Topic: 19-18: now it's your turn.

[Johnny Utah]

Imagine how dark it must have been for the fans in the 1950's when we were a second division side for seven years!
But we were still Liverpool, we still had the passion, still had the Kop. Without that passion would Shankly have ever been drawn to us?
Remember he said he'd felt the passion at Anfield when he was a player, he knew the potential was there just waiting to be unleashed.

We're a special club, and we always will be 

[tommy LFC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7miRCLeFSJo

[Red_Rich]

We are still the most successful club in the country.

to be honest, we're clinging on a bit now.  If they beat Barca at Wembley (God forbid!), they could also rightly claim to be the most successful british club along with us.  19-4-11-4  is more than 18-5-7-7 although we do have 3 UEFA cups aswell.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Good op . Fingher s do your sutff.

We shojdl think of just us. It's alwys tbeem us. Alwauys

You hafe to give credit where it s dfue thojh.

[muyuu]

It beats me how could they do it with their current side and playing the appalling footie they've been playing most of the season, but fair play they managed to regress a bit less than chelsea and a fair bit less than us this year.

[The Bill Hicks Appreciation Society]

Congratulations to Man Utd, it only took them 110 years to overtake us in league titles.

[Istanbul_05times]

sick of them wankers already..............we need to get back winning the lge regularly....& build up another lead on them horrible c*nts

[DougLFC94]

Mark my words, Kenny wont just knock him off his perch.....he'll boot him off it!

[JonnyTwoTimes]

THE ECONOMIST - Manchester v Liverpool : The meaning of number 19



SOURCE : http://econ.st/j7NoDd

"OVER the weekend, Manchester United overtook Liverpool as the most successful club in the history of domestic English football by winning their 19th league title, one more than their Merseyside rivals have clocked up in their august history. On the same day, Manchester City, the richest club in the world since being taken over by Gulf billionaires three years ago, began what is likely to be an epoch of success by winning the FA Cup.

Liverpudlians can still claim to belong to the greatest football city in the country, and perhaps the whole of Europe: Liverpool have won the Champions League, the continent's most glittering bauble, more times than United, and the city's second biggest club, Everton, have a grander history than City. But United's recent dominance, and their symbolic 19th title, hurts the pride of Merseyside, where memories of Liverpool's own pomp in the 1970s and 1980s are growing fainter.

The galling thing for many in Liverpool is the sense that recent football history speaks to a broader divergence of fortunes between the two great cities. Both suffered as a result of the de-industralisation brought about by globalisation. Their populations fell and unemployment rose. But Manchester's reputation began to revive in the 1990s. It has come to be seen as a go-ahead metropolis, with a pro-business city council, gleaming residential and retail developments and a large yuppie population employed in finance, law and professional services. It has more university students per capita than any other European city, and it has produced much of the best British pop music of the past 30 years. The world's first industrial city has become very good at the "soft" stuff: sport, culture, academia, service-sector enterprise. I suspect that most Britons instinctively regard Manchester as the country's second city, despite Birmingham's traditional claim to that status.

Liverpool, meanwhile, is seen to have struggled since the 1980s, when massive unemployment scarred the city and Margaret Thatcher was seen by locals as a kind of foreign overlord. The common perception outside the north-west of England is that Manchester is successful and confident, and that Liverpool is neither.

The reality is more complicated. Manchester has social blights of its own. United fans sing taunting songs about "Liverpool slums", but their own city has similar levels of deprivation. "Gunchester" still suffers from violent crime. And Liverpool has undergone a mini-renaissance of late: it was European Capital of Culture in 2008, and has seen retail centres, conference venues and other major developments go up in the city in recent years. But the external perception of a city being left behind by its nearest rival remains. For a place with such a grand history (home of William Gladstone, the Beatles and colossal merchant wealth during Britain's imperial period), and such a strong sense of identity, it is frustrating. United's 19th is a painful number.

(As an aside, some of us believe that the only cure for the enmity between the two cities is for England's third most successful club, north London's Arsenal, to overtake them both. With 13 league titles, and no imminent prospect of number 14, this is very much a long-term project.)"


 

[AnnieRoad(Un)Faithful]

They were always going to get to 19 before us.

They have had the foundations, money and fortune to do it.