
For fucks sake. We can't go in to Everton with 2 in the middle, we just can't. Alberto will have to play.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #539 on: January 25, 2014, 05:49:43 am »
Players are always going to get knocks so injuries are inevitable, but its frustrating to see how many muscle injuries (aka the "pulled groin" or "hamstring") we've suffered so far this season. Surely these injuries are fatigue related and are bound to happen with such a thin squad, particularly during the busier fixture periods.

For example, Gerrard suffered his 'hammy' 60 minutes into West Ham, following 90 minutes against Hull, 90 minutes vs Norwich... all in the space of 7 days.
Flanagan wasn't used to playing 2 games per week, so the busy Christmas period burned him out, similarly for Sakho (Man City and Chelsea games in particular).

In effect a larger squad does two things: firstly, it allows adequate cover for when players do pick injuries; and secondly, avoids injuries in the first place due to fatigue.

Assuming we can get players back from injuries and avoid having as many as we've had until now the rest of the way we might be able to survive this season without major additions. However, if we make Europe next season we'll need at least 4-5 additions over the summer (one attacker/winger, 2 midfielders, 1 defender/fullback, and a better backup goalie)

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #540 on: January 25, 2014, 07:12:56 am »
Players are always going to get knocks so injuries are inevitable, but its frustrating to see how many muscle injuries (aka the "pulled groin" or "hamstring") we've suffered so far this season. Surely these injuries are fatigue related and are bound to happen with such a thin squad, particularly during the busier fixture periods.

For example, Gerrard suffered his 'hammy' 60 minutes into West Ham, following 90 minutes against Hull, 90 minutes vs Norwich... all in the space of 7 days.
Flanagan wasn't used to playing 2 games per week, so the busy Christmas period burned him out, similarly for Sakho (Man City and Chelsea games in particular).

In effect a larger squad does two things: firstly, it allows adequate cover for when players do pick injuries; and secondly, avoids injuries in the first place due to fatigue.

Assuming we can get players back from injuries and avoid having as many as we've had until now the rest of the way we might be able to survive this season without major additions. However, if we make Europe next season we'll need at least 4-5 additions over the summer (one attacker/winger, 2 midfielders, 1 defender/fullback, and a better backup goalie)
A larger squad won't help if Gerrard is kept on for 90 minutes when we were cruising against Norwich with options on the bench.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #541 on: January 25, 2014, 08:18:52 am »
Shite. When Agger started to string a handful of games together last season I thought we were on to something, now it seems like we're imploding with injuries. Haven't got any knowledge whatsoever to why we seem to be so injury-prone even though we've had plenty opportunities to rest during the season, is it just sheer bad luck or a pattern?

Edit: Cheers rickardinho1, but with the lesser amount of games this season, is our squad really that thin compared to the amount of matches we play? Gerrard and a few other players I can understand, but surely most of our players should be able to cope with a game per week, with the odd exception of two games a week every now and then? Am I being naive? :)
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Really thought Martin Kelly would make it.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #542 on: January 25, 2014, 08:34:33 am »
Shite. When Agger started to string a handful of games together last season I thought we were on to something, now it seems like we're imploding with injuries. Haven't got any knowledge whatsoever to why we seem to be so injury-prone even though we've had plenty opportunities to rest during the season, is it just sheer bad luck or a pattern?

We do make injuries worse by playing players injured rather than allowing them to heal properly. So a potential few weeks turns into a few months with surgery needed. It's happened with Enrique and Johnson this season which hasn't helped us at full back and made things worse. We did it with Allen and Borini last season.

We let that doctor go and the fitness coach (Bruckner/Burgess). Have they been sufficiently replaced? I know they'd insist against playing players injured if it was going to make the injury worse.
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Re: Current injury updates?
« Reply #543 on: January 25, 2014, 08:35:05 am »
For fucks sake. We can't go in to Everton with 2 in the middle, we just can't. Alberto will have to play.
Probably have only 2 options?                                     
This 3-5-2:                                     
                                  Kelly       Skrtel      Toure
               
                     Sterling     Gerrard    Henderson   Flanagan
                                             
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                                   Suarez             Sturridge

or this 4-3-3 against Everton:
 
                        Kelly          Skrtel        Toure         Flanagan
               
                                      Gerrard        Henderson   
                                             
                                                Alberto
                                     
                           Sturridge        Suarez          Sterling

Could swap Coutinho for Kelly & shift Sterling to RB if chasing a goal.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #544 on: January 25, 2014, 08:41:47 am »
Players are always going to get knocks so injuries are inevitable, but its frustrating to see how many muscle injuries (aka the "pulled groin" or "hamstring") we've suffered so far this season. Surely these injuries are fatigue related and are bound to happen with such a thin squad, particularly during the busier fixture periods.

For example, Gerrard suffered his 'hammy' 60 minutes into West Ham, following 90 minutes against Hull, 90 minutes vs Norwich... all in the space of 7 days.
Flanagan wasn't used to playing 2 games per week, so the busy Christmas period burned him out, similarly for Sakho (Man City and Chelsea games in particular).

In effect a larger squad does two things: firstly, it allows adequate cover for when players do pick injuries; and secondly, avoids injuries in the first place due to fatigue.

Assuming we can get players back from injuries and avoid having as many as we've had until now the rest of the way we might be able to survive this season without major additions. However, if we make Europe next season we'll need at least 4-5 additions over the summer (one attacker/winger, 2 midfielders, 1 defender/fullback, and a better backup goalie)

That's the annoying this for me. These injuries in a lot of cases could be avoidable. We tried to play Gerrard 90+ minutes 3 times in 6 days against Hull (Sunday) Norwich (Wednesday) and West Ham (Saturday). Towards the end of the third game he gets a muscle injury. Who could have predicted that?  ::) There was no need for him to even play against Norwich in the second half as the game was well won by half time. We don't help ourselves. Agger got injured towards the end of the Oldham game which was only a few days after he'd played 90+ minutes at Chelsea. Allen played injured against Chelsea and then made that worse forcing him to miss the next few weeks. Johnson's been playing injured for months and how he's fucked.

I don't think our lack of rotation helps. It's like O'Neill's Villa were the same players are used every game so when there's an injury the player that does come in isn't physically used to regular game time, plus the players that are playing 90 every week get fatigued which leads to injuries.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #545 on: January 25, 2014, 08:42:59 am »
Does anybody know the extent of Allens injury?

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #546 on: January 25, 2014, 10:30:34 am »
Does anybody know the extent of Allens injury?
Somewhere between "He Is out for a month, we are doomed, the bitters will tear us apart on Tuesday" and " Its very minor, wouldn't have played in the cup anyway, he will be fine to help destroy the BS in the week".
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #547 on: January 25, 2014, 11:06:30 am »
Does anybody know the extent of Allens injury?

I heard he took one from a month late tackle by Eto'o so who knows

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #548 on: January 25, 2014, 11:12:15 am »
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #549 on: January 25, 2014, 11:17:55 am »
noth official about Joe Allen being injured, unless someone can post a link ?

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #550 on: January 25, 2014, 11:18:52 am »
noth official about Joe Allen being injured, unless someone can post a link ?

It was in the echo.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #552 on: January 25, 2014, 06:56:14 pm »
noth official about Joe Allen being injured, unless someone can post a link ?

Said during todays match commentary that there is a chance that he can make Tuesdays game, but sounded far from certain.
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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #554 on: January 25, 2014, 08:31:32 pm »
It's out of date, Flanno played today.

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #555 on: January 26, 2014, 11:43:16 am »
Said during todays match commentary that there is a chance that he can make Tuesdays game, but sounded far from certain.

heard that myself,, not sure what decent info ITV have nowadays ?  hopefully he is fit for Tuesday as the midfield is unbalanced with Gerrard playing deep, Henderson seems in a rut aswell,  I'm sure the prospect of the Derby will get players back in the groove

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #556 on: January 27, 2014, 04:11:17 pm »
So our best possible defenders are pretty much all out injured for at least 2-3 weeks?

Johnson - no return date
Agger - still a few weeks
Sakho - 2-3 weeks
Enrique - nobody knows

Add to that:

Lucas - some time in March?
Coates - no return date

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #557 on: January 27, 2014, 04:21:58 pm »
Good job this injury crisis has occured while the transfer window is open innit?

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #558 on: January 27, 2014, 04:23:41 pm »
Good job this injury crisis has occured while the transfer window is open innit?

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Re: Current injury updates? not a transfer speculation thread
« Reply #559 on: January 27, 2014, 04:23:56 pm »
Good job this injury crisis has occured while the transfer window is open innit?
Yeah but thakfully we've strengthened a lot in this window so not too worried.