Topic: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD

[elsewhere]

when are we announcing Barella?

[PeterTheRed ...]

when are we announcing Barella?

After the World Cup ...

[Ghost Town]

when are we announcing Barella?

I'd prefer Barberella

[Sangria]

I'd prefer Barberella

Which one are you fonda of?

[Sangria]

Yea Elliott Skill is a much more of creative winger/10 type(he Never played as controller 8 for Klopp, always in the Advanced creative one). Jones has been molder much more into a controller type 8 with his ability play under pressure, dribbling, passing, etc. Gundogan used be a wide player when he Younger and even at Dortmund he became the 8 for them. Jones likely Profiles in that mold much more considering he lead the MF in pass competition last season, carrying, passing. Yes he can play more forward but he more Thiago role then the other role.
I dont think Jude profiles that 8 for Klopp at the start, that not a player you want to be behind the ball protecting the counter, Jones does that well.

We need to sign him. Is he a friend of Max Power?

[royhendo]

Usual stuff going on, I see. Capon’s binned it off so there’s nobody to call for review if people get posts deleted and/or warnings. So, you know, Peter - ask yourself if you need to be antagonising people, and everyone else, ask yourself if you could use the ignore button.

[Drinks Sangria]

Fabio Vieira reminds me of a poor man’s Ozil. He looks like a player who could be a brilliant impact sub but won’t be able to affect games regularly across 90 minute contests.

Oddly he may have suited someone like City better to come on and assist with unlocking stubborn low blocks in 30-minute cameos. He only played 1300 minutes in the league last season, where Porto didn’t seem to feel he could fit into their preferred style particularly well (a 4-4-2 mostly). The fact he got 11 assists in so few minutes reflects perhaps Arsenal’s intent - a player who can come off the bench and already have sussed another side out and able to create chances and goals off the back of that.

He’s a 10 though and Arsenal have Smith-Rowe and Odegaard so I’m just a touch unsure what the idea is with him. £34.5m is a lot for someone I’m speculating they’ve signed as a modular addition, a super sub effectively. Whereas we might’ve employed him as a 10, or even a false nine (which I doubt he could’ve down effectively) he seems a classic Arsenal signing in adding strength to an already strong area and neglecting actual needs.

[Bangin Them In]

Maguire went for £80m. English tax.

That’s quite a high bail payment

[amir87]

Usual stuff going on, I see. Capon’s binned it off so there’s nobody to call for review if people get posts deleted and/or warnings. So, you know, Peter - ask yourself if you need to be antagonising people, and everyone else, ask yourself if you could use the ignore button.

Capon's left?!

I was only just coming to terms with Mane leaving ffs!

[J-Mc-]

Well, the report you've read is not true ...

I’ll believe that over you thanks.

[J-Mc-]

Does this makes sense to you?

Also the Mirror ...
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-arsenal-fabio-vieira-transfer-272

Someone has just miss-read an article. Nothing important ...

Get off your high horse, no wonder people slag you off all the time, you come across as a right pretentious prick at times.

The article I read clearly stated that we had a deal agreed.

‘Fabio Vieira - Liverpool have passed up the opportunity to sign Porto's Fabio Vieira having previously reached an agreement over the midfielder, with Arsenal set to sign the Portuguese player (Daily Mirror, June 17).’

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12599319/liverpool-transfer-news-and-rumours-summer-transfer-window-2022

[Ghost Town]

Get off your high horse, no wonder people slag you off all the time, you come across as a right pretentious prick at times.

The article I read clearly stated that we had a deal agreed.

‘Fabio Vieira - Liverpool have passed up the opportunity to sign Porto's Fabio Vieira having previously reached an agreement over the midfielder, with Arsenal set to sign the Portuguese player (Daily Mirror, June 17).’

https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11095/12599319/liverpool-transfer-news-and-rumours-summer-transfer-window-2022

You said:

The mirror (i know, I know,) saying that we had a deal in place with Viera but pulled out once Arsenal enquired.

which at best was a bad choice of words, as it implies that we held up our hands and backed out once we realised we had no chance now that the mighty Arsenal had got involved.

Which unless you have another trustworthy source which does allege that interpretation, means your post was factually incorrect.

In reality what most likely happened is that we had first dibs on the player as far as his club were concerned (but no suggestion of any agreement with the player) and we decided not to pursue that option, for whatever reason of our own.

[J-Mc-]

Having previously reached an agreement implies that we had an agreement and have pulled out for whatever reason. You can google it yourself, there’s enough out there that suggests we pulled out once Arsenal went in for him.

[Samie]

None of the top tier journos reported we agreed a deal for Vieira.  A Portuguese outlet reported a while ago we had agreed a first option deal on him. 

[JasonF]

Having previously reached an agreement implies that we had an agreement and have pulled out for whatever reason. You can google it yourself, there’s enough out there that suggests we pulled out once Arsenal went in for him.

In this case, the previous agreement likely refers to our first option, which we decided not to make use of. I don't think that's the same as backing out of a deal because of Arsenal. We likely wanted to monitor him for a while longer and unlike Spurs forcing our hand with Díaz, we hadn't seen enough in Vieira to warrant bringing him in right now, so we passed up on it.

[Red Cactii]

The fish are hungry today!

“Give a man a fish, and he will be fed for a meal. Give a man a typo in a transfer fee on RAWK, and he will be fed for eternity.”

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Nope, I have just pointed out to the correct source. There is no need to start a ridiculous discussion about Arsenal beating us to a signing. We have enough moaning in this thread ...

I haven't noticed much moaning in this thread to be honest.

[Ghost Town]

Lol

[So… Howard Philips]

“Give a man a fish, and he will be fed for a meal. Give a man a typo in a transfer fee on RAWK, and he will be fed for eternity.”

Matthew, Mark, Luke or John?

[BarryCrocker]

Matthew, Mark, Luke or John?

Peter was the fisher of men.

[Drinks Sangria]

If we really wanted Vieira, there’s no way we wouldn’t have competed with Arsenal for him. We were happy to challenge Spurs on Diaz and Utd on Núñez. Arsenal are not bigger than those sides.

If there’s any truth in it I would sway towards ‘we chose to relinquish our first option.’ Which would be the right call. He’s a bit of a curate’s egg, massively effective in short spells but never been trusted as a starter and barely more than 50 senior apps to his name at 22.

Vitinha looks more of a prospect to me, at the same age. Didn’t think much to him based on his loan at Wolves but he’s flourished since.

[JRed]

After the World Cup ...

2026?

[CraigDS]

“Give a man a fish, and he will be fed for a meal. Give a man a typo in a transfer fee on RAWK, and he will be fed for eternity.”

 

[El Lobo]

Having previously reached an agreement implies that we had an agreement and have pulled out for whatever reason. You can google it yourself, there’s enough out there that suggests we pulled out once Arsenal went in for him.

I think what they probably mean is that we had this first refusal 'agreement' with Porto (which we agreed when we signed Luis) and thus passed up the opportunity to sign him, and 'let' him go to Arsenal.

Piss taking aside, there's no reason we'd actually back out of signing a player we wanted to sign because Arsenal got involved. That'd be like Mike Tyson backing out of a fight because Alan Titchmarsh got involved.

[royhendo]

Capon's left?!

I was only just coming to terms with Mane leaving ffs!

He's off to that twitter I think mate... at least for a bit. The bickering did his head in. And that's just Mane.

[baffled]

Maguire went for £80m. English tax.

The point of the Olise story is that he'll have a higher buy-out fee than the initial one, which seems to undervalue him. If Palace set it too high, they'll have another Zaha situation (good but no one will spend the money required to sign him), or he won't sign the deal because he'll see no way out of Palace, and will stick on the lower wages for the time being knowing another good season gets him a bumper deal.

[Schmidt]

He's off to that twitter I think mate... at least for a bit. The bickering did his head in. And that's just Mane.

Twitter of course being famously known as a place where everyone gets along.

[No666]

He's off to that twitter I think mate... at least for a bit. The bickering did his head in. And that's just Mane.

That's a shame. Good bloke. Hope he returns smartish.

[BarryCrocker]

Twitter of course being famously known as a place where everyone gets along.

Twitter. That place between your twat and your shitter.

[rob1966]

He's off to that twitter I think mate... at least for a bit. The bickering did his head in. And that's just Mane.

Fucking hell, it must have got bad if he prefers twatter    He'll be back once the loons on there wreck his head.

We need him back for his #sausages stuff, I miss the lunacy and the belly busting laughs

[spider-neil]

With there seemingly no more incomings roll on pre-season. Outs is never as interesting as players coming in.

[newterp]

Fucking hell, it must have got bad if he prefers twatter    He'll be back once the loons on there wreck his head.

We need him back for his #sausages stuff, I miss the lunacy and the belly busting laughs

He'll never be happier in his life than he will be on twitter. It will be the best day(s) of his life.

[Son of Spion]

Usual stuff going on, I see. Capon’s binned it off so there’s nobody to call for review if people get posts deleted and/or warnings. So, you know, Peter - ask yourself if you need to be antagonising people, and everyone else, ask yourself if you could use the ignore button.

Really? 

That's a shame. He's a great laugh and good to have around. Hopefully he comes back once the football starts up again.

[disgraced cake]

Where's the Awoniyi money, John?

[Tobelius]

He'll never be happier in his life than he will be on twitter. It will be the best day(s) of his life.

 

[Drinks Sangria]

Where's the Awoniyi money, John?

Good move for Forest. You'd think he'd do decent there and it addresses a clear need in their squad.

A few more million in the pot for us too.

[afc tukrish]

Fucking hell, it must have got bad if he prefers twatter    He'll be back once the loons on there wreck his head.

We need him back for his #sausages stuff, I miss the lunacy and the belly busting laughs

Never mind all the funky music of which I've never heard...

[dutchkop]

some real challenges for Ward, KLopp, FSG & co this summer
Mane gone - with half decent money for someone with a year left
a few more with a year left
Salah, Ox, Keita and Bobby Firmino

stick or twist?

[Drinks Sangria]

Keita will likely get a new deal, the others will probably be allowed to leave.

We clearly won't be offering Ox a new deal, Bobby is a maybe and Mo has his offer and it seems won't be taking it, at this stage.

I think we'll be sticking for now, but would personally prefer to bring in one more midfielder so as to allow for less churn next summer.

[Chris~]

some real challenges for Ward, KLopp, FSG & co this summer
Mane gone - with half decent money for someone with a year left
a few more with a year left
Salah, Ox, Keita and Bobby Firmino

stick or twist?

Other than Salah, who is probably the least likely to sign at this point, I wouldn't be offering anything more than their current pay to any of them. Think at the point they're all more likely to try and get better deals elsewhere whilst we continue a bit of a rebuild. I'm not sure anyone is going to make an offer for the latter 3 either where we'd be tempted to sell