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2021 Who is the best

Ally McCoist
Pat Nevin
Liam Rosenior
Andres Cantor
Lutalo Muhammad
Barry Davies
Nasser Hussain
Michael Johnson
Gaby Logan
Natalie Sawyer
Andy Brasswell
Orla Chennaoui
Arlo White
Hazel Irvine
Ebony Rainford-Brent
Isa Guha
Clare Balding
Chris Hoy
Becky Adlington
Beth Tweddle
Katherine Grainger
Richie Woodhall
Kelly Cates
Alan Shearer
Gary Lineker
Gary Neville
Jamie Carragher
Graeme Souness
Martin Tyler
John Champion
Clive Tyldesley
Jim Beglin
Ian Darke
Seb Hutchinson
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9880 on: December 7, 2022, 08:08:11 pm »
Sutton complains and moans, while spending half the time commenting on unrelated things that have nothing to do with the game. Upson has been quite good. I'm surprised he hasn't been picked up to do more TV stuff. Nevin and Rob Green are alright as well

Is that Alistair Bruce Ball? Awful commentator, one of the loudmouths/banter boys who has nothing to say who'll inevitably end up on TV like all the other shite there.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9881 on: December 8, 2022, 02:36:08 am »
Is that Alistair Bruce Ball? Awful commentator, one of the loudmouths/banter boys who has nothing to say who'll inevitably end up on TV like all the other shite there.

Yes. I believe they are paired together

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9882 on: December 8, 2022, 05:37:33 am »
Not somebody who really gets mentioned on here, but with his latest comments, Ruud Gullit joins the clueless gobshite ranks of pundits spouting idiocy with his claims that Alisson always has a mistake in him and he'd prefer Ederson over him for Brazil. Ignoring the point that he is wrong for a moment, having a mistake in you would be fine when it is also accompanied by many, many saves unlike Ederson who rarely saves anything when the protection that city usually provide him breaks down.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9883 on: December 8, 2022, 10:05:42 am »
Rene Mullenstein on radio this morning being asked about Ronaldo and would he pick him for the quarter finals. Completely dodged the question but said he would not want to be the manager of Portugal right now. Why on earth not? They're coming off the back of their best performance in the competition and in with a real shout of being wordld champion. Strange comment. Managers are the boss of teams, not Ronaldo.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9884 on: December 8, 2022, 10:34:19 am »
Rene Mullenstein on radio this morning being asked about Ronaldo and would he pick him for the quarter finals. Completely dodged the question but said he would not want to be the manager of Portugal right now. Why on earth not? They're coming off the back of their best performance in the competition and in with a real shout of being wordld champion. Strange comment. Managers are the boss of teams, not Ronaldo.

Depends on whether or not the Portuguese media and people are as mental as ours. Not watching the W/C, but the result the other night seems to suggest the are better without he who fannies about and dives around, but if he keeps the same side, which I would based on what I've heard, and they go out, he could get untold shit.
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9885 on: December 8, 2022, 11:19:30 am »
Depends on whether or not the Portuguese media and people are as mental as ours. Not watching the W/C, but the result the other night seems to suggest the are better without he who fannies about and dives around, but if he keeps the same side, which I would based on what I've heard, and they go out, he could get untold shit.

Yeah that's true he could. But reports are that Ronaldo has been utterly shit when he has played. What an opportunity for a manager though. Quarter final against Morocco.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9886 on: December 9, 2022, 09:03:32 pm »

Keown apparently having another stormer tonight - Argentina v Netherlands...

Martin Keown: “it’s a yellow card for Ake. “I don’t know what for, but the referee will know”.

“Almost the whole of Argentina are in here tonight!” - all 45 million of them in an 88000 seater. Sure Martin, sure - maybe if you talk to the FIFA match attendance guy, sure...

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9887 on: December 9, 2022, 09:07:59 pm »
Mate, he criticised Virj for having a poor record of goals for Holland. Am an who scored no more than 2 goals in his career.  ;D

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9888 on: December 9, 2022, 09:19:40 pm »
Known keeps saying Holland. But Holland is a region of the Netherlands.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9889 on: December 9, 2022, 09:24:52 pm »
Known keeps saying Holland. But Holland is a region of the Netherlands.

Wow really? I still call them Holland. Why were they ever referred to as Holland?

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9890 on: December 9, 2022, 09:28:35 pm »
Wow really? I still call them Holland. Why were they ever referred to as Holland?

Not sure, but my mate lives there and he told me this. Surprised me as well.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9891 on: December 9, 2022, 09:30:01 pm »
Keown throwing the production crew under the bus there saying they make them sound good.

To be fair that's an impossible job in his case

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9892 on: December 9, 2022, 10:21:51 pm »
Keown said, 'Holland or The Netherlands as we are now allowed call them' I didn't realise there was a ban on calling them The Netherlands!

The BBC really have the worst pundits and co-commentators at this world cup.


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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9893 on: December 9, 2022, 11:33:00 pm »
Wow really? I still call them Holland. Why were they ever referred to as Holland?
It was historically the main (i.e richest, most powerful) region of The Netherlands. It's like how some people abroad call the UK 'England'.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9894 on: December 9, 2022, 11:35:41 pm »
Known keeps saying Holland. But Holland is a region of the Netherlands.

Van Dijk calls them Holland, so i’m happy calling them either!!

Keown constantly chats crap, but at least he is willing to accept when he has got something wrong after a replay
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9895 on: December 10, 2022, 07:15:49 am »
Don’t mind Pat Nevin and McCoist.

Would like to load a cannon with shit and fire it at Richards, Tyler, Neville and Lineker
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9896 on: December 10, 2022, 08:20:19 am »
Don’t mind Pat Nevin and McCoist.

Would like to load a cannon with shit and fire it at Richards, Tyler, Neville and Lineker

Save a bit of shit for Jenas.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9897 on: December 10, 2022, 11:19:35 am »
I don't actually mind Lineker. Got a quite relaxed presenting style which I find ok. Everyone else that has been named though deffo. And throw in Clinton Morrison.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9898 on: December 10, 2022, 01:50:30 pm »
Would like to load a cannon with shit and fire it at Richards, Tyler, Neville and Lineker
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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9899 on: December 10, 2022, 10:50:43 pm »
Keown is dreadful. He just talks bullox constantly. England have gone backwards in this tournament but went forward.  Argentina Penalty was straight down the middle even though if went right in the corner of the net. Same game really in the balance with both teams even but a corner comes and its all one way traffic now.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9900 on: December 11, 2022, 12:55:20 am »
Don’t mind Pat Nevin and McCoist.

Would like to load a cannon with shit and fire it at Richards, Tyler, Neville and Lineker
Richards is atrocious, as is Jenas, Murphy, Keown and Shearer, if Neville could be objective when talking about "Manch'ster United" he'd be OK as he offers decent analysis, Carragher is also a joke.

I tend to favour the pundits that actually sound as if they like football, such as Ally McCoist, he's brilliant.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9901 on: December 11, 2022, 02:33:13 am »
Mccoist is hands down the best pundit by a country mile.
Ian Wright is tidy, clearly has a soft spot for us.

Laura woods I like as a host too.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9902 on: December 11, 2022, 05:51:33 am »
Mccoist is hands down the best pundit by a country mile.
Ian Wright is tidy, clearly has a soft spot for us.


Crucial thing with both of these two is that they manage to convey their enjoyment of football while not treating the job of pundit/commentator as if it is some kind of chore rather than the massive privilege it is. They both also seem to recognise their own strengths and limitations so they tend to speak with authority on the areas they know better rather than trying to fake it across all aspects of the game like some.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9903 on: December 11, 2022, 05:06:55 pm »
Mccoist is hands down the best pundit by a country mile.
Ian Wright is tidy, clearly has a soft spot for us.

Laura woods I like as a host too.
Having met, had a few bevvies and spent a few hours playing golf with McCoist, what you see/hear is what you get with him. Genuine fella.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9904 on: December 11, 2022, 09:33:36 pm »
Sam Materface didn't hang about getting stuck into Kane did he with his we needed a Linekar but git Chris Waddle line. Also heard Robbie Savage on 606 just refusing to talk about Ronaldo or answer questions about him. Very professional

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9905 on: December 11, 2022, 09:35:57 pm »
Sam Materface didn't hang about getting stuck into Kane did he with his we needed a Linekar but git Chris Waddle line. Also heard Robbie Savage on 606 just refusing to talk about Ronaldo or answer questions about him. Very professional
Robbie Savage and a fair few of the empty-headed quims have been stealing a living for a fair few years now, and will continue to do so in the future.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9906 on: December 11, 2022, 09:43:02 pm »
Robbie Savage and a fair few of the empty-headed quims have been stealing a living for a fair few years now, and will continue to do so in the future.

I'm not a big fan of Chris Sutton either to be honest, but he always puts Savage on the spot when it comes to anything linked to Man Utd or their players. Savage either ignores the question or tries to poke fun at either Sutton or the caller. BBC are ok with it I guess so he'll keep doing it

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9907 on: December 11, 2022, 09:52:06 pm »
I'm not a big fan of Chris Sutton either to be honest, but he always puts Savage on the spot when it comes to anything linked to Man Utd or their players. Savage either ignores the question or tries to poke fun at either Sutton or the caller. BBC are ok with it I guess so he'll keep doing it
Che Neville is the same when it comes to discussing all things Yernited, unless it's about their owners.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9908 on: December 11, 2022, 09:57:49 pm »
I'm not a big fan of Chris Sutton either to be honest, but he always puts Savage on the spot when it comes to anything linked to Man Utd or their players. Savage either ignores the question or tries to poke fun at either Sutton or the caller. BBC are ok with it I guess so he'll keep doing it

Savage son is at United he will not say anything negative whilst he is there.

Neville is far more dangerous as people actually believe he is top notch pundit he isnt and over the last month he has really made himself look stupid

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9909 on: December 11, 2022, 09:57:58 pm »
Che Neville is the same when it comes to discussing all things Yernited, unless it's about their owners.

Indeed. He has quite a bit to say then doesn't he. Him and his money is ruining football and his give managers time hypocrisy. You can understand to a point Savage not getting stuck into Utd when his son is there but even on topics that are not even up for debate he won't speak. 2 in particular when he refuses to say Ronaldo has been unprofessional and disrespectful, and when he refused to admit Harry Maguire was playing bad in the season.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9910 on: December 12, 2022, 09:52:35 am »
Sam Materface didn't hang about getting stuck into Kane did he with his we needed a Linekar but git Chris Waddle line. Also heard Robbie Savage on 606 just refusing to talk about Ronaldo or answer questions about him. Very professional

Somebody being willing to be critical of Kane does make a change, just look at the sort of headlines that were in the papers the next day about lionhearts etc and contrast it with the amount of stick the lads who missed in the Euros got.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9911 on: December 12, 2022, 01:42:14 pm »
Somebody being willing to be critical of Kane does make a change, just look at the sort of headlines that were in the papers the next day about lionhearts etc and contrast it with the amount of stick the lads who missed in the Euros got.
how much abuse is Kane getting on social media?  none, I imagine ....

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9912 on: December 12, 2022, 05:11:51 pm »
Oh look. Mills being an aggressive dickhead for a change.

https://youtu.be/F1_AI9V7q_U

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9913 on: December 13, 2022, 12:31:14 pm »
Oh look. Mills being an aggressive dickhead for a change.

https://youtu.be/F1_AI9V7q_U

mills is awful - so arrogant, can't stand him.

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« Reply #9914 on: December 13, 2022, 02:33:05 pm »
mills is awful - so arrogant, can't stand him.
Thick as pig shit as well. But I suppose he's in good company with the other thickos.

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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9915 on: December 14, 2022, 10:04:32 pm »
Rio Ferdinand the latest to trot out the old "yous strikers are all selfish" line in the studio, followed by a chorus of har har har's.  Tell you what, after listening to Micah Richards preview of the final when he was asked for it, can't wait now. It depends on which France and Argentina team turn up. And Messi and Mbappe will be key to their side winning.
Followed by Julien Laurens showing how its done, talking about why France miss Rabiot and why Camivenga isn't playing and how Konate gives more than Upimecano.

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« Reply #9916 on: December 14, 2022, 11:14:39 pm »
Rio Ferdinand the latest to trot out the old "yous strikers are all selfish" line in the studio, followed by a chorus of har har har's.  Tell you what, after listening to Micah Richards preview of the final when he was asked for it, can't wait now. It depends on which France and Argentina team turn up. And Messi and Mbappe will be key to their side winning.
Followed by Julien Laurens showing how its done, talking about why France miss Rabiot and why Camivenga isn't playing and how Konate gives more than Upimecano.

It all depends o who plays best and scores more.



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Re: Who is the best pundit? 2021 edition
« Reply #9917 on: December 16, 2022, 05:02:07 am »
Karen Karney is the most annoying

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« Reply #9918 on: December 18, 2022, 10:42:48 am »
Sit down, shock is better taken with bent knees.

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« Reply #9919 on: December 18, 2022, 11:32:29 am »
https://twitter.com/FootballRamble/status/1604144328997490691

A Tim Sherwood classic.
Let it sink in that this man earned millions as a football manager.