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Predictions: Top 4

Liverpool
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Manchester City
356 (24.3%)
Tottenham Hotspur
169 (11.5%)
Chelsea
127 (8.7%)
Manchester United
150 (10.2%)
Arsenal
257 (17.5%)
Newcastle
83 (5.7%)
Aston Villa
1 (0.1%)
Wolves
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West Ham
0 (0%)
Everton
10 (0.7%)
Crystal Palace
1 (0.1%)
Bournemouth
4 (0.3%)
Nottingham Forest
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Leicester City
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Leeds United
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Fulham
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Brentford
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Brighton
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Southampton
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #400 on: March 11, 2023, 04:12:45 pm »
True but we're already playing catch up, we can't afford to keep slipping up when playing a team literally bottom of the table at the start of the day.

City and Chelsea away next. Chelsea who could be on the back of 3 to 4 straight wins….and would leap frog us if they beat us.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #401 on: March 11, 2023, 09:25:30 pm »
Strangely enough, we seem to play better against the Citys and Chelseas, compared to relegation-threatened teams. I don't think all is lost.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #402 on: March 11, 2023, 10:40:44 pm »
Kane is crucial for Spurs, and he's the reason why they'll get top4. Since Stevie G, we don't have such a big personality and a leader who will push us singlehanded when it's the toughest and when it's most needed, and who is consistent doing that season after season.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #403 on: March 11, 2023, 11:05:07 pm »
Kane is crucial for Spurs, and he's the reason why they'll get top4. Since Stevie G, we don't have such a big personality and a leader who will push us singlehanded when it's the toughest and when it's most needed, and who is consistent doing that season after season.

Did Kane push them to a win at Wolves last week?
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #404 on: March 11, 2023, 11:07:45 pm »
Lol, when has Kane ever dragged them anywhere except maybe from the conference league to Europa league one time?

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #405 on: March 11, 2023, 11:15:19 pm »
From the highs and massive optimism on Sunday night of finishing top 4 to the lows and great pessimism today in missing out on top 4  :butt :-[

Gonna be a huge struggle after today  >:(
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #406 on: March 11, 2023, 11:25:18 pm »
Thing is everyone who is going for top 4 is shit, including us. There will be bad results each week by different teams

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #407 on: March 12, 2023, 12:02:25 am »
Yes….but playing catch-up gives us almost zero margin for error.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #408 on: March 12, 2023, 02:35:14 am »
Lol, when has Kane ever dragged them anywhere except maybe from the conference league to Europa league one time?

He surely helped them to punch above their weight many times. Finishing in the top4 isn't a small achievement for them, and they rarely have missed it. As i said, he's the main reason for that.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #409 on: March 12, 2023, 04:17:29 am »
I mean, he makes them better, obviously, so in that sense you can say he's been the difference between 4th and 5th on occasion. But if you're going to mention him in the same post as Gerrard (and I realise you're not putting him on the same level, but you're talking about a difference maker in that vein) then you should be able to point to some examples of big occasions where he's dragged a seemingly beaten team over the line through sheer brilliance and force of personality. We all know Stevie's qualifications. I don't remember Kane doing anything in Madrid.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #410 on: March 12, 2023, 06:17:45 am »
If only top 4 was a trophy, then Harry Kane wouldve had a great career.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #411 on: March 12, 2023, 06:47:07 am »
Fuck top 4 we are too shit! Whats the point qualifying for CL anyway? So we can get battered by Madrid again?

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #412 on: March 12, 2023, 08:47:17 am »
Fuck top 4 we are too shit! Whats the point qualifying for CL anyway? So we can get battered by Madrid again?

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #413 on: March 12, 2023, 08:58:09 am »
Fuck top 4 we are too shit! Whats the point qualifying for CL anyway? So we can get battered by Madrid again?
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #414 on: March 12, 2023, 09:01:20 am »
Spurs have a game next week and we dont play now until April. They also have two games in that week that we play three so to say its a defining next few games is an understatement.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #415 on: March 12, 2023, 09:14:31 am »
Fuck top 4 we are too shit! Whats the point qualifying for CL anyway? So we can get battered by Madrid again?

Wish this season would end now

The idea of the Europa league is one I’m excited about. There are very few moments that top that Europa league run we had with Klopp in the early days. It does get boring getting knocked out by a Madrid team every season.

From a club perspective though, getting back in the champions league next season is a must. If we do get too 4 and the owners fail to spend big in the summer, I’ll be joining the FSG out campaign no doubt about it

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #416 on: March 12, 2023, 09:17:05 am »
Yes….but playing catch-up gives us almost zero margin for error.
6 behind with game in hand.

We have to play them at Anfield too.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #417 on: March 12, 2023, 09:30:27 am »
We have to play them at Anfield too.

Next few games will be crucial. They play next week against Saints and the week we play City, Arsenal and Chelsea they play Everton away and Brighton at home. I very much doubt we will make points up on them but if this gap is maintained then I reckon we will get top four.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #418 on: March 12, 2023, 10:18:38 am »
We have to play them at Anfield too.
In that case, it's still in our hands (just). If we win our game in hand, beat them and match their other results, that should be enough. At this stage, having a chance on the final day is a decent target but we can only take it game by game.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #419 on: March 12, 2023, 12:54:39 pm »
In that case, it's still in our hands (just). If we win our game in hand, beat them and match their other results, that should be enough. At this stage, having a chance on the final day is a decent target but we can only take it game by game.

The way this season is going we'll probably beat City, Chelsea and Spurs but lose to Villa and Southampton in the last two games.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #420 on: March 12, 2023, 01:39:58 pm »
Kane is crucial for Spurs, and he's the reason why they'll get top4. Since Stevie G, we don't have such a big personality and a leader who will push us singlehanded when it's the toughest and when it's most needed, and who is consistent doing that season after season.

Spurs have 1 leader. We have a team of them.
When Kane is fucked, they are fucked. When one of ours isn't performing, we have others that can cover them and drag them along.
Unfortunately this season all of ours are fucked at the same time.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #421 on: March 12, 2023, 04:13:12 pm »
Spurs have 1 leader. We have a team of them.
When Kane is fucked, they are fucked. When one of ours isn't performing, we have others that can cover them and drag them along.
Unfortunately this season all of ours are fucked at the same time.
Up to this point, not this season.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #422 on: March 12, 2023, 04:15:26 pm »
Needed to win yesterday now need to go to City and/or Chelsea and get a result and beat Arsenal and Spurs at home to keep pace.

Do that and the schedule eases but that will make or break it. Yesterday was pathetic.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #423 on: March 12, 2023, 04:19:00 pm »
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #424 on: March 12, 2023, 04:27:37 pm »
Needed to win yesterday now need to go to City and/or Chelsea and get a result and beat Arsenal and Spurs at home to keep pace.

Do that and the schedule eases but that will make or break it. Yesterday was pathetic.

Other teams can and will drop points. No point trying to predict anything. Have a bit of faith.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #425 on: March 12, 2023, 04:52:09 pm »
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #426 on: March 12, 2023, 07:10:27 pm »
We have to play them at Anfield too.

Issue is we have City and Chelsea away next.
Chelsea have won 3 on the bounce and if we don’t beat City, Chelsea can leapfrog us with a win….so they are suddenly in the the top 4 equation.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #427 on: March 12, 2023, 07:24:50 pm »

Chelsea have won 3 on the bounce and if we don’t beat City, Chelsea can leapfrog us with a win….so they are suddenly in the the top 4 equation.

Nah, would just mean we are both out of it. They are shit and have loads of tough ones left.

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #428 on: March 12, 2023, 07:29:54 pm »
Issue is we have City and Chelsea away next.
Chelsea have won 3 on the bounce and if we don’t beat City, Chelsea can leapfrog us with a win….so they are suddenly in the the top 4 equation.
Chelsea are really far away. Would be a miracle if they made it

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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #429 on: March 12, 2023, 07:55:39 pm »
Spurs have 1 leader. We have a team of them.
When Kane is fucked, they are fucked. When one of ours isn't performing, we have others that can cover them and drag them along.
Unfortunately this season all of ours are fucked at the same time.

We don't really have a team of leaders. When it's the toughest, tell me which player will take the game by the scruff of the neck a la Steven Gerrard? We needed desperately three points against Bournemouth, and absolutely nobody stepped up.

We can lie ourselves as much as we want, but the likes of Origi was winning us games in previous seasons when was the toughest and where there was no hope on the horizon.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #430 on: March 12, 2023, 08:20:04 pm »
I hope Newcastle don’t worm their way into the top 4. Be horrible to see them in it and not us.

Be quite embarrassing too because their team is completely average.

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« Reply #431 on: March 12, 2023, 08:30:23 pm »
I hope Newcastle don’t worm their way into the top 4. Be horrible to see them in it and not us.

Be quite embarrassing too because their team is completely average.
I had a lot a look at the table for the first time in a while and I was surprised by Brighton's position. I thunk they have more than Newcastle.

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« Reply #432 on: March 12, 2023, 08:31:58 pm »
I had a lot a look at the table for the first time in a while and I was surprised by Brighton's position. I thunk they have more than Newcastle.

Brighton have more quality than Newcastle definitely, play the better football.

Brilliantly ran club too. Just don’t like the Saudicastle tbf.

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« Reply #433 on: March 12, 2023, 09:38:27 pm »
We don't really have a team of leaders. When it's the toughest, tell me which player will take the game by the scruff of the neck a la Steven Gerrard? We needed desperately three points against Bournemouth, and absolutely nobody stepped up.

We can lie ourselves as much as we want, but the likes of Origi was winning us games in previous seasons when was the toughest and where there was no hope on the horizon.

So a team that has won the lot over the last few years, having to put up ridiculous points total and go deep in 4 competitions etc. has no leaders, but Harry Kane who has never won so much as a raffle is a great leader that can drag his team to...?
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« Reply #434 on: March 12, 2023, 10:36:49 pm »
So a team that has won the lot over the last few years, having to put up ridiculous points total and go deep in 4 competitions etc. has no leaders, but Harry Kane who has never won so much as a raffle is a great leader that can drag his team to...?

Maybe you can answer this, when it's the toughest, tell me which player will take the game by the scruff of the neck?
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« Reply #435 on: March 12, 2023, 10:52:57 pm »
Maybe you can answer this, when it's the toughest, tell me which player will take the game by the scruff of the neck?

Let me just check my notes from the past 7 years. Lots of them.
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« Reply #436 on: March 12, 2023, 11:52:24 pm »
Let me just check my notes from the past 7 years. Lots of them.

You can check your notes but i doubt you can find any.

I have no problem with this team the way it is, without a big leader like Gerrard. It works perfectly when everyone is on the same page, and most of the time they are thanks to Klopp, and that brings you success and trophies, but sometimes as a fan, it's frustrated because you want that big personality in your team to turn things around when things aren't going well.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #437 on: March 13, 2023, 05:40:54 am »
Everyone of those away games are fraught with danger.

I could have told you that without looking at the teams involved! All that matters is the number of H and A in the schedule because we're great at the former and woeful at the latter.

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« Reply #438 on: March 13, 2023, 09:14:14 am »
You can check your notes but i doubt you can find any.

I have no problem with this team the way it is, without a big leader like Gerrard. It works perfectly when everyone is on the same page, and most of the time they are thanks to Klopp, and that brings you success and trophies, but sometimes as a fan, it's frustrated because you want that big personality in your team to turn things around when things aren't going well.

You're nearly there. We don't have any standout leader, because the majority of them are leaders. If one leader is having an off day then someone else steps up. That's how you win league titles and reach 3 European Cup finals in 5 years. Not to mention winning every other competition as well.
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Re: Predictions: Top 4
« Reply #439 on: March 13, 2023, 10:57:11 am »
5 points dropped to Palace and Bournemouth have hurt us...but you could argue that beating United somewhat makes up for one of those games.

I know spurs' schedule is easier (as i have looked and not at others!) but i dont think the next 3 for us make or break our top 4 "challenge". Spurs have an ending to April which is quite shit too for them whereas ours isn't...not as bad as our 3 but still you can see them dropping points...

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taking those group of 3 games out of it for us and them its who can get more points - and now we must beat them at Anfield too - I fear the away matches, especially west ham, but hopefully we step up a little by then in terms of consistency and Diaz
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