Topic: Raheem Shaquille Sterling

[No Appreciation of Liverpool Opposition]

it isn't that penalty wasn't because he beat some guy was clear on goal or something. it wasn't even a penalty it was outside the box and he didn't do anything.

[Funky_Gibbons]

it isn't that penalty wasn't because he beat some guy was clear on goal or something. it wasn't even a penalty it was outside the box and he didn't do anything.

It was inside the box. The first contact happened outside the box but he was clearly tugged back inside.

It was soft but it was a penalty.

The fact that he made that run after playing a one-two with Suarez shows good play. Just because he wasn't through on goal doesn't mean he doesn't deserve any credit for it. 

[DanA]

it isn't that penalty wasn't because he beat some guy was clear on goal or something. it wasn't even a penalty it was outside the box and he didn't do anything.

You say he didn't do anything, I say he showed initiative getting forward and good positioning. It asked a difficult question of the defender which led to said defender making a mistake and giving away a soft penalty. If it was outside (i'm unsure) then it was only by inches and very well could have been a penalty.  I don't think it could be described as anything but good play on Sterling's part.

[dannylfc_1]

I think sometimes as a winger you can turn in really good performances or really bad ones, it just depends on your involvement in the game and that little bit of luck you need in one v one situations. I think Sterling is a great prospect for us.

[SlowRap]

thats really not indicative of good play

Of course it is, understanding in a one-two with Suarez then bursting into the box.

[Juan Loco]

Fucking hell.

Sorry, but that's all.

[Paul JH]

He's 18?!?! Why didn't someone say so?!?!

 

[Juan Loco]

He's 18?!?! Why didn't someone say so?!?!

 

You know just because something is said a lot, it doesn't necessarily have to dilute the strength of the argument. Like, I know someone probably said it last week, as well as this week, but unlike on DER EXBOCKS lads can't develop several years worth of time in the space of a week.

[CHOPPER]

Fucking hell.

Sorry, but that's all.

And you a RAWK writerer as well. Shame on you.

[No Appreciation of Liverpool Opposition]

Of course it is, understanding in a one-two with Suarez then bursting into the box.

he wasnt playing well yesterday and i stand by that.

[Funky_Gibbons]

he wasnt playing well yesterday and i stand by that.

He won a penalty and created more chances than any other player in the team. Only Gerrard played more passes in the attacking third of the pitch.

He wasn't great but considering Toure, Henderson and Wisdom have played worse in that position I think he deserves some credit.

[SlowRap]

he wasnt playing well yesterday and i stand by that.

Considering he was played out of position and slated by home "fans" every time he made a mistake I think he did alright.

[The 1989 Brit Awards]

Considering he was played out of position and slated by home "fans" every time he made a mistake I think he did alright.

He was?

[rednich85]

He was?

I didn't realise he was a wing back.

[The 1989 Brit Awards]

I didn't realise he was a wing back.

As a normal winger he still has to track back a lot to defend under Rodgers' system. It's not like he was playing as GK.

[rednich85]

As a normal winger he still has to track back a lot to defend under Rodgers' system. It's not like he was playing as GK.

But he was playing in a new role. Just because he's on the same side of the pitch doesn't mean it's an easy transition.

[The 1989 Brit Awards]

But he was playing in a new role. Just because he's on the same side of the pitch doesn't mean it's an easy transition.

C'mon  you have to admit they're very similar.

[Lynndenberries]

C'mon  you have to admit they're very similar.

No. Actually they're not

[The 1989 Brit Awards]

No. Actually they're not

[Col]

I'd quite like to see him get some more playing time in a team that like to play in a similar style - a Swansea, or Southampton perhaps.

A 6-month loan deal once the Christmas period is over could do him the world of good, and a spell in a first team might even help him sneak into the World Cup squad as the token surprise package.

[PhaseOfPlay]

No. Actually they're not

They are

[Uruguayan36]

He is a good player but i did not like the way he played this game, that is all.
He is gonna be good in two years time,imo.
He should be loaned just for one year to get some more experience.

[bas5times]

He is a good player but i did not like the way he played this game, that is all.
He is gonna be good in two years time,imo.
He should be loaned just for one year to get some more experience.

Perhaps something to ask Luistio next time

[soxfan]

The initial demands of Sterling's camp were reportedly not that far short of the salary Reds stalwart Jamie Carragher was earning, and the contract he eventually signed was for the kind of money that even Owen and Gerrard didn't get until their early-mid-twenties. Of course the game has changed and players earn more money than ever, earlier than ever, but even allowing for that, Sterling's contract was excessive. If you give an 18-year-old kid that kind of money, don't be surprised if his form drops off, and if and when that happens, don't be shocked if the fans get on his case. You want to be paid like an experienced pro? Fine, but you'll be judged like one. Harsh, but that's football.

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/liverpool/id/1720/sterling-derailed-by-lofty-expectations?cc=5901

[Hunts Cross]

snip. You want to be paid like an experienced pro? Fine, but you'll be judged like one. Harsh, but that's football.

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/liverpool/id/1720/sterling-derailed-by-lofty-expectations?cc=5901

I found him frustrating against Palace. Loose passes, lots of fouls, including the one they scored from, and not at the level he seemed to be a year ago. If BR wants to go down the wing back route, we need players who can and do. That goes for Enrique too. He doesn't seem to have the urgency he once did. Down the spine of the side, our first choices are really strong. Our first choice wing backs do not cut it.

[Jshooters]

I'd suggest that Glen is our first choice right wing back. You're right about Enrique though...looking forward to seeing more of Sissokho

[new-red]

They are

yea but as wing back if you give the ball away you are almost always out of a good defensive position in which to thwart a counter attack.

I honestly think this weighed on sterling's mind the whole game because he was very deliberate with his passes which meant that he telegraphed a lot of them and they got cut out. I think he was constricted in his passing and movement because of the burden of defensive responsibility that was put on him.

He didn't have a good game at all but i still believe he could do a good job in that role when called upon.

[xerxes]

I'd quite like to see him get some more playing time in a team that like to play in a similar style - a Swansea, or Southampton perhaps

What makes you think he would get into those first teams? Also, they are two clubs that are about our level, why would we strengthen them?

[TheBazz]

As a normal winger he still has to track back a lot to defend under Rodgers' system. It's not like he was playing as GK.

Last time I checked, traditional winger play doesnt involve backtracking. Its pretty much all-atk.. hence why it was so effective for counter attacking

[Yolanderyolando]

Very circular thread this.

Yes he looked tremendous when he stepped into the first team

Now he is looking pretty average.

Yes he is 18 an he can develop and the talent is there but will he tut out to be a top player

For me at the moment I think he has been found out, defenders now just don't give him time to get it out of his feet and run an as a result he loses the ball.

He final ball and shooting is poor ( he shooting very poor I'm my opinion ) but this can be worked on.

If you compare him to people similar to his age, Barkley is miles ahead of him, januzaj looks to have more about him based on the little I've seen. Players like isco were miles ahead if Raheem at the same age.

I think most people think he is going to turn out amazing or pretty average.

Who knows which one but in the last 18 months he hasn't progressed an you could argue he has gone backwards.

[sinnermichael]

Starting for the under 21's.

[Funky_Gibbons]

Very circular thread this.

Yes he looked tremendous when he stepped into the first team

Now he is looking pretty average.

Yes he is 18 an he can develop and the talent is there but will he tut out to be a top player

For me at the moment I think he has been found out, defenders now just don't give him time to get it out of his feet and run an as a result he loses the ball.

He final ball and shooting is poor ( he shooting very poor I'm my opinion ) but this can be worked on.

If you compare him to people similar to his age, Barkley is miles ahead of him, januzaj looks to have more about him based on the little I've seen. Players like isco were miles ahead if Raheem at the same age.

I think most people think he is going to turn out amazing or pretty average.

Who knows which one but in the last 18 months he hasn't progressed an you could argue he has gone backwards.

Barkley is a year older than Sterling but physically he is years ahead. At Sterlings age Barkley was playing for Sheffield Wednesday and people were talking about him being a wasted talent. Severn games into the PL he is already the savior of English football.

Januzaj is being spoken about in the same way as Sterling was this time last season. Both burst onto the scene with match winning performances with Sterling getting called up into the England team.

[ElstonGunn]

Barkley is a year older than Sterling but physically he is years ahead. At Sterlings age Barkley was playing for Sheffield Wednesday and people were talking about him being a wasted talent. Severn games into the PL he is already the savior of English football.

Januzaj is being spoken about in the same way as Sterling was this time last season. Both burst onto the scene with match winning performances with Sterling getting called up into the England team.

This. Let's see how Januzaj does once teams start preparing for him (which is no criticism of Januzaj by the way--think he's going to be a star, just like our Raheem).

Far be it for an 18 year old to have a lengthy a rough patch. Barkley, Wilshere, Ramsey, Sturridge, Walcott, Bale, Oxlade-Chamberlain and all the other top young lads hit the ground running in top-flight football and never slowed down. Oh, wait...

[PhaseOfPlay]

Last time I checked, traditional winger play doesnt involve backtracking. Its pretty much all-atk.. hence why it was so effective for counter attacking

That type of winger hasn't existed since the 60's.

[Yolanderyolando]

I think all the examples you have given are pretty poor there ;

Sturridge was just greedy and was played on the wing.

Ox - didn't know he had a lean patch early on I certainly didn't notice it.

Bale - was potentially good but he was physically weak but had the frame and height to grow into a power house. Look at bale now and when he was 18 he was probably 10 stone at 18 now he is what 13 and looks an athlete.

Ramsey got his leg destroyed and missed about 18 months

Walcott is exactly the same as he was then, kick it run fast and shoot.

[xerxes]

That type of winger hasn't existed since the 60's.

Are you referring to the great Jimmy Carter?

[ElstonGunn]

I think all the examples you have given are pretty poor there ;

Sturridge was just greedy and was played on the wing.

Ox - didn't know he had a lean patch early on I certainly didn't notice it.

Bale - was potentially good but he was physically weak but had the frame and height to grow into a power house. Look at bale now and when he was 18 he was probably 10 stone at 18 now he is what 13 and looks an athlete.

Ramsey got his leg destroyed and missed about 18 months

Walcott is exactly the same as he was then, kick it run fast and shoot.

You can nitpick any individual comparison, but I think you'd struggle to name more than one or two recent youngsters in England who were immediate successes and didn't have a period where they struggled.

And the Walcott one in particular is bs. He may have the same style, but he has tons of end product now.

[PhaseOfPlay]

Are you referring to the great Jimmy Carter?

I don't think Carter even did any FORWARD tracking

[ChaChaMooMoo]

Are you referring to the great Jimmy Carter?

Wow. Should have been hell of a winger running for the United States office AND playing as a winger!

[Bincey]

Just been the victim of one of the most ridiculous bookings i've seen.