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« Reply #67320 on: December 24, 2021, 07:16:03 pm »
From recent history about 1.5m tests per day.
We’ve been doing about 1.6 m a day for the last week or so… maybe we’ve hit it here too?

On the face of it, case rate per 100k are very similar in the U.K. and Ireland right now.
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« Reply #67321 on: December 24, 2021, 07:30:20 pm »
How do we know what their limit of testing is?  What is it in the U.K.?
For Ireland it’s just a case of seeing how quickly their testing appointments disappear once released. They’ve been all but booked up within 30 minutes of release the past few days.

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« Reply #67322 on: December 24, 2021, 07:40:17 pm »
We’ve been doing about 1.6 m a day for the last week or so… maybe we’ve hit it here too?

On the face of it, case rate per 100k are very similar in the U.K. and Ireland right now.
For UK our PCR testing capacity is about 850k per day currently (from the dashboard), and we did just under 600k PCR tests on the 19th. It’s not reached it’s limit yet but it will be close to it for some regions perhaps. I don’t think the remaining capacity would be evenly spread across the UK.

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« Reply #67323 on: December 24, 2021, 07:56:43 pm »
For Ireland it’s just a case of seeing how quickly their testing appointments disappear once released. They’ve been all but booked up within 30 minutes of release the past few days.
Makes perfect sense…

For UK our PCR testing capacity is about 850k per day currently (from the dashboard), and we did just under 600k PCR tests on the 19th. It’s not reached it’s limit yet but it will be close to it for some regions perhaps. I don’t think the remaining capacity would be evenly spread across the UK.
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« Reply #67324 on: December 24, 2021, 09:14:31 pm »
Ireland reached the limit of their testing capacity a few days ago. They’re no longer identifying the majority of infections.

Think it will be a rough couple of weeks in Ireland and their hospitals, but hopefully it should pass quickly.

I'm hoping the incredible booster campaign will mitigate the worst of it. Maybe we've got in just ahead of the virus???
 Either way hopefully it will pass quickly as you say.

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« Reply #67325 on: December 25, 2021, 12:56:33 am »
Makes perfect sense…
Really interesting

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« Reply #67326 on: December 25, 2021, 11:42:20 am »
www.nytimes.com/2021/12/24/world/africa/south-africa-covid-quarantine.html

S.  Africa ends quarantine for asymptomatic cases and contact tracing requirements:

South Africa’s government, buoyed by encouraging data showing that infections from the Omicron variant aren’t as severe, has dropped quarantine restrictions for all but symptomatic people.

That includes allowing people who have tested positive but show no symptoms to gather with others, so long as they wear a mask and social distance. A top health official explained that since the variant spreads so quickly, there are likely many infected people socializing with others and it no longer made sense to quarantine only those who have tested themselves.

The move was yet another step toward a slow acceptance that many countries around the world will likely need to find a way to live with Covid, rather than avoid it. The new measures follow recommendations from a committee of experts who called for focusing on vaccinations rather than contact tracing and quarantining.

“There is greater recognition that, in the face of a hyper-contagious variant like this, quarantining and isolation are no longer effective as public health containment measures to contain the virus,” said Professor Francois Venter, a researcher at the University of the Witwatersrand in Johannesburg and a former member of the committee.

The new protocols go into effect immediately, the health ministry said in a notice to local health department heads. The revisions were based on data showing that immunity resulting from previous infections was as high as 80 percent. That, coupled with a vaccination rate of nearly 45 percent among adults in the country, has kept hospitalizations lower, the South African government said.

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« Reply #67327 on: December 25, 2021, 12:45:55 pm »
It feels like a lot of people are seeing the reports that the impact of this version is mild and ignoring it.  I can only see that leading to severe pressure on the NHS in the short term anf maybe some sort of herd immunity. Guess it would have been better if it hit us in the summer .  Gonna be a rough few weeks ahead but the golden sky could he here in spring
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« Reply #67328 on: December 25, 2021, 01:31:38 pm »
It was a good run but I’ve also succumbed to it it seems. Great news to receive at midday on Xmas day  ;D


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« Reply #67329 on: December 25, 2021, 02:13:08 pm »
It was a good run but I’ve also succumbed to it it seems. Great news to receive at midday on Xmas day  ;D


Hope it's the milder version.  I've been asleep most of the morning but otherwise fine. 
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« Reply #67330 on: December 25, 2021, 02:36:58 pm »
Hope it's the milder version.  I've been asleep most of the morning but otherwise fine.

Thanks. You too.

I’ve had a runny/blocked nose and slight cough for 3/4 days. Took 3 lateral flows which were all negative. Decided to do a PCR anyway and tested positive. Yet someone I spent a whole day alongside in close quarters on the same day of the test had a PCR and tested negative despite having the same symptoms.

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« Reply #67331 on: December 25, 2021, 02:38:26 pm »
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« Reply #67332 on: December 25, 2021, 07:45:59 pm »
What is the latest on restrictions?
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« Reply #67333 on: December 25, 2021, 07:49:34 pm »
It feels like a lot of people are seeing the reports that the impact of this version is mild and ignoring it.  I can only see that leading to severe pressure on the NHS in the short term anf maybe some sort of herd immunity. Guess it would have been better if it hit us in the summer .  Gonna be a rough few weeks ahead but the golden sky could he here in spring
Don’t think people are ignoring it but are being more careful than what they were being a few weeks ago. It’s fact that it’s more mild but I don’t think it will lead to the NHS being overwhelmed even with restrictions being as they are now. I think Scotland and Wales have jumped the gun in terms of imposing more severe restrictions from tomorrow and it’s likely they’ll only be in place for a month at the most. As you say, herd immunity is the likely outcome with omicron over the next few months.
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« Reply #67334 on: December 25, 2021, 08:22:48 pm »
What is the latest on restrictions?

Not sure on the restrictions, but the covid app and emails seem hell bent on the 10 days isolation with nothing about the 7 days and two -ve LFT. Which is a bugger as I don't thnk my covid pass will update.
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« Reply #67335 on: December 25, 2021, 08:23:53 pm »
Seems this new variant is mad. I've known 2 people now who have had mild symptoms, tested negative on PCR, then tested again 2 days later through concern about mixing and it's positive. The viral load must be way lower, so either it is a 'weaker' variant or the exposure to vaccines is really doing it's job.

Who knows where we go from here though, you kinda feel the damage has already been done with regards to extra strain on the NHS and you'd expect less mixing in January anyway naturally.

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« Reply #67336 on: December 25, 2021, 08:25:07 pm »
Don’t think people are ignoring it but are being more careful than what they were being a few weeks ago. It’s fact that it’s more mild but I don’t think it will lead to the NHS being overwhelmed even with restrictions being as they are now. I think Scotland and Wales have jumped the gun in terms of imposing more severe restrictions from tomorrow and it’s likely they’ll only be in place for a month at the most. As you say, herd immunity is the likely outcome with omicron over the next few months.

I really hope you are right.  It's already creaking at the seams so won't take a big push.  I guess a lot depends on the definition of 'overwhelemed'. Many would say it has been for months, but the frontline staff are doing superhuman things to keep it functioning.
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« Reply #67337 on: December 25, 2021, 09:01:13 pm »
My brother has tested positive here in Dublin today after having it in July also. He's been very sick the last 24hrs after originally starting to feel shit on Wednesday and getting a test yesterday morning. Seen him Wednesday morning at his house so now have to go for a test tomorrow.
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« Reply #67338 on: December 25, 2021, 09:44:27 pm »
That's me in the Covid Christmas Club as well, and I am really not enjoying it. I would not call this a mild illness but who knows what strain I've got. Last couple of nights have been hell and it's feeling like tonight's not going to be any better! Fingers crossed it starts easing up soon.
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« Reply #67339 on: December 25, 2021, 10:33:55 pm »
Hope all those who've come down with one or more of the variants are fit and well for new year.

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« Reply #67340 on: December 25, 2021, 10:59:22 pm »
Hope all those who've come down with one or more of the variants are fit and well for new year.
Thanks. And same to the rest of you.
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« Reply #67341 on: December 26, 2021, 12:12:41 am »
It was a good run but I’ve also succumbed to it it seems. Great news to receive at midday on Xmas day  ;D



Thanks. You too.

I’ve had a runny/blocked nose and slight cough for 3/4 days. Took 3 lateral flows which were all negative. Decided to do a PCR anyway and tested positive. Yet someone I spent a whole day alongside in close quarters on the same day of the test had a PCR and tested negative despite having the same symptoms.

My brother has tested positive here in Dublin today after having it in July also. He's been very sick the last 24hrs after originally starting to feel shit on Wednesday and getting a test yesterday morning. Seen him Wednesday morning at his house so now have to go for a test tomorrow.
That's me in the Covid Christmas Club as well, and I am really not enjoying it. I would not call this a mild illness but who knows what strain I've got. Last couple of nights have been hell and it's feeling like tonight's not going to be any better! Fingers crossed it starts easing up soon.

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« Reply #67342 on: December 26, 2021, 08:10:56 am »
Hope you feel better soon guys. I had the 'Kent' strain, or whatever it's called now, this time last year. Knocked me out for over a week. Hope your symptoms aren't too horrid.

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« Reply #67343 on: December 26, 2021, 09:06:25 am »
One more for the Christmas covid club. One of our kids sons came around to his house Christmas Eve, staying over to have Christmas Dinner with his maternal grandparents. All did LFTs Christmas day to protect the older people and he tested positive.

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« Reply #67344 on: December 26, 2021, 09:50:33 am »
Hope everyone with it is feeling alright.

We have tested negative everyday despite bad colds but they seem to have cleared up now.

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« Reply #67345 on: December 26, 2021, 09:59:40 am »
Antivaxers posting this all over Twitter.

When it comes to science, they question everything.

When it comes to anonymous storytellers on Facebook, they don’t even question basic maths.

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« Reply #67346 on: December 26, 2021, 10:02:35 am »
What's the maths error?
Id be more concerned about the assertion that two jabs no booster is considered unvaccinated. I can see why they might do that given how ineffective two jabs send to be. Surely not hard to release the truthful figures.
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« Reply #67347 on: December 26, 2021, 10:11:31 am »
What's the maths error?
Id be more concerned about the assertion that two jabs no booster is considered unvaccinated. I can see why they might do that given how ineffective two jabs send to be. Surely not hard to release the truthful figures.

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« Reply #67348 on: December 26, 2021, 10:39:58 am »
What's the maths error?
Id be more concerned about the assertion that two jabs no booster is considered unvaccinated. I can see why they might do that given how ineffective two jabs send to be. Surely not hard to release the truthful figures.

Can’t do a 50:50 split of 45. I wouldn’t be concerned. It’s made up bullshit posted on Facebook by an anonymous troll and has been shown up by the maths error.

The only concern you need have is that crap like this spreads widely, unsourced and unquestioned.

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« Reply #67349 on: December 26, 2021, 10:45:21 am »
Can’t do a 50:50 split of 45. I wouldn’t be concerned. It’s made up bullshit posted on Facebook by an anonymous troll and has been shown up by the maths error.

The only concern you need have is that crap like this spreads widely, unsourced and unquestioned.

People surely don't believe this?
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« Reply #67350 on: December 26, 2021, 11:06:51 am »
22.5 people had their booster?
Ah. That's pedantic even by my standards. One or two either way would be fair . Still utter waffle though.


Has anyone got a code for the app after posting a negative lft. My wife is hoping to get her covid pass back at day 7 she's had a positive PCR five days ago , but never a positive lft ( tests daily) . Bit can't get a code for the covid app. So the app is thinking she has to do the full ten days.
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« Reply #67351 on: December 26, 2021, 11:16:57 am »
Antivaxers posting this all over Twitter.

When it comes to science, they question everything.

When it comes to anonymous storytellers on Facebook, they don’t even question basic maths.

It's always an unnamed source isn't it? I remember back in the a early 1990s unnamed 'senior police officers ' were casting doubt on the innocence of the Birmingham Six and we went through it with all the bullshit leaks about Hillsborough.

And really strange that no one who is unvaccinated is in Maidstone Hospital with Covid.

Never mind mathematical inaccuracies that's the giveaway.

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« Reply #67352 on: December 26, 2021, 11:21:40 am »
I'm no statistician, but given how many people are vaccinated, it's probably not that unlikely that in one group of 45 people that none are unvaccinated.
I wouldn't make a big fuss of fifty/fifty not being exactly possible. If they were using similar arguments I'd think they were just missing the much bigger more important picture.
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« Reply #67353 on: December 26, 2021, 11:24:38 am »
I'm no statistician, but given how many people are vaccinated, it's probably not that unlikely that in one group of 45 people that none are unvaccinated.
I wouldn't make a big fuss of fifty/fifty not being exactly possible. If they were using similar arguments I'd think they were just missing the much bigger more important picture.

I'm no statistician but about 1 in 10 of the population are unvaccinated so you would expect that to be reflected in the inaccurate data mentioned in that bullshit tweet.

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« Reply #67354 on: December 26, 2021, 11:30:45 am »
It's a fair point so Howard. The maths is beyond me. I guess if we factor in how much more likely you are to catch it when unvaccinated..
The bigger problem is that people who follow this bull can't be swayed by logical argument. I dont know how to alter their view. It's a bit like debating with a toddler or cat.  I'm just not equipped to do it . Maybe appealing to some other emotion.
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« Reply #67355 on: December 26, 2021, 11:34:43 am »
It's a fair point so Howard. The maths is beyond me. I guess if we factor in how much more likely you are to catch it when unvaccinated..
The bigger problem is that people who follow this bull can't be swayed by logical argument. I dont know how to alter their view. It's a bit like debating with a toddler or cat.  I'm just not equipped to do it . Maybe appealing to some other emotion.

You can distract a cat or toddler with a bit of fish or a toy.

Once down the rabbit hole distraction is near impossible.

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« Reply #67356 on: December 26, 2021, 11:42:01 am »
People surely don't believe this?

They don't need to believe it. They're simply looking for outside verification to justify their decision.

If you think about it, there's no real way you can argue against an FB post like that without getting bogged down with links, evidence etc. I don't know about you, but I don't have the time or energy to waste doing that.

It's simply a deterrent, a warning not to argue with them, as they will throw a million bits of crap like that at you, and you'd be expected to disprove every single one of them. But do they believe it? Nah.

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« Reply #67357 on: December 26, 2021, 11:54:48 am »
They don't need to believe it. They're simply looking for outside verification to justify their decision.

If you think about it, there's no real way you can argue against an FB post like that without getting bogged down with links, evidence etc. I don't know about you, but I don't have the time or energy to waste doing that.

It's simply a deterrent, a warning not to argue with them, as they will throw a million bits of crap like that at you, and you'd be expected to disprove every single one of them. But do they believe it? Nah.



Exactly, you can't spend your time disproving every single piece of nonsense they come up with,  it would be a never ending task, some of it is just  obvious bollocks but can't be "proven" to be so either.

If someone claims as I saw recently that they knew 5 people who had died after getting the booster, it is very very clearly made up bullshit, but impossible to prove.

Its kind of sad now, anytime someone young dies, it will always be "vaccine did it"

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« Reply #67358 on: December 26, 2021, 11:55:09 am »
Good point red berry. Back to the quote about arguing with idiots.
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« Reply #67359 on: December 26, 2021, 11:55:32 am »
Bit nervous this morning.

Bloke who lives directly opposite me in our block of flats has got a positive test off an LFT. Getting too close for comfort for my liking. Have done my own lateral flow test and all negative though.
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