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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10280 on: October 4, 2022, 07:51:54 pm »
I've seen this posted on RAWK before but I don't remember people saying Cole was weak defensively.  If anything he had a reputation for constantly pocketing flying wingers.  Ronaldo specifically.

Yeah he wasn’t at all, his defending was what he was praised for more than anything.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10281 on: October 4, 2022, 08:09:42 pm »
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10282 on: October 4, 2022, 08:10:22 pm »
Gary Neville showed him how to do that.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10283 on: October 4, 2022, 08:12:22 pm »
Can’t defend for shit this lad
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10284 on: October 4, 2022, 08:14:31 pm »
Gary Neville showed him how to do that.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10285 on: October 4, 2022, 09:58:16 pm »
Why was Trent booked

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10286 on: October 4, 2022, 09:59:03 pm »
Why was Trent booked

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10287 on: October 4, 2022, 09:59:32 pm »
A good game from Trent today and a gorgeous goal.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10288 on: October 4, 2022, 09:59:42 pm »
He even explained it to Klopp when he came off.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10289 on: October 4, 2022, 10:05:30 pm »
Good free kick, but can he play in a back 5?

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10290 on: October 4, 2022, 10:08:24 pm »
I've seen this posted on RAWK before but I don't remember people saying Cole was weak defensively.  If anything he had a reputation for constantly pocketing flying wingers.  Ronaldo specifically.

Yeah. Including Euro 2004 when he was still at Arsenal. Was he still there in 2006 too, I lose track? Either way, I agree with you that he was defensively solid pretty much throughout his career unless in his first season or two he had a bit of a reputation for being flaky that I’ve forgotten about.

Anyway, we’ll played Trent, and what a free kick.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10291 on: October 4, 2022, 10:13:37 pm »
Brilliant performance.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10292 on: October 4, 2022, 10:26:12 pm »
Seemed like we didn’t ask him to play every position on the pitch today and unsurprisingly he looked the world beater we all know he is.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10293 on: October 4, 2022, 10:28:50 pm »
I was glad to see him not pop up in all different positions and just stuck to what he’s magnificent at. Excellent performance.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10294 on: October 4, 2022, 10:37:22 pm »
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10295 on: October 4, 2022, 10:40:05 pm »
These gobshites on BT Sport throwing Trent a pity party while itching to say something nasty about his "defensive frailties" are really funny tonight. One thing they haven't mentioned is how it's mainly people like them that have spearheaded the media campaign against Alexander-Arnold since he was nineteen years old. Plain as day it's professional jealousy. They wish they were as talented as Trent and winning Champions Leagues at 19.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10296 on: October 4, 2022, 11:46:12 pm »
We will see how it goes at the weekend, but after that performance from Trent tonight, it feels to me like at least one of the things Klopp meant when talking about going "back to basics" and "offering protection" to our defenders was based on how we used Trent. He just played at right-back, didn't he? And the goal would have settled him down, but even without that, he just looked considerably more comfortable and dangerous.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10297 on: October 4, 2022, 11:56:48 pm »
Gary Neville showed him how to do that.

nah.  crap goal - his studs came off the ground ffs.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10298 on: October 5, 2022, 12:00:03 am »
I was glad to see him not pop up in all different positions and just stuck to what he’s magnificent at. Excellent performance.
Seemed like we didn’t ask him to play every position on the pitch today and unsurprisingly he looked the world beater we all know he is.

yep and yep.  he, and we. looked a lot more controlled and comfortable. although maybe it's just a one-off given the less-than-stellar oppo.  interesting to see what we do on Sunday.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10299 on: October 5, 2022, 12:01:33 am »
any of the stat-heads know what mileage Trent put in tonight vs Saturday?

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10300 on: October 5, 2022, 12:32:47 am »
any of the stat-heads know what mileage Trent put in tonight vs Saturday?

it's kilometers. come on Sam.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10301 on: October 5, 2022, 12:37:02 am »
it's kilometers. come on Sam.
miles, kilometres, yards, millimeters ..... whatever.

no nautical miles, though.  never understood them.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10302 on: October 5, 2022, 07:39:28 am »
We will see how it goes at the weekend, but after that performance from Trent tonight, it feels to me like at least one of the things Klopp meant when talking about going "back to basics" and "offering protection" to our defenders was based on how we used Trent. He just played at right-back, didn't he? And the goal would have settled him down, but even without that, he just looked considerably more comfortable and dangerous.

great to see him playing the way he did last night, focused on his responsibilities at right back, and offering forwards key passes for scoring chances.  Another  possible change is also seeing Salah coming back on a few occasions to help defend the space in front of TAA


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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10303 on: October 5, 2022, 08:50:08 am »
Seemed like we didn’t ask him to play every position on the pitch today and unsurprisingly he looked the world beater we all know he is.

This. We were overcomplicating things just for the sake of it when how he played before simply worked. It's no surprise that he put in the performance that he did. Go on Trent!!

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10304 on: October 5, 2022, 09:25:23 am »
Rangers did get in down TAA’s side in exactly the way Tifo was describing the other day.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10305 on: October 5, 2022, 10:28:11 am »
That free kick was a nice 'fuck you' to his critics and its great to see that beaming smile.

A few more solid defensive performances and the media narrative will ebb away, and goons like Neville, Ferdinand and the Talkshite muppets will move onto their next clickbait.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10306 on: October 5, 2022, 11:53:47 am »
That free kick was a nice 'fuck you' to his critics and its great to see that beaming smile.

A few more solid defensive performances and the media narrative will ebb away, and goons like Neville, Ferdinand and the Talkshite muppets will move onto their next clickbait.

No one was questioning his quality on the ball so the free kick isn't really a fuck you to anyone.

People like Neville have talked about his defending for years. A few good performances won't change that. He'll need to be more solid defensively over a long period of time.

Trent is a great player and I wouldn't swap him for any other right back, but he has to improve his defending. He doesn't do the basics of defending well enough. This has always been the case and isn't a new thing.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10307 on: October 5, 2022, 12:05:32 pm »
No one was questioning his quality on the ball so the free kick isn't really a fuck you to anyone.

People like Neville have talked about his defending for years. A few good performances won't change that. He'll need to be more solid defensively over a long period of time.

Trent is a great player and I wouldn't swap him for any other right back, but he has to improve his defending. He doesn't do the basics of defending well enough. This has always been the case and isn't a new thing.

That’s not a great take, he’s historically great at defending.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10308 on: October 5, 2022, 12:12:17 pm »
Think this was a good analysis of our problems and the changes last night. https://youtu.be/oXbsVVpe3F4 It highlight where TAA is being caught out and let down by the system at the moment. Actually his defending is generally good but the system has been found out by other teams as described in the video. Still needs to work on his awareness and the team need to work together better.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10309 on: October 5, 2022, 12:22:31 pm »
That’s not a great take, he’s historically great at defending.
Yes he is, the problem is that as he's evolved into such an incredible passer, our system has put more demands on him which either leaves him exposed or out of position. When all our players are on form and in peak fitness this is less of an issue as we can cover him but recently it's been badly exposed.

It's interesting we looked to 'reset' his position last night and take some of the complexity out of it.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10310 on: October 5, 2022, 12:28:53 pm »
Played very well last night albeit not really tested defensively. Martinelli and Zinchenko down that side on Sunday will represent a much harder assignment as we know.

Positionally played we a proper full back though which is encouraging.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10311 on: October 5, 2022, 12:48:39 pm »
No one was questioning his quality on the ball so the free kick isn't really a fuck you to anyone.

People like Neville have talked about his defending for years. A few good performances won't change that. He'll need to be more solid defensively over a long period of time.

Trent is a great player and I wouldn't swap him for any other right back, but he has to improve his defending. He doesn't do the basics of defending well enough. This has always been the case and isn't a new thing.

I do think certain aspects of his defending are the areas where most improvement is needed, but I wouldn't say he's not been doing it well enough for a prolonged period of time. I've always thought he was quite a solid defender. The Rashford goal at Old Trafford in 2018 put an idea in a lot of people's minds, but I would find it difficult to think of another major mistake he has made until the last couple of months. I still maintain that this situation is as much as anything down to how the manager and the manager's coaching staff have been wanting to use him.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10312 on: October 5, 2022, 12:52:13 pm »
Who even cares if he's 'only' a decent defender? If he can improve there, great. If it starts taking away from his attacking game then don't bother. I've watched football long enough that I know a generational player when I see one, and I've never seen anyone influence games from full back the way he does (and thats in a lifetime that has included Maldini, Cafu, Roberto-Carlos, Dani Alves and Wan-Bissaka at their peak).
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10313 on: October 5, 2022, 12:55:55 pm »
Listened to his post-match interview and he answered the questions well. He takes a lot of stick from social media but I think he is wise enough to realise that those who are objective and have played the game at a high level know that TAA is an exceptional footballer.

Unfortunately in the modern world, there are loads of pricks who get their chance to vent their bile about players who they don't like simply because the players are good and play for another club. They dominate social media with their noise and anyone who is remotely famous should not personally read any of the comments.

I'm not sure if it was Andy Townsend who I was listening to yesterday commentating but he was full of praise for TAA.
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10314 on: October 5, 2022, 01:02:57 pm »
Who even cares if he's 'only' a decent defender? If he can improve there, great. If it starts taking away from his attacking game then don't bother. I've watched football long enough that I know a generational player when I see one, and I've never seen anyone influence games from full back the way he does (and thats in a lifetime that has included Maldini, Cafu, Roberto-Carlos, Dani Alves and Wan-Bissaka at their peak).

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10315 on: October 5, 2022, 04:39:43 pm »
Amazing what happens when he's asked to play mainly right back and not right back, right midfielder, center midfielder and center forward in a 90 minute span. Defended better and was still a creative force.

Let's stick with this plan, shall we Jurgen?   ;D
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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10316 on: October 7, 2022, 12:33:35 am »
Happy 24th birthday to Trent.  :)


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« Reply #10317 on: October 7, 2022, 08:28:25 am »
Happy 24th birthday to Trent.  :)

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Re: Trent Alexander-Arnold
« Reply #10318 on: October 7, 2022, 11:25:01 am »
Happy birthday Trento!

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« Reply #10319 on: October 7, 2022, 08:56:43 pm »
Fuckin’ell he’ll be 30 in six years… getting old that lad.

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