Topic: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *

[jepovic]

Can we really use if buts and maybes as a metric to decide an award though?

We would be talking him up for it but that stuff never happened, we DIDN'T win the trophy which is what makes all the difference.

Benzema has had the most outstanding year out of the candidates for the award which is exactly why he will win it.

The named players have been brilliant but no ones year is in the same category as Benzemas. I cant fucking stand madrid but credit where it's due. De Bruyne for example, very good season but didn't do it all season for one, didn't win anything other than the title that realistically all things considered they should be winning every year anyway when you look at what they spend.

Give any of our players Benzemas season, numbers AND a league and Champions League double and you would be saying they've been robbed if they dont get it and no one else came close. There's been some very good seasons for players across europe but Benzemas has been the very top.

Salah and Mane have both been class but I dont think we can really argue about them not winning it or claim they should have won it

I think the argument is more that Benzema would have won it even if they had lost the final or the semi, unless we or City would have won CL and PL.  Messi won it last year for no reason at all, despite Lewandowski crushing all records. The bar for winning is so much lower for Real and Barca players

[Victor]

All drives the question why have an award for an individual when it's based on how the team he plays for  performs ?  Team's win trophies  some players carry a team that's struggling

[classycarra]

All drives the question why have an award for an individual when it's based on how the team he plays for  performs ?  Team's win trophies  some players carry a team that's struggling

Indeed. That's why I think Salah is a bit daft for putting so much stock in it. It's his call, nothing to do with LFC really, so he's welcome to - just think he'd come off better rising above it and at least pretending it's not a huge deal for him.

[rob1966]

Very well could be that we were only going to renew 1 of mane or salah - and now that Sadio has made it known that he wants out - we can make the effort for Mo?


My hope anyway.

If Maddocks is right and Sadio wanted £400k a week wages (and Bayern have offered £360k plus bonuses) then there is no way we were paying 2 players £1million a week between them. I still don't think we will budge on the offer, we're not paying anyone £400k a week plus bonuses.

[Dim Glas]

Indeed. That's why I think Salah is a bit daft for putting so much stock in it. It's his call, nothing to do with LFC really, so he's welcome to - just think he'd come off better rising above it and at least pretending it's not a huge deal for him.

It’s a striker thing, no knock on Mo, but they generally seem to be utterly focused on personal awards to an extent that’s likely hard for us fans to understand, being as it’s the team that matters! Lewandowski is another who isn’t shy about going public about such things.

[Morgana]

It’s a striker thing, no knock on Mo, but they generally seem to be utterly focused on personal awards to an extent that’s likely hard for us fans to understand, being as it’s the team that matters! Lewandowski is another who isn’t shy about going public about such things.

Don’t think I ever heard Lewandowski talk about it this much and with this kind of entitlement. After they cancelled the award the season he more than earned, and with Bayern winning the CL recently too, it was mostly the fans who talked about the unfairness of it.  Mo last year was snarky in an interview about not finishing higher in the votes when we won nothing and only qualified for the CL thanks to our Goalie ffs. If you’re not odds on to win the thing why bother even care which loser’s spot (2nd, 5th, etc.) you get? It’s pointless, as is speculating about his chances at the end of a season where there’s already a clear winner? Seems to care about the wrong things, sadly. Someone needs to tell him to calm down with the “personal ambitions” talk in interviews and on social media.  Makes him look like The Ego.

[Kalito]

Don’t think I ever heard Lewandowski talk about it this much and with this kind of entitlement. After they cancelled the award the season he more than earned, and with Bayern winning the CL recently too, it was mostly the fans who talked about the unfairness of it.  Mo last year was snarky in an interview about not finishing higher in the votes when we won nothing and only qualified for the CL thanks to our Goalie ffs. If you’re not odds on to win the thing why bother even care which loser’s spot (2nd, 5th, etc.) you get? It’s pointless, as is speculating about his chances at the end of a season where there’s already a clear winner? Seems to care about the wrong things, sadly. Someone needs to tell him to calm down with the “personal ambitions” talk in interviews and on social media.  Makes him look like The Ego.

Surprise, surprise. Look who it is. 

Pathetic some of the posts in here.

[El Lobo]

Surprise, surprise. Look who it is. 

Pathetic some of the posts in here.

Do you not understand Kalito? He's being trolled. Not just trolled...but trolled on the ESPN FC twitter page 

[Morgana]

Surprise, surprise. Look who it is. 

Pathetic some of the posts in here.

Do you not understand Kalito? He's being trolled. Not just trolled...but trolled on the ESPN FC twitter page 

It's okay to disagree with me; I don't care. Every time you say anything about a player these days that's not wholly laudatory you get accused of "hating" them, because this type of over-simplification of the world has become normalised by the media and society in general. You can see someone's flaws and still love them. Salah's ego can be both blessing and curse. We love that he is so competitive; we love that he scores a bag of goals each season, and being uber-competitive feeds that. Here the Ego is a blessing. It becomes a curse when individual needs/objectives compromise team focus. Salah's ego first became an issue when he got mad about the armband going to Trent instead of him. At his age and with being around people like Henderson for so long, he should have learned by now that you don't have to say everything you think and feel, as it's not always in the best interest of the team. All that talk about "revenge" against Madrid was ill-advised; there was no need for it. It's all ego, and yeah, being "trolled on Twitter" is a big deal to certain people. Why invite the drama into your life when you can just stay quiet and have a peaceful life?

[Kalito]

I highly doubt that Salah gives a flying fuck about what you, trolls on twitter or internet say or think about him 

Some people have a reet bee in their bonnet about what he responds to when asked. Salah is the biggest star in the team. Media (sports and non-sports) love to talk to him and ask questions. Sometimes Salah says it how it is and gives an honest response to questions. What's up with that?

All the biggest sports stars in the world have egos. Who gives a flying fuck.

Your man Sadio Mane (who i absolutely love and adore, btw) has a big ego as well. "That's a fact.".

There are big egos in people from all walks of life.

Big fucking deal.

[Walshy nMe®]

Bad day Kalito?

[El Lobo]

It's all ego, and yeah, being "trolled on Twitter" is a big deal to certain people.

Clearly

[Kalito]

Bad day Kalito?

Nah 

It's just so tedious some of the shit that gets spewed.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

I highly doubt that Salah gives a flying fuck about what you, trolls on twitter or internet say or think about him 

Some people have a reet bee in their bonnet about what he responds to when asked. Salah is the biggest star in the team. Media (sports and non-sports) love to talk to him and ask questions. Sometimes Salah says it how it is and gives an honest response to questions. What's up with that?

All the biggest sports stars in the world have egos. Who gives a flying fuck.

Your man Sadio Mane (who i absolutely love and adore, btw) has a big ego as well. "That's a fact.".

There are big egos in people from all walks of life.

Big fucking deal.

Big egos that's normal for footballers, but his ego in the last couple of months has surpasses even Cristiano's. I don't know what's going on in his head but i don't remember him being like this before.

[Dim Glas]

Big egos that's normal for footballers, but his ego in the last couple of months has surpasses even Cristiano's. I don't know what's going on in his head but i don't remember him being like this before.

he’s always been focused on individual prizes, he’s a forward, it’s how they tend to be! I guess it gets more apparent as he’s got to be a bigger and bigger star, with more and more focus, but it’s always been how he is.  Which is why I dont quite get why it’s a big deal now to be honest! Loads of the best fowards in football have massive egos and an obsession for being recognised as the best, Mo is no different.

I don’t see it as a big thing so long as he’s getting the job done for the team (as he’s done consistently since being here). 

[Kalito]

he’s always been focused on individual prizes, he’s a forward, it’s how they tend to be! I guess it gets more apparent as he’s got to be a bigger and bigger star, with more and more focus, but it’s always been how he is.  Which is why I dont quite get why it’s a big deal now to be honest! Loads of the best fowards in football have massive egos and an obsession for being recognised as the best, Mo is no different.

I don’t see it as a big thing so long as he’s getting the job done for the team (as he’s done consistently since being here).

Well said.

[SamLad]

Big egos that's normal for footballers, but his ego in the last couple of months has surpasses even Cristiano's. I don't know what's going on in his head but i don't remember him being like this before.

 

[farawayred]

he’s always been focused on individual prizes, he’s a forward, it’s how they tend to be! I guess it gets more apparent as he’s got to be a bigger and bigger star, with more and more focus, but it’s always been how he is.  Which is why I dont quite get why it’s a big deal now to be honest! Loads of the best fowards in football have massive egos and an obsession for being recognised as the best, Mo is no different.

I don’t see it as a big thing so long as he’s getting the job done for the team (as he’s done consistently since being here). 

To add to that, the best forwards in their peak years are getting shorter on time to achieve more. He's under pressure. If he doesn't get Ballon d'Or this or next year, will he ever?

I don't like the noise associated with this ramble, but it is what it is.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

To add to that, the best forwards in their peak years are getting shorter on time to achieve more. He's under pressure. If he doesn't get Ballon d'Or this or next year, will he ever?

I don't like the noise associated with this ramble, but it is what it is.

Bro, Benzema been performing at the highest level for over a decade, he's probably the best #9 (consistency, achievements, goals etc) in history of LaLiga and never had a sniff. It's bullshit award.

[Samie]

Happy Birthday Mo.

He's 30 today.

[Gifted Right Foot]

Really letting himself go in his old age.

[JohnSullie]

https://youtu.be/3GwjfUFyY6M

[JohnSullie]

My birthday too!   

[kavah]

https://youtu.be/3GwjfUFyY6M

Tune ! happy birthday Mo and Sullie 

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Really letting himself go in his old age.

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[farawayred]

Bro, Benzema been performing at the highest level for over a decade, he's probably the best #9 (consistency, achievements, goals etc) in history of LaLiga and never had a sniff. It's bullshit award.

I'd start with agreeing about the bullshit award jibe. But I followed Benzema since he signed for Real. Granted he did well overall, but I thought he would have been twice the player he is now if he waited elsewhere to develop before signing for them. He hasn't been what you make him to be for years; he's been good but not great. He could have been much more than Salah for years, instead he has the odd year when he's really good.

I don't think that Benzema has been near the top of the running for Ballon d'Or, but it should be his this year. And again, I agree, it's a bullshit award.

[stevieG786]

Happy Birthday lad!

[Barneylfc∗]

Happy Birthday Mo.

He's 30 today.

Has the club got him a cake?

[Mister Flip Flop]

Really letting himself go in his old age.

Unit

[duvva 💅]

Really letting himself go in his old age.

He’s not having this Darwin lad coming in here thinking he’s scoring all the goals now

[farawayred]

Where is his new hat? Worrisome days…

Happy birthday, Mo! And mo of Mo next season!

[No666]

Really letting himself go in his old age.

It's like looking at a mirror image of myself.

[FLRed67]

I highly doubt that Salah gives a flying fuck about what you, trolls on twitter or internet say or think about him 

Some people have a reet bee in their bonnet about what he responds to when asked. Salah is the biggest star in the team. Media (sports and non-sports) love to talk to him and ask questions. Sometimes Salah says it how it is and gives an honest response to questions. What's up with that?

All the biggest sports stars in the world have egos. Who gives a flying fuck.

Your man Sadio Mane (who i absolutely love and adore, btw) has a big ego as well. "That's a fact.".

There are big egos in people from all walks of life.

Big fucking deal.

Oh, he very much cares what people think of him.
 
He has an entire parallel career devoted to manipulating the message and his image, complete with professional photographers who travel with him on holiday, and a very savvy PR operation that knows where to spend money to get the exposure they want, and how and when to plant  stories and “interviews” in the media for maximum effect.

And they’re good. The GQ cover and article (“best player in the universe!!”), just before his contract renewals? Ooh, that’s some serious pull. Must have cost a pretty penny, also.

And the interview in France Football, who run that golden ball thingy (“I’m shocked, just shocked that I didn’t get more votes  last time!!”), just as votes are due? Simply outstanding work.

Yep. These Salah PR guys are good. Maybe even “best in the world”. 

But how does that saying go? You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time?

Let’s hope PSG or Real fall for the BS next time around. We’re done.

[Coolie High]

Oh, he very much cares what people think of him.
 
He has an entire parallel career devoted to manipulating the message and his image, complete with professional photographers who travel with him on holiday, and a very savvy PR operation that knows where to spend money to get the exposure they want, and how and when to plant  stories and “interviews” in the media for maximum effect.

And they’re good. The GQ cover and article (“best player in the universe!!”), just before his contract renewals? Ooh, that’s some serious pull. Must have cost a pretty penny, also.

And the interview in France Football, who run that golden ball thingy (“I’m shocked, just shocked that I didn’t get more votes  last time!!”), just as votes are due? Simply outstanding work.

Yep. These Salah PR guys are good. Maybe even “best in the world”. 

But how does that saying go? You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time?

Let’s hope PSG or Real fall for the BS next time around. We’re done.

Who’s done ?

[PaulF]

Maybe he had a large wager on him winning it. The winnings being enough to cover any shortfall in wage negotiations with us .

[KloppCorn]

Oh, he very much cares what people think of him.
 
He has an entire parallel career devoted to manipulating the message and his image, complete with professional photographers who travel with him on holiday, and a very savvy PR operation that knows where to spend money to get the exposure they want, and how and when to plant  stories and “interviews” in the media for maximum effect.

And they’re good. The GQ cover and article (“best player in the universe!!”), just before his contract renewals? Ooh, that’s some serious pull. Must have cost a pretty penny, also.

And the interview in France Football, who run that golden ball thingy (“I’m shocked, just shocked that I didn’t get more votes  last time!!”), just as votes are due? Simply outstanding work.

Yep. These Salah PR guys are good. Maybe even “best in the world”. 

But how does that saying go? You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time?

Let’s hope PSG or Real fall for the BS next time around. We’re done.

what are you basing on this? Are you the club? Quite a toxic post I can’t lie. This guy is a good lad he isn’t spinning PR shit like you are saying he is. Players can’t even be confident any more 

You are appreciated lads!!!

[stewy17]

This thread 

I barely enter player threads anymore, or match threads etc. RAWK used to be genuinely brilliant but seems to now be populated by the same ilk who populate weird twitter or facebook corners of the internet.

Mo Salah, there. With his ten-pack looking dead healthy and happy giving absolutely no fucks about what some person called something like FLblert69. In fact not even know that person exists, I'm afraid.

[Kalito]

This thread 

I barely enter player threads anymore, or match threads etc. RAWK used to be genuinely brilliant but seems to now be populated by the same ilk who populate weird twitter or facebook corners of the internet.

Mo Salah, there. With his ten-pack looking dead healthy and happy giving absolutely no fucks about what some person called something like FLblert69. In fact not even know that person exists, I'm afraid.

Nicely put. It's become a reet joke.

[PhilV]

Oh, he very much cares what people think of him.
 
He has an entire parallel career devoted to manipulating the message and his image, complete with professional photographers who travel with him on holiday, and a very savvy PR operation that knows where to spend money to get the exposure they want, and how and when to plant  stories and “interviews” in the media for maximum effect.

And they’re good. The GQ cover and article (“best player in the universe!!”), just before his contract renewals? Ooh, that’s some serious pull. Must have cost a pretty penny, also.

And the interview in France Football, who run that golden ball thingy (“I’m shocked, just shocked that I didn’t get more votes  last time!!”), just as votes are due? Simply outstanding work.

Yep. These Salah PR guys are good. Maybe even “best in the world”. 

But how does that saying go? You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time?

Let’s hope PSG or Real fall for the BS next time around. We’re done.

Lad, put the tin foil hat down and leave it down 

[SamLad]

Oh, he very much cares what people think of him.
 
He has an entire parallel career devoted to manipulating the message and his image, complete with professional photographers who travel with him on holiday, and a very savvy PR operation that knows where to spend money to get the exposure they want, and how and when to plant  stories and “interviews” in the media for maximum effect.

And they’re good. The GQ cover and article (“best player in the universe!!”), just before his contract renewals? Ooh, that’s some serious pull. Must have cost a pretty penny, also.

And the interview in France Football, who run that golden ball thingy (“I’m shocked, just shocked that I didn’t get more votes  last time!!”), just as votes are due? Simply outstanding work.

Yep. These Salah PR guys are good. Maybe even “best in the world”. 

But how does that saying go? You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time?

Let’s hope PSG or Real fall for the BS next time around. We’re done.

you seem to be off your fucking rocker. 

or your meds. not sure which.

I'd pick that shit of yours apart but couldn't be arsed - and your daft hatred of Mo is so baked in I doubt you'd even read it.