Topic: I got a 'caution' on the train......

[Ciara (with a capital "C")]

I don’t understand how people think it is acceptable to put your feet on a seat with or without shoes..?

Those who claim their shoes aren’t dirty/got dog shit on them... are you swabbing your choose and testing them before putting them on a seat? Are you fuck! I see it all the time in London - mostly younger people but it is dreadful manners IMO.

And those claiming to take their shoes off first? Yes, because I’d love to sit near smelly/sweaty feet or on a seat that just had your feet on them.

Someone made a good point on a previous page - if you went into someone’s house you wouldn’t put your feet up on their sofa with shoes on, or  socks I’d imagine.

Surely people know not to do this? I agree with the fines but not having something like that on your record.

[mikeb58]

Plummy, stuck up student had her feet on the seat yesterday, her stuck up plummy student boyfriend sat opposite doing the same on a packed train into Lime Street.

I took great pleasure if telling them to get their feet off the seat, and let me sit down, selfish pair of out of town fuckers.

They where talking shit too, which further annoyed me!

[Jake]

Plummy, stuck up student had her feet on the seat yesterday, her stuck up plummy student boyfriend sat opposite doing the same on a packed train into Lime Street.

I took great pleasure if telling them to get their feet off the seat, and let me sit down, selfish pair of out of town fuckers.

They where talking shit too, which further annoyed me!

There once was a bloke called Mike
Who got the train instead of riding his bike
He said "oi thats my seat
so please remove your feet"
And they told him to go take a hike



Nah, if there's others on the train who might want to sit down, fair enough they're selfish arseholes.

Still waiting on someone to tell me if all the other byelaws I quoted on the last page should result in a crimal record though

[mikeb58]

There once was a bloke called Mike
Who got the train instead of riding his bike
He said "oi thats my seat
so please remove your feet"
And they told him to go take a hike

Haha..brill!

There was once a bloke called Jake.
Who had a witty response to make.
In limerick style, right up my street.
About people with feet upon seat.
A typical little RAWK post piss take!

[Tesco tearaway]

Haha..brill!

There was once a bloke called Jake.
Who had a witty response to make.
In limerick style, right up my street.
About people with feet on the seat.
A humorous little ditty for my sake!

There was once a fella from Lunt.
An' he was an absolute c*nt.
He got on the train.
In the pouring down rain.
And had a shit in the corner.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Its not the conductors, they have squads of 'by-law enforcement officers' that do it.

Same question.

I bet they do.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I don’t understand how people think it is acceptable to put your feet on a seat with or without shoes..?

Those who claim their shoes aren’t dirty/got dog shit on them... are you swabbing your choose and testing them before putting them on a seat? Are you fuck! I see it all the time in London - mostly younger people but it is dreadful manners IMO.

And those claiming to take their shoes off first? Yes, because I’d love to sit near smelly/sweaty feet or on a seat that just had your feet on them.

Someone made a good point on a previous page - if you went into someone’s house you wouldn’t put your feet up on their sofa with shoes on, or  socks I’d imagine.

Surely people know not to do this? I agree with the fines but not having something like that on your record.

Your feet

[kesey]

There was once a fella from Lunt.
An' he was an absolute c*nt.
He got on the train.
In the pouring down rain.
And had a shit in the corner.

There once was a lad called Tesco
Who once was a member of U.N.E.S.C.O
He does post on RAWK
An ' he laughs with a squawk
An' he's boss at the arl manifesto

[kesey]

There once was a bloke called Mike
Who got the train instead of riding his bike
He said "oi thats my seat
so please remove your feet"
And they told him to go take a hike



Nah, if there's others on the train who might want to sit down, fair enough they're selfish arseholes.

Still waiting on someone to tell me if all the other byelaws I quoted on the last page should result in a crimal record though

There once was a  young lad called Jake
Who had a head like Wakefield cake
He supports the Reds
He maybe a ted
An ' hopefully he's not too opaque

[Crosby Nick]

There once was a  young lad called Jake
Who had a head like Wakefield cake
He supports the Reds
He maybe a ted
An ' hopefully he's not too opaque

There once was a young lad called Kesey
Making fun of him isn’t easy
I’d say that his mum
Has a really nice bum
But I don’t want to come across as too sleazy

[kesey]

There once was a young lad called Kesey
Making fun of him isn’t easy
I’d say that his mum
Has a really nice bum
But I don’t want to come across as too sleazy

There was a young lad call Nick
Who may get a fat fucking lip
If he speaks about me Mum
And her bum
It would be over so incredibly quick

 

[afc tukrish]

There was once a fella from Lunt.
An' he was an absolute c*nt.
He got on the train.
In the pouring down rain.
And had a shit in the corner.

There was once a fella from Lunt.
An' he was an absolute c*nt.
He got on the train.
In the pouring down rain.
Had a shit before taking a punt.

[kesey]

There was once a fella from Lunt.
An' he was an absolute c*nt.
He got on the train.
In the pouring down rain.
Had a shit before taking a punt.

There once was a lad called Turkish
Who's comments may seem churlish
We know he is sound
As a Scouse pound
Quite possibly a whirling dervish

[WhereAngelsPlay]

There once was a lad called Turkish
Who's comments may seem churlish
We know he is sound
As a Scouse pound
Quite possibly a whirling dervish

 

[kesey]

 

I got a Grade C in English Lit in School but a B + in Wordsmithery .

[afc tukrish]

There once was a lad called Turkish
Who's comments may seem churlish
We know he is sound
As a Scouse pound
Quite possibly a whirling dervish

 

Tesco's was funnier because it neither rhymed nor scanned...

Been laughing about it all evening...

[Peabee]

There once was a young lad called Kesey
Making fun of him isn’t easy
I’d say that his mum
Has a really nice bum
But I don’t want to come across as too sleazy

There once was a fella called Nick
Who claimed that he had a big dick
He’d tie it in knots
In case he forgot
But pissing was messy and frantic

[McrRed]

Checks date. Nope not April the first...

[So… Howard Philips]

Plummy, stuck up student had her feet on the seat yesterday, her stuck up plummy student boyfriend sat opposite doing the same on a packed train into Lime Street.

I took great pleasure if telling them to get their feet off the seat, and let me sit down, selfish pair of out of town fuckers.

They where talking shit too, which further annoyed me!

You should have performed a citizen's arrest.

[Tesco tearaway]

There once was a lad called Tesco
Who once was a member of U.N.E.S.C.O
He does post on RAWK
An ' he laughs with a squawk
An' he's boss at the arl manifesto

Ha! Nice one

[kesey]

Ha! Nice one

In hindsight al fresco could've been squeezed in somewhere.

[kesey]

You should have performed a citizen's arrest.

There once was a lad called Howard
An ' we all think he's very high powered
He' s a very good lad
An' he aint too bad
An ' we all think he's been elderflowerd

* Modified *

This title race does things to us eh ?

[Mumm-Ra]

There once was a lad called Howard
An ' we all think he's very high powered
He' s a very good lad
An' he aint too bad
An ' we all think he's been elderflowerd

* Modified *

This title race does things to us eh ?

There was a fella called Howard
His libido was quite high-powered
He liked a lass with full lips
Told her "my last name is Phillips
And I'd like to see you deflowered"

[wampa1]

I don’t understand how people think it is acceptable to put your feet on a seat with or without shoes..?

It's definitely a bit scummy. Up there with littering.

[kesey]

It's definitely a bit scummy. Up there with littering.

But the question is ... Should it be worthy of a criminal record ?

Example .

A person could lose their job or not even get a job until the ' convinction ' is spent which I the think with stuff like this it's one year or two. Also. A ' convinction ' may go against a fella trying to get access to his child or children.

Let the latter seep in.

[CheshireDave]

What happens if you just straight up refuse to give your details?

Just off at the next stop?

[Jake]

But the question is ... Should it be worthy of a criminal record ?

Example .

A person could lose their job or not even get a job until the ' convinction ' is spent which I the think with stuff like this it's one year or two. Also. A ' convinction ' may go against a fella trying to get access to his child or children.

Let the latter seep in.

Exactly. Although a caution for train seatery wouldn't go against someone at all trying to see their kids, but the rest of it stands.

If I got a caution, my entire career path changes., maybe that's why I'm so against it. And to be honest, noone has said they're for cautions, they just say train seat feet is a bad thing to do. As is not calling your mum but plenty don't do it.

[eddymunster]

What happens if you just straight up refuse to give your details?

Just off at the next stop?

Ye, same thing happened to me, I asked what happens if I don't give my details and they made me get off at the next stop.

[J_Kopite]

Ye, same thing happened to me, I asked what happens if I don't give my details and they made me get off at the next stop.

That's the punishment of last recourse? Free travel? They'll probably also give you a complimentary fare-dodger's colouring book.

[CheshireDave]

Ye, same thing happened to me, I asked what happens if I don't give my details and they made me get off at the next stop.

Beats a fine and potential criminal record.

[CheshireDave]

Someone made a good point on a previous page - if you went into someone’s house you wouldn’t put your feet up on their sofa with shoes on, or  socks I’d imagine.

I think putting your feet on someone's sofa is unlikely to result in a fine and potential criminal record.

[Danny Boys Dad]

I think putting your feet on someone's sofa is unlikely to result in a fine and potential criminal record.

It might for the owner of the sofa

[eddymunster]

That's the punishment of last recourse? Free travel? They'll probably also give you a complimentary fare-dodger's colouring book.

I think for someone on a train with three people in the carriage a polite "can you put your feet down please?" should suffice rather than the way they handled it. He hadn't even told me I was getting a fine or any kind of punishment when he was asking for my details.

 I had to ask him what he wanted my details for, he told me, I said and what if I don't tell you? He said I'd have to get off at the next stop.

[eddymunster]

The whole way this is implemented is underhand, if it's a problem you want to prevent, how about some signs?

Feet on seat = £100 fine, this would be far more effective in prevention than waiting for people to do it to spring a fine on them. Mainly because they have to do it before you stop them.

It's blatantly just a way of creaming cash from half drunk people on empty trains on the way home.

[Alan_X]

But the question is ... Should it be worthy of a criminal record ?

Example .

A person could lose their job or not even get a job until the ' convinction ' is spent which I the think with stuff like this it's one year or two. Also. A ' convinction ' may go against a fella trying to get access to his child or children.

Let the latter seep in.

You could put it the other way - why would you risk fucking up your life and possibly miss out on seeing your kid just for the sake of putting your feet on a train seat? I get the train twice a day to work and travel up and down the country on trains and somehow, my feet manage to stay clear of the seat opposite.

The bye-laws are there to deal with obnoxious gobshites. The OP probably isn't an obnoxious gobshite and he might have been dealing with a pedantic jobsworth but the bottom line is till that he could have avoided it all with literally no effort.

[eddymunster]

You could put it the other way - why would you risk fucking up your life and possibly miss out on seeing your kid just for the sake of putting your feet on a train seat? I get the train twice a day to work and travel up and down the country on trains and somehow, my feet manage to stay clear of the seat opposite.

The bye-laws are there to deal with obnoxious gobshites. The OP probably isn't an obnoxious gobshite and he might have been dealing with a pedantic jobsworth but the bottom line is till that he could have avoided it all with literally no effort.

Not if he didn't know it was a crime.

[Alan_X]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562141/Feet-on-seat-student-escapes-conviction.html

[CheshireDave]

but the bottom line is till that he could have avoided it all with literally no effort.

Exactly. All he'd need to do is not give his details to these goons on a money making exercise punishing something which has almost zero negative impact on anyone.

There is plenty of archaic railway bylaws which are not enforced just because rail companies are clearly just going after low hanging fruit.

[CheshireDave]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1562141/Feet-on-seat-student-escapes-conviction.html

Refreshing to see the court exercising common sense.

[eddymunster]

Exactly. All he'd need to do is not give his details to these goons on a money making exercise punishing something which has almost zero negative impact on anyone.

There is plenty of archaic railway bylaws which are not enforced just because rail companies are clearly just going after low hanging fruit.

"Merseyrail is the only train operating company which prosecutes passengers for putting their feet on seats and has taken around 250 people to court since launching the scheme in February"

How can only one company enforce this old law?

Can I start a company and just start lashing out fines for people being pissed in pubs as it's illegal under the Criminal Justice Act of 1968? (apparently according to a quick google of old UK laws that are still enforceable)