Author Topic: Welcome to Liverpool Ryan Jiro Gravenberch (Read 153948 times)

mullyred94 · « **Reply #1560 on:** February 17, 2024, 04:14:49 pm »

Seemed to have learnt a bit based on todays performance.

Shame he won't get a preseason with Klopp as I honestly think they would get him way better tactically over a preseason.

masher · « **Reply #1561 on:** February 17, 2024, 04:16:52 pm »

Probably his best game for us, looked like he was getting to grips with the pace and physicality. Said it before, time to judge him will be next season with a full preseason under his belt.

Knight · « **Reply #1562 on:** February 17, 2024, 05:08:24 pm »

Ball just sticks to him when he’s in full flow, lovely to see. That plus the off the ball work today is a great combo.

stockdam · « **Reply #1563 on:** February 17, 2024, 05:12:26 pm »

I thought this was his best game for a while. He has an ability to glide past people but he does need to work on retaining or winning the ball and the signs are that he has been working on doing so. He has all the attributes of being an excellent player if he works on his pressing and tackling.

PEG2K · « **Reply #1564 on:** February 17, 2024, 05:12:34 pm »

He's just as inconsistent as always. There was a moment in the first half when he escaped pressure with Iniesta-like footwork, but then failed to release the ball right after that. Maybe a coach with focus on short passing like Alonso can sort him out.

disgraced cake · « **Reply #1565 on:** February 17, 2024, 05:14:00 pm »

Don't think it was his best game for us but he was really good when he came on. In general he's done quite well so far with Liverpool, showing glimpses of the player he may promise to become. Big chance for him to fight for more minutes going forward now, would start him against Luton.

Lynndenberries · « **Reply #1566 on:** February 18, 2024, 12:00:19 pm »

Good game from him yesterday, especially under those circumstances. Felt like he was more involved defensively and made a few tackles that led to counters.

Given our current injury situation, he will be important the next few months.

Sinyoro · « **Reply #1567 on:** February 18, 2024, 12:53:58 pm »

Very good game, looked fitter and more tactically aware of his role.

Long may it continue

Persephone · « **Reply #1568 on:** February 18, 2024, 01:49:20 pm »

It's up to him now to grab a first 11 spot, with no Curtis or Szobo we're pretty bare in midfield now. He's had the time to settle in and learn the way we play, now is his opportunity. He's got a chance to start in a Cup Final, and show why Jürgen chose him.

BeingJohnMarkovic · « **Reply #1569 on:** February 18, 2024, 06:54:09 pm »

Used his physicality a lot more yesterday which was good to see. He's a big lad and should be looking to dominate. The way he glides with the ball is really nice to watch.

Knight · « **Reply #1570 on:** February 18, 2024, 07:01:48 pm »

He’s become a lot more important all of a sudden. Don’t have the luxury of waiting for him to get up to speed anymore with both Jones and Szoboslai out he’s going to be starting a lot.

Saus76 · « **Reply #1571 on:** February 18, 2024, 07:25:52 pm »

Time to step up now. The ability is obviously there, although I am bit underwhelmed so far. Done better yesterday and hopefully he can deputise whilst others are out. Good luck lad.

kasperoff · « **Reply #1572 on:** February 19, 2024, 06:58:38 pm »

Needs some time. There is a top player in there. Has all the attributes.

Kloppage Time · « **Reply #1573 on:** February 19, 2024, 07:01:48 pm »

He's only 21! give him a break, for some reason there is a far greater weight of expectation on him than others of his age

lionel_messias · « **Reply #1574 on:** February 19, 2024, 09:38:03 pm »

Quote from: Kloppage Time on February 19, 2024, 07:01:48 pm

He's only 21! give him a break, for some reason there is a far greater weight of expectation on him than others of his age

True he's young but he was heralded as a major talent at a very early age. Had two big managers at Bayern who have not really got into his head or thought of him as a first-teamer. Still seems a bit raw, now sadly his few months with Klopp will have to be a crash course.

That said, if he can grab his chance, maybe just maybe there is someone who knows a thing or two about midfield play on the horizon.

spinaltapped · « **Reply #1575 on:** February 19, 2024, 10:33:44 pm »

Quote from: lionel_messias on February 19, 2024, 09:38:03 pm

True he's young but he was heralded as a major talent at a very early age. Had two big managers at Bayern who have not really got into his head or thought of him as a first-teamer. Still seems a bit raw, now sadly his few months with Klopp will have to be a crash course.

That said, if he can grab his chance, maybe just maybe there is someone who knows a thing or two about midfield play on the horizon.

If the possible happens and Xabi ends up as our manager, I can't imagine a manager who would be able to work with and refine his attributes more than him.

Dutch56 · « **Reply #1576 on:** February 20, 2024, 02:15:02 am »

He goes missing during games a problem he already had with Ajax and is better with open space so he can run. A squad player, nothing more IMO.

B0151? · « **Reply #1577 on:** February 20, 2024, 09:48:23 am »

Quote from: Kloppage Time on February 19, 2024, 07:01:48 pm

He's only 21! give him a break, for some reason there is a far greater weight of expectation on him than others of his age

I imagine it's the same clowns and divvys that were writing off young Curtis, I'd pay them no mind. Just like Jones, the talent is already evident with Grav. Just needs time and work to put it together on consistent basis. Only 21 as you say.

Draex · « **Reply #1578 on:** February 20, 2024, 09:50:58 am »

Quote from: Dutch56 on February 20, 2024, 02:15:02 am

He goes missing during games a problem he already had with Ajax and is better with open space so he can run. A squad player, nothing more IMO.

No he doesn't, he just isn't fully intune with how we press which is so tightly tuned one player a yard out of sync and it causes problems.

He was much improved against Brentford, certainly suits the left sided midfield role better, he was winning duels, beating men and contributing in both attack/defence.

Djibriliant · « **Reply #1579 on:** February 20, 2024, 10:36:55 am »

He needs to run himself into the ground on Sunday, then I think he will be fine.

Dutch56 · « **Reply #1580 on:** February 20, 2024, 01:21:55 pm »

Quote from: Draex on February 20, 2024, 09:50:58 am

No he doesn't, he just isn't fully intune with how we press which is so tightly tuned one player a yard out of sync and it causes problems.

He was much improved against Brentford, certainly suits the left sided midfield role better, he was winning duels, beating men and contributing in both attack/defence.

He was improved because there was a lot space between the lines of Brentford. I hope he continue’s but I won’t hold my breath.

cipher · « **Reply #1581 on:** February 20, 2024, 03:22:23 pm »

He's only 21. In three years he will still only be 24 which is the average age of many of our signings in the Klopp era. People always talk about signing players before they become great/world class, we'll this is often what it looks like.

This kid has all the skill in the world and if he combines that with required hard work on the training pitch (looking at you Raheem) and gym he is going to be a monster player for us in the future.

There are many reasons why I'm hoping Alonso is our next manager, but his potential influence on midfielders like Mac, Szobo and Ryan are one of the main ones.

killer-heels · « **Reply #1582 on:** February 20, 2024, 03:24:55 pm »

Of all the players i reckon he will be the most nervous. Klopp and the coaches clearly have rated him and show belief in him for a long time but he will be acutely aware that a number of managers havent done that.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #1583 on:** February 20, 2024, 03:26:13 pm »

Quote from: killer-heels on February 20, 2024, 03:24:55 pm

Of all the players i reckon he will be the most nervous. Klopp and the coaches clearly have rated him and show belief in him for a long time but he will be acutely aware that a number of managers havent done that.

A new manager is a chance for everyone to show their worth. Once he's had the benefit of a proper pre-season we will see what he is truly capable of.

rawcusk8 · « **Reply #1584 on:** February 20, 2024, 03:30:29 pm »

Surely nailed on to start tomorrow? It’s the type of game you really want him to show his skill, no disrespect to Luton of course.

TheMan · « **Reply #1585 on:** February 20, 2024, 03:45:32 pm »

good player but needs to chip in with a few goals and really contribute in the next few weeks

Samie · « **Reply #1586 on:** February 20, 2024, 03:46:37 pm »

We need him to channel his inner Ruud Gullit this week.

Redley · « **Reply #1587 on:** February 20, 2024, 04:21:22 pm »

Quote from: Djibriliant on February 20, 2024, 10:36:55 am

He needs to run himself into the ground on Sunday, then I think he will be fine.

We need someone to test his resolve, ideally.

Kloppage Time · « **Reply #1588 on:** February 21, 2024, 07:01:45 pm »

Cometh the hour ....

(worked for Kelleher)

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #1589 on:** February 21, 2024, 07:02:44 pm »

Quote from: Samie on February 20, 2024, 03:46:37 pm

We need him to channel his inner Ruud Gullit this week.

Which former Dutch player have you used for Cody?

jepovic · « **Reply #1590 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:29:56 pm »

Really good, his best game so far. Pressing was levels above previous games

TipTopKop · « **Reply #1591 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:30:54 pm »

Very good today, well done to him.

JP! · « **Reply #1592 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:32:24 pm »

best game for us?

wampa1 · « **Reply #1593 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:33:11 pm »

Quote from: JP! on February 21, 2024, 09:32:24 pm

best game for us?

No, at home v Toulouse.

Lynndenberries · « **Reply #1594 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:33:15 pm »

Starting to attempt and win duels in the middle. Good game again for us.

AmanShah21 · « **Reply #1595 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:33:52 pm »

Best overall performance. Clear signs that he can be an absolute monster midfielder if he keeps this trajectory on. Excellent work off the ball. Think he starts the cup final based on that.

Draex · « **Reply #1596 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:34:00 pm »

Feels like when Morphius says to Trinity "he's starting to believe".. Keeps getting better and better.

MonsLibpool · « **Reply #1597 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:34:06 pm »

He's playing harder and I love it.

JP! · « **Reply #1598 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:34:40 pm »

Quote from: wampa1 on February 21, 2024, 09:33:11 pm

No, at home v Toulouse.

Yeah he was good there too. There are some very nice glimpses of what we have got in this lad.

jonnypb · « **Reply #1599 on:** February 21, 2024, 09:43:36 pm »

Keep forgetting that he’s only 21.