Topic: Lawless Liverpool?

[Stockholm Syndrome]

Some mad shit happening:

https://xcancel.com/Worldsource24/status/1742679820310364262?t=oIz_NJLAOCRgKI16_GlJKg

Not sure on that tweet chain. "A suspected Foreigner"

[c0burn]

Not sure on that tweet chain. "A suspected Foreigner"

Aye, twitter is awful. It's doing the rounds.

[CHOPPER]

The Liverpool Ghoul, is gonna love that.

[AlphaDelta]

Deemed a foreigner because he's wearing flip flops, fookin madness from some people.

[Redbonnie]

Is that video real?  Is there a nutter on the loose in Norris green with a shotty?  Nothing about it on the news just the showcase.

[Roady]

Finished work in speke about 10pm probably not related but loads of matrix and police cars flew past.seems too far away to be related mind.anyone know anything more about the showcase incident?

[Spezialo]

Went in after the newsagents and pointed the gun at one of the staff. Name and photo already going around.

[Spezialo]

Rumour now that he's been found dead in Crocky park.

[Redbonnie]

Being named on echo comments.

[Spezialo]

Pictures of him look like it could be same person. Similar build

[Redbonnie]

Pictures of him look like it could be same person. Similar build

Agreed

[AlphaDelta]

Arrested this morning about 5.30am apparently. He kicked off so the police tasered him.

[Redbonnie]

Mad that he was driving around with a gun and no warning to stay indoors. he could have walked into a pub and committed a massacre. Police were slow could have been another Hungerford as he had obviously snapped. No mention that he had access to a vehicle.

[rob1966]

Fucking hell 

Not clear but looks like could be anything from an AK47 to an AR15, fucking nuts that he's got that type of weapon.

[gazzalfc]

Looks like they have got him. Tazered and arrested a 49-year-old man in Fazakerley

[Elzar]

Alarming to see how many jumped on the 'foreigner' claim on social media, claiming a scouser wouldn't do such a thing. There are still plenty with right wing alignment in the city, despite them probably claiming not to be. (I used to work with someone similar!)

Glad nobody was hurt and they got him arrested.

[Jwils21]

A lot of discussion online (pinch of salt obviously) is pointing towards a local fella, ex forces with a troubled past.

Still plenty of "foreigner" shouts from both the usual crowd and the new wave of Liverpudlian right wing conspiracy theorists though.

[CheshireDave]

Fucking hell 

Not clear but looks like could be anything from an AK47 to an AR15, fucking nuts that he's got that type of weapon.

Apparently it is a vz. 58 Czech made rifle

[rob1966]

Apparently it is a vz. 58 Czech made rifle

Thank fuck he didn't go on a rampage, would have been another Hungerford

[ljycb]

Here's a good example of how misinformation takes hold when something like this happens. I live in Norris Green - spent last night a little concerned as things were developing. A few comments on the Echo's Facebook page were suggesting that there was a massive police presence outside a shop directly over the road from ours on Muirhead - looked out of the window and I don't think it had ever been more quiet.

[So… Howard Philips]

See the local mob who descended on the asylum seekers at the Suites Hotel in Kirkby are currently on trial;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-67927183

[AlphaDelta]

See the local mob who descended on the asylum seekers at the Suites Hotel in Kirkby are currently on trial;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-67927183

Reading some of that made my toes curl. I really despise the 'rent a mob' types who seem to be at the front of any dispute, often having travelled distance to get involved.

A contentious subject and slightly off-topic, but we seen this rent-a-mob mentality in 2018. What was a harrowing, absolutely heartbreaking situation, was hijacked by these balloon heads who sniff out any kind of trouble and get involved. It ended up with doctors and nurses getting threatened and abused as they finished their shifts, threats of the mob wanting to storm the hospital and the police issuing statements about malicious communication - in other words, people posting bullshit on Facebook.

[So… Howard Philips]

Reading some of that made my toes curl. I really despise the 'rent a mob' types who seem to be at the front of any dispute, often having travelled distance to get involved.

A contentious subject and slightly off-topic, but we seen this rent-a-mob mentality in 2018. What was a harrowing, absolutely heartbreaking situation, was hijacked by these balloon heads who sniff out any kind of trouble and get involved. It ended up with doctors and nurses getting threatened and abused as they finished their shifts, threats of the mob wanting to storm the hospital and the police issuing statements about malicious communication - in other words, people posting bullshit on Facebook.

Except in this case the majority on trial are local.

[AlphaDelta]

Except in this case the majority on trial are local.

Agree with you, although it did say one girl had travelled from St Helens to get involved. I know its hardly miles and miles.

[Son of Spion]

Agree with you, although it did say one girl had travelled from St Helens to get involved. I know its hardly miles and miles.

There were definitely outsiders there. Much of it was stirred up by outsiders too. The vile character Yorkshire Rose being one such person looking to mobilise people to these flashpoints.

[So… Howard Philips]

John Haase - a blast from the past.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-68009275

[Son of Spion]

John Haase - a blast from the past.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-68009275

I was just reading about him. I was surprised to see he's 74 now.

[So… Howard Philips]

I was just reading about him. I was surprised to see he's 74 now.

Haase featured in ‘Powder Wars’ a great read about the early days of the Liverpool cocaine trade. And Michael Howard had a somewhat shady role in his early release from prison after he tipped of Customs about hidden guns, albeit basically scrap.

[Statto Red]

A park has been cordoned off near Belle Vale, some dogs have been poisoned after eating an unknown substance.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/live-updates-police-cordon-park-28493345

[only6times]

A park has been cordoned off near Belle Vale, some dogs have been poisoned after eating an unknown substance.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/live-updates-police-cordon-park-28493345

Everton f.C championship winning chocolate.

[CHOPPER]

Don’t think it’s blag, armed police, guns out at Aintree Hozzy.

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Don’t think it’s blag, armed police, guns out at Aintree Hozzy.

Getting ready for the IDF.

[CHOPPER]

Kids eh, what larks…..


https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/police-confirm-no-gun-found-28658102

[gazzalfc]

Bomb squad in the Dingle

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bomb-squad-called-flat-businesses-29029144

[Red-Soldier]

Surprised nobody has posted this, yet:

Huyton Firm: Brutal organised crime group brought down by its own text messages

More than 30 serious criminals have been jailed after police cracked their encrypted text messages and uncovered a violent feud over stolen drugs.

Crime bosses in the Huyton Firm had planned to murder the men they thought had taken more than £1m of cocaine from them.

After a successful challenge in court, BBC Panorama obtained 10,000 of the firm's messages.

They reveal plans for brutal violence, including a hand-grenade attack.

The Huyton Firm - named after the part of Merseyside where it is based - has been run for 30 years by two secretive brothers. Following the conclusion of a series of trials at Manchester Crown Court, they can now be identified as Vincent and Francis Coggins.

The brothers and others in the firm spoke freely on the EncroChat messaging system, believing their encrypted conversations were completely secure.

Their messages give a unique insight into the inner workings of an organised crime group, revealing that:

    Vincent Coggins ordered violent attacks and murders, and boasted about personally slashing a businessman with a knife
    Francis Coggins sent photos of blocks of cocaine and the brothers discussed a deal for half a tonne of the drug - valued at about £16m
    The brothers talk about being helped by a corrupt police insider they refer to as "piggy"
    Key members of the firm shared personal photos, which helped police identify them behind their online usernames

Matt Horne, former deputy director of investigations at the National Crime Agency (NCA), told Panorama the gang's "industrial-scale trafficking of drugs" and willingness to resort to severe violence put them "in the upper tiers of organised crime in the UK".

In one message, Vincent Coggins threatened to torture a local businessman: "then we deside weather we slash him ,chop his fingers off or wotever". (All the crime group's messages are reproduced here with their original spelling and punctuation.)

The next day, he boasted about how he had slashed the man with a knife: "slash across face an smashed his eyes in an took half an ear an tonge".

The brutality of the Huyton Firm even shocked rivals in Liverpool's notoriously violent criminal underworld.

One anonymous source, who knows Vincent Coggins well, told Panorama that the crime gang were "deeply hated" by many people because of the "level of depravity that they go to, to instil fear and terror".

The messages talk about the Huyton Firm being helped by a corrupt police insider. The insider appears to have provided the crime group with printouts from the Police National Computer, that allowed the gangsters to see what detectives knew about them.

Merseyside Police says a thorough and extensive investigation was conducted by the anti-corruption unit and no officers or staff were identified in relation to misuse of police systems.

Like thousands of criminals around the world, the Huyton Firm thought the EncroChat software would keep their messages completely secure and their identities secret.

But French police cracked the encryption app and shared messages about 7,000 British criminals with the NCA in 2020.

The messages covered the period when one of the Huyton Firm's drug stash houses in Liverpool was robbed by rival gangsters.

In total, 32 serious criminals linked to the raid have now been convicted.

Vincent Coggins, who used the EncroChat handle "Moonlitboat", has been jailed for 28 years for drug trafficking and blackmail.

Other jailed crime group members include enforcer Paul Woodford (24 years and six months), drug dealer Michael Earle (11 years) and money man Paul Fitzsimmons (12 years and six months).

Their convictions could not be reported until the completion of the trial of Edward Robert Jarvis - another major player in the Huyton Firm.

He was found guilty of drug trafficking and blackmail at Manchester Crown Court on Thursday.

Crime boss Francis Coggins is on the run and believed to be abroad.

Panorama's request for copies of the 10,000 messages from the Huyton Firm that had been used in court was initially turned down. But the programme obtained the messages after making an application to the judge.

They provide a vivid account of how the crime group tried to exact violent retribution after the cocaine heist.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68857143

[Terry de Niro]

Surprised nobody has posted this, yet:

Huyton Firm: Brutal organised crime group brought down by its own text messages


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68857143

Watched a TV program on this on BBC 2 before.
Very scary stuff.

[Red-Soldier]

Watched a TV program on this on BBC 2 before.
Very scary stuff.

Indeed.

Thomas Cashman, the guy who killed that kid, was one of their hitmen.

[Baby Huey]

All the people buying their weekend coke should watch Panorama. From the beginning of the journey from Colombia to it's destination, wherever, it's a trade soaked in the blood of people.

Jarvis can't have been out that long, he got 28 years in 2005. He also got a POC Order in 2011.

[Millie]

Indeed.

Thomas Cashman, the guy who killed that kid, was one of their hitmen.

Olivia Pratt-Korbel

[courty61]

See that one of those brothers is on the run. Seriously how do they let people suspected like that get out of the country? Joke.

Agree with the sentiment of if anyone is buying coke for the weekend etc, just understand the damage it is doing.