Topic: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *

[rob1966]

If he moved to City he'd destroy his LFC legacy in one fell swoop...

Same as going to the Saudis

[disgraced cake]

There's not a singular chance he goes to Newcastle. The idea of it is just laughable. There's no guarantee they even finish in the top 10 this year. City I could see but even that's unlikely IMO.

A lot of it depends on next season though. If he has a proper dip it probably means a couple interested might look elsewhere. There's PSG, Juve and the Spanish clubs who I'd say all stand a chance. Even Chelsea might.

[lgvkarlos]

If you are working outside your home country. Spain for example and you get an offer to do the same job at Paris for much more money you won't accept it ? especially since you only got 4 or 5 years before retiring? maybe you won't but most people will. You are not going to hell you are going to a similar working environment and even if it didn't work out you will get your money.

Also if its PSG who are after him it's not about salary alone. They will offer him a contract at Bein , his family members will get job contracts, shares at companies , properties and all sort of things you can't imagine. That's how countries funded clubs work.


Anyhow we don't even know what his demands are. Let's wait and see what happens.

If we're going to use the real world on wages and jobs, in what world does an employee say their leaving if they dont get a payrise (twice anybodys at the company) and then stay for another year.
The minute a company and other employees knew you were going, the whole dynamic would change.
I fully expect the dynamic to change for Salah (If his average performances continue)
Will the fans be as patient, we have the best fans in the world but will they have the same loyalty as before.

People saying he could earn more money elsewhere, it's not apples for apples. You may do a job in your local village next to family and friends and your offered double the money to move thousands of miles away.
You would have to way up the value of  the other things, you wouldt demand you village employer meet the wages (knowing they won't pay)
You can keep saying it's just business, but not for me it isn't.

There's no financial reward for us it's all emotional, bollocks to all the "it's a contract crap" (I'm pissed)

 

[sminp]

For our and his sake I hope he does not have a serious dip in form next year. In a way we are partly covered for that now (unlike a couple of years ago) but he isn't. That's the risk he takes, that no-one wants him that badly and he ends up taking a wage cut and joining Fiorentina or someone like that.


Owen ran his contract down and lost his pace around the same time, he never regained his status really.

Even if Salah had a season in which he only scored like 5 goals there would still be plenty of big clubs out there willing to take him on a free and pay him a fortune thinking it was just a one off bad season. He’d have to be poor for 2 or 3 seasons before his options became limited I think.

[jillcwhomever]

There's not a singular chance he goes to Newcastle. The idea of it is just laughable. There's no guarantee they even finish in the top 10 this year. City I could see but even that's unlikely IMO.

A lot of it depends on next season though. If he has a proper dip it probably means a couple interested might look elsewhere. There's PSG, Juve and the Spanish clubs who I'd say all stand a chance. Even Chelsea might.

I did wonder about Chelsea, returning to the club that originally rejected him. Whether they can afford him now is a different matter the old guard are being cleared out of the club now.

[Bend It Like Aurelio]

There's not a singular chance he goes to Newcastle. The idea of it is just laughable. There's no guarantee they even finish in the top 10 this year. City I could see but even that's unlikely IMO.

A lot of it depends on next season though. If he has a proper dip it probably means a couple interested might look elsewhere. There's PSG, Juve and the Spanish clubs who I'd say all stand a chance. Even Chelsea might.

I think it's clear that clubs interested in sportswashing will pay him massive amounts of money. I'm not sure why Newcastle will have no chance, they're liable to put up massive amounts of money if they don't manage to sign any big stars this summer. I am willing to wager too that his agent has probably already made contact with them, or the likes of PSG / City.

Again, I think the theatrics indicates to me that he really does want to stay, but we are probably not budging from the wage structure. I think his contract talks will come down to the wire.

[Barneylfc∗]

There's not a singular chance he goes to Newcastle. The idea of it is just laughable. There's no guarantee they even finish in the top 10 this year. City I could see but even that's unlikely IMO.

A lot of it depends on next season though. If he has a proper dip it probably means a couple interested might look elsewhere. There's PSG, Juve and the Spanish clubs who I'd say all stand a chance. Even Chelsea might.

I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi challenged for the top 4 spots to be honest. Chelsea are no guarantees for it. Arsenal, Spurs and United aren't either.

Only Liverpool and City got more points than them in the second half of the season. They had 2 more than Spurs, 4 more than Arsenal, 5 more than Chelsea and 14 more than United.

If they did get top 4 next season, there's no reason whatsoever Salah wouldn't join them. 

[Dim Glas]

There's not a singular chance he goes to Newcastle. The idea of it is just laughable. There's no guarantee they even finish in the top 10 this year. City I could see but even that's unlikely IMO.

A lot of it depends on next season though. If he has a proper dip it probably means a couple interested might look elsewhere. There's PSG, Juve and the Spanish clubs who I'd say all stand a chance. Even Chelsea might.

not really that laughable.

A lot can happen in a year, and 3 more windows. Newcastle got their shit together 2nd half of last season. We know they can spend what they want, and if they sign well, then they absolutely can and should be pushing for Europe this season.  I would think there more chance of that as them fininshing out of the top 10.

Would Salah go there though, not sure, But it’s not a decision that needs making now, but never discount it IF money is his major motivation, and if are in Europe, and will obviously continue to strengthen, then why not.

[Snusmumriken]

The main risk for him with no contract signed is obviously a big injury.

[farawayred]

not really that laughable.

A lot can happen in a year, and 3 more windows. Newcastle got their shit together 2nd half of last season. We know they can spend what they want, and if they sign well, then they absolutely can and should be pushing for Europe this season.  I would think there more chance of that as them fininshing out of the top 10.

Would Salah go there though, not sure, But it’s not a decision that needs making now, but never discount it IF money is his major motivation, and if are in Europe, and will obviously continue to strengthen, then why not.

Salah wants the Ballon D'Or. Do you seriously think that he will win it at Newcastle?

[dutchkop]

so  Salah is going to wait out and play to end of his contract (which is his right)


what happens if someone comes in for him and offers LFC a decent fee for Salah - and what would a decent fee look like?>



Are there any theories on how far apart we were when contract negotiations broke down ?

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

I wouldn't be surprised if Saudi challenged for the top 4 spots to be honest. Chelsea are no guarantees for it. Arsenal, Spurs and United aren't either.

Only Liverpool and City got more points than them in the second half of the season. They had 2 more than Spurs, 4 more than Arsenal, 5 more than Chelsea and 14 more than United.

If they did get top 4 next season, there's no reason whatsoever Salah wouldn't join them.

Once they'd picked up a couple of wins and were safe from relegation, they were playing without fear but were still hugely motivated due to the takeover and new manager. It will feel a lot different for them come the start of the season when the pressure is ramped up and they're coming up against teams that want to win just as much. I think they'll finish top 10 but nowhere close to the top 4 or even 6.

[CraigDS]

Salah to Newcastle, hahaha some of you lot 

[Oldmanmick]

Once they'd picked up a couple of wins and were safe from relegation, they were playing without fear but were still hugely motivated due to the takeover and new manager. It will feel a lot different for them come the start of the season when the pressure is ramped up and they're coming up against teams that want to win just as much. I think they'll finish top 10 but nowhere close to the top 4 or even 6.

Pretty much agree with that. Eddie Howe is a decent manager but you need more than 'decent' to get yourself in with the big boys. They're still a few years, & a few managers, away from competing for the top 4.

[CraigDS]

Pretty much agree with that. Eddie Howe is a decent manager but you need more than 'decent' to get yourself in with the big boys. They're still a few years, & a few managers, away from competing for the top 4.

And about £400m in spending, probably.

[The G in Gerrard]

Are there any theories on how far apart we were when contract negotiations broke down ?

Aren't negotiations on going still?

[newterp]

Aren't negotiations on going still?

no mo negotiations

[SuperStevieNicol]

True.

If I were manager (And thankfully I'm not ) then as soon as ANY player said they are off or considering it then they would never play again.

If a player doesn't commit and doesn't want to stay then they should be history

I'd let a player go on a free rather than have them sitting there fucking us over

So you wouldn't play Salah at all next season? Madness. Not sure anybody benefits from that.

[proudred]

How many goals has Salah scored in the last 10 games?

[Mister Flip Flop]

Salah wants the Ballon D'Or. Do you seriously think that he will win it at Newcastle?

Salah wants huge money (if like he's not getting it already). If Newcastle offer that he'll be gone. You ask any footballer if they want the Ballon D'Or and 350k a week or no Ballon and 1 million a week and we all know the answer. Hey maybe Mo will surprise us and sign for whatever we are offering but let's be realistic, he's no different than the rest and will more than likely go with the money.

[Dim Glas]

Salah wants the Ballon D'Or. Do you seriously think that he will win it at Newcastle?

Club wise I would think one of the best places to be with a chance of winning it is staying at Liverpool, but it doesn’t look like that is happening, we can speculate as to why that is.

A year down the line, we’ll see what the motivation is. Maybe playing for Real Madrid may help him win the Ballon D’or, but if they don’t want him the choices are limited.

I would say it’s about compromise. If you want to be up there with the very best paid players, then you have a choice of maybe 3 clubs you can go to. If you want to have the chance of winning the biggest individual prizes, then there’s likely 5 or 6 big clubs you can go to (Liverpool being one), but you may not get paid as much than at Abu Dhabi, Man Utd or Newcastle. Again, we will see what the motivating factor is in the end.

[William Regal]

My God, imagine the reception he'd get if he ran his contract down and went to man city

[BER]

What's all this about contract talks? That's all done with, we've already offered him our limit and he's rejected it.

[Black Bull Nova]

Just as the outcome of this years PL and CL impacted on his thinking, so will 22/23, how he plays, whether he's injured and whether he is seen a first choice for every game and never subbed off. A year is a long time in football and how desperate other clubs are to placate their fans.


Remember when Eden Hazard was seen as one of the best players in the world and he thought it was better to leave Chelsea? Players think the grass is greener, sometimes it is not.


Shevchenko
Sanchez
Torres
Owen
Lukaku
Quaresma
Veron
Falcao
Higuain
Robinho
Morata
Morientes

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

You ask any footballer if they want the Ballon D'Or and 350k a week or no Ballon and 1 million a week and we all know the answer.

Sorry but this is bullshit. Yes there are a lot of players that move simply for the money, but it's absolutely not all of them - not even close. It's just because those that do make the headlines. Most players become footballers primarily because they love the sport and if you offered them all the success in the world they would not trade that in to have £1 billion in the bank instead of £500 million.

Think of all the players who would have turned down a move to China a while back, or be turning down Newcastle now. Players will be turning down moves that would bag them more money every day, even if it's just through their agents, but we just never hear about it. Even if you think of our current squad, the likes of Alisson, Trent, Van Dijk, Robertson, Fabinho, Thiago and Diaz could all get paid more for playing elsewhere and will be getting sounded out constantly, but absolutely none of them are angling for a move.

Like with the Saudi golf thing.. The 48 players who have signed up have made the headlines, but think of all the players that must have turned them down for them to even get to those 48 (although some will likely change their mind). It's just not news though.

[Yorkykopite]

You ask any footballer if they want the Ballon D'Or and 350k a week or no Ballon and 1 million a week and we all know the answer.

I just asked my pal's two sons who've just signed their first professional contracts (at different clubs). They both gave different answers.

[idontknow]

I just asked my pal's two sons who've just signed their first professional contracts (at different clubs). They both gave different answers.

Best of luck to the pair of them. 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

The state of this thread.

[CraigDS]

The state of this thread.

Just wait until he signs for Newcastle in August, place will go mental.

[BigRedFeetBed]

Ultimately, I want him to stay beyond the next season and become a bona fide club legend..to be honest he is pretty much there already but I do wonder where he would go if he did leave and it wasn't about the money (Newcastle as an example)

The reason I say this is because if he is leaving one of the biggest clubs in the world already, he will want to join a big club.  There's no way he will want to go backwards, and if the Ballon D'or is that important to him, he will need to be playing week in week out I would assume, and if he goes to another big club, he will need to be taking another big players spot right? He is also 30.

Don't get me wrong, he is a great player and will be for a few years yet, but as a 30 year old, who's place will he be taking in a club that would already be as established as one of the perceived big clubs?..Messi, Benzema? I am sure there are loads of players at top top clubs who are in the twilight of their careers that he could replace but Im not so sure he will become the lynchpin of Real who already have Vinicious or PSG who have Neymar and Mbappe.

He could stay and still be the big un' at Liverpool...I cant see him getting the Ballon D'or anywhere else because of the competition he would have within whatever club he chose, with the addition of not always being a guaranteed starter, certainly at places like Real, PSG and even City unless he went to a club where he would be their biggest ever marquee signing.

We are certainly getting the best out of him because of the position he plays within our team..I just don't know if he gets afforded the same benefits of being in a team like this if he goes anywhere else and it takes longer for him to bed in.

[lionel_messias]

I would like Salah to win the Premier League next season, and the Golden Boot by some distance.

While we're at it, a match winning CL final performance in Istanbul June 2023 would be just fine as well.

Anything else is history and will emerge as it needs to.

[slaphead]

My God, imagine the reception he'd get if he ran his contract down and went to man city

He wouldn't get much of a reception at City anyway, they only have about 6 fans, and 2 of them are the Gallaghers

[SpionBob]

Whatever happened to that Coutinho guy?

[Ocean Red]

I think most of us are sick of the contract saga now. More likely then not Salah will leave on a free next summer. Unless he drops his wage demands. We have made some good signings this summer but still this is getting overshadowed, distracted by Salah, unless things change, all the talk next season will be about his bloody contract. Journos, pundits, klopp keep being asked about it in press conferences.

[newterp]

I'm still on pins and needles in anticipation of learning what it is all about, since it's not about the money.

Also am interested in finding out the fans that know this information already.

[Nobby Reserve]

I know this is stating the obvious, but what makes it more difficult for us is that, were he to leave on a free, his new club would feel justified in paying him a huge signing fee (say £50m) as they save having to pay a transfer fee.

Over a 4 year contract, that's £250k/week before you even get to the wages.

This is why I hate Bosmans.

(nearly missed auto-correct changing 'Bosmans' to 'Bosnians', which would have made the post pretty random)

[Nobby Reserve]

In fact - and I'm sure I must be having a mental block here - have we signed anyone, during Klopp's tenure, on a Bosman free?

[RayPhilAlan]

In fact - and I'm sure I must be having a mental block here - have we signed anyone, during Klopp's tenure, on a Bosman free?

Matip

[WhereAngelsPlay]

I know this is stating the obvious, but what makes it more difficult for us is that, were he to leave on a free, his new club would feel justified in paying him a huge signing fee (say £50m) as they save having to pay a transfer fee.

Over a 4 year contract, that's £250k/week before you even get to the wages.

This is why I hate Bosmans.

(nearly missed auto-correct changing 'Bosmans' to 'Bosnians', which would have made the post pretty random)

I think a signing on bonus close to equal what they can get elsewhere is going to become standard practice.

[afc tukrish]

I'm still on pins and needles in anticipation of learning what it is all about, since it's not about the money.

Also am interested in finding out the fans that know this information already.

60-70% of the Algerians are telling us things...