Topic: The Anfield Wrap

[Fitzy.]

Yeah, sorry for your loss RedMark

[red_Mark1980]

Appreciate it guys, but its not necessary. Was just trying to put some perspective on Jurgen and possibly help people frame it in a different way.

Anyway, on people saying Klopp will just have to get on board with people singing his name, honestly think he'll tell people to pack it in or hell fuck off at Easter.

Up the annoying reds

[Big Bamber]

On the reaction to Klopp, I'm in a slightly odd situation (and I'll add now that this isn't me posting for sympathy or in any sort of holier than anyone way).

My mum's funeral was on Monday, and the immediate days after were very hard.

So initially hearing the news on Friday I was "oh please, not this week"

However after a relatively short time I'd realised that it's (for me at least) come at not the worst time

I'm devastated he's leaving, but ultimately he couldn't stay forever and coming in the month mum passed away has brought some perspective. This isn't me having a go at anyone who's feeling absolutely awful, but it's weird hearing people describing like he's dead.

He's a man (a great man) who has decided he's had enough of his job. It won't be the same without him, but the club remains.

Just saw your post, now. Sincere sympathy to you and yours.

[Dougle]

Jaut saw your post, now. Sincere sympathy to you and yours.

Likewise Redmark. Massive time in your life mate. Been there.

[red_Mark1980]

It's appreciated guys. Wasn't the aim.

I know no one wants to be the person who posts


"Yeah but what about What Gibbo said"

I say this in the realm of Gibbo being probably the most loved (judging by previous TAW "gigs").

Sorry Atko

[Zlen]

Almost everyone in the shows after Friday has expressed all sorts of emotions, from shock to concern, pride, love and so on. But nobody carried as much emotion in voice alone like Guttman in that Gutter. Man sounded properly broken and devastated.

[zero zero]

Just listened to the Rory Smith & Neil Atkinson next manager discussion. It was well-informed and thought-provoking, as always. Really well done to both and TAW in general.

And, just to add, my heart goes out to the largely shell-shocked crew who found themselves having to express their thoughts in the immediate aftermath throughout Friday. There was a couple of times when someone would say "i'm just talking nonsense now" (or some such), but really it was them realising the enormity of what they had just had to say out loud. Every Liverpool fan had a wobble on Friday, so appreciate having you all to talk me through what I was feeling.


Much love

[Kenny's Jacket]

There was a similar conversation on another thread re Klopp leaving  and comparing it to other  more serious issues.

People react differently. Mark (deepest sympathies) understandably thinks comparing to his mother dying a man leaving his job 2 year early isnt that big a deal, someone else might think, On top of my mother dying this other thing that brings me such joy is ending and the two combined can make each situation more acute.
I lost a baby nephew, it devastated the family and anything shit that happened at the time I seemed to be extra bothered about it.

I think looking at it either way is understandable.

As the great man once said
'Everything has an end, only the sausage has two.'

Yes Gibbo is very loveable and has a cheeky squeezable face.

UTR

[Alisson Wonderland]

A bit of talk on the Midweek Extra show about Pochettino and Chelsea being releived they don't have to play us again.  They're going to be shocked when the League Cup final comes round!

[Crosby Nick]

Love the Friday Show and enjoy listening to Jim the Arsenal fan. Him saying that Arsenal’s defenders are better than our attackers (without Mo, granted), feels a slightly wild shout. Maybe I’m underestimating them a bit, but in our current shape I think we should be able to go there and score a couple.

[red_Mark1980]

Love the Friday Show and enjoy listening to Jim the Arsenal fan. Him saying that Arsenal’s defenders are better than our attackers (without Mo, granted), feels a slightly wild shout. Maybe I’m underestimating them a bit, but in our current shape I think we should be able to go there and score a couple.

He's responding to when they spoke to the other Arsenal fan before the cup game and he compared Martinelli to Suarez.

Still not over that

[TepidT2O]

Great great question…..which promoters an excrement discussion

Who has been our best player this season…


(Although the answer is obviously VVD)

[ljycb]

Great great question…..which promoters an excrement discussion

Who has been our best player this season…


(Although the answer is obviously VVD)

Yeah, Virgil has been exceptional, but there are a couple who are really close behind him, namely Trent and Alisson.

[Kashinoda]

Was a really nice bit on Klopp from Jim Johnson that came up on the latest Lost Tapes.

[JackWard33]

TAW has a lot of good shows but it remains a weird gap that they don’t have a proper post match show
Most fan channels / outlets go big on this and have pretty in depth shows or discussions post match and I’d guess it’s when a lot of fans want content and reaction

Last nights was odd - not sure why Mo Stewart is hosting shows but phoning it in for 10 minutes.. telling your subscribers you don’t want to be there and then ending it asap with no proper discussion other than sad vibes wasn’t great

[Kashinoda]

TAW not having a 'proper post match show' is the maddest take I've read on here since S said Liverpool aren't in a title race about 12 hours ago.

They literally have two each match, they're never huge on analysis but that's what other shows are for. It's too emotive in the immediate after match for anything more.

Do agree the Post Match Pint was phoned in a bit, but it's definitely 'one of them'.

[Zlen]

Yeah. You have PMP - for quick bask in the glory or therapy session depending on the result. It’s raw and doesn’t go too deep. Then there is the proper show after - which is a middle ground between emotion and reason and finally the deep (but possibly dry for some) analysis on the Review. There is something for everyone, or any mood.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

TAW has a lot of good shows but it remains a weird gap that they don’t have a proper post match show
Most fan channels / outlets go big on this and have pretty in depth shows or discussions post match and I’d guess it’s when a lot of fans want content and reaction

Last nights was odd - not sure why Mo Stewart is hosting shows but phoning it in for 10 minutes.. telling your subscribers you don’t want to be there and then ending it asap with no proper discussion other than sad vibes wasn’t great

I think it's partly because TAW has become a little too stratified in terms of its structure of shows. Its like the lads on the post match pint were scared to offer actual analysis, because that's what the review is for, apparently. If it was Neil, Sean and Dan on the PMP, I'd get it. But it's different voices. Josh Williams is a great analyst. I wanted to hear his analysis.

[bradders1011]

Noticed how often Gibbo says "sort of" and now I can't ignore it, haha.

The Arsenal fan (Jim?) on Friday Show punctuates every clause with 'right' and it does my head it once I notice.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

The Arsenal fan (Jim?) on Friday Show punctuates every clause with 'right' and it does my head it once I notice.

I can't listen to him anymore because of this.

[Fitzy.]

Verbal tics are pretty common and I guess they're accentuated and more obvious if you talk on a podcast a lot. I used to work with an American girl in an office and she found it very amusing how I would say 'quite' before an adjective e.g. "that was quite good" or "that is quite interesting". She thought it was (quite) quaint and very English. I think the Arsenal guy is good value, to be honest, right?

[77kop05]

Verbal tics are pretty common and I guess they're accentuated and more obvious if you talk on a podcast a lot. I used to work with an American girl in an office and she found it very amusing how I would say 'quite' before an adjective e.g. "that was quite good" or "that is quite interesting". She thought it was (quite) quaint and very English. I think the Arsenal guy is good value, to be honest, right?

Right.

[Crosby Nick]

Verbal tics are pretty common and I guess they're accentuated and more obvious if you talk on a podcast a lot. I used to work with an American girl in an office and she found it very amusing how I would say 'quite' before an adjective e.g. "that was quite good" or "that is quite interesting". She thought it was (quite) quaint and very English. I think the Arsenal guy is good value, to be honest, right?

Yeah, I like him. It’s weird living in London now. You see loads of London/southern Liverpool or United fans. Always feels slightly strange when it’s the other way round. Obviously a family connection or whatever. But like Chris the Chelsea fan from Congleton too.

[Raaphael]

Love The Anfield Wrap. No other fanbased shows come close.

[Levitz]

She’s been on for a bit but just wanted to say I’m really liking the contributions of Beth Lindop. Excellent addition. 👍

[Garlic Red]

Hopefully won’t mind me putting a minor screenshot in. Love the writing on the wrap but a minor thing that does my nut in. Have I got a setting wrong on my phone/app causing this to happen with apostrophes or is it just a thing with the app?

[redgriffin73]

It's the same on mine, I assumed it was some kind of formatting thing at their end although is strange it's not been fixed if so as it's been like it as long as I can remember.

[Hij]

They do some adverts on paid podcasts as well.
I don't really mind honestly, as long as TAW folks get to run their business and produce content it's fine.
Also they aren't advartising any horrible companies and they do it within reason and tastefully, often offering discounts and so on.

So all fine by me.

I'd genuinely pay double to remove them entirely. I have to get out of the shower to skip forwards sometimes  Or dig my phone out to skip them. Personal opinion but after weeks of hearing it I start to turn completely off to the companies involved, but tbf Greene King and Nord VPN are front and centre of my mind while reading this thread!

While I'm here though I'll echo the comments on previous pages about Neil, once Klopp left and I read his piece I actually got to thinking what would I do without Neil's 'accompanying me' along week after week following the reds? Almost take him for granted! But I also (usually drunkenly) tell him he's the business every time I get the chance to see him.

[Hij]

Love the Friday Show and enjoy listening to Jim the Arsenal fan. Him saying that Arsenal’s defenders are better than our attackers (without Mo, granted), feels a slightly wild shout. Maybe I’m underestimating them a bit, but in our current shape I think we should be able to go there and score a couple.

Cheers Nick. We had to have them score one for us

[Hij]

I noticed that but two separate shows with different ads aren’t they? And I think they only have them on the free shows? All other podcasts have them, just a necessary ‘evil’ (obviously not that bad!) to help everything go out as we want.

Are the free shows just uploaded the same whether you're a paying subscriber or not?

[Crosby Nick]

Cheers Nick. We had to have them score one for us

Needless to say, he had the last laugh. Right.

[red_Mark1980]

I barely notice the ads.

I do remember someone on here recently saying seven minutes, which is ridiculous. I think even when Atko went into the 051 chat it was only around 3 minutes


Should add as I thought it at the time but things have been a bit hectic at home.

It was Adam Smith I think who made the comment about having different providers to stop a monopoly.

That only works when we can pick and choose which one we want. If our games are over three providers (as things stand) all it does is increase the consumer cost. It's a great point that I'd never really clocked.

All this has done is create more money for other companies. Discovery is now what £30. You used to be able to sign up on a monthly contract for BT for less. Was considering to watch a game tonight, us at the weekend and the away game in Europe. Screw that now.

[Hij]

Needless to say, he had the last laugh. Right.

[Dench57]

TAW has a lot of good shows but it remains a weird gap that they don’t have a proper post match show
Most fan channels / outlets go big on this and have pretty in depth shows or discussions post match and I’d guess it’s when a lot of fans want content and reaction

Last nights was odd - not sure why Mo Stewart is hosting shows but phoning it in for 10 minutes.. telling your subscribers you don’t want to be there and then ending it asap with no proper discussion other than sad vibes wasn’t great

Late to this and I'm not sure I agree about TAW not having a "proper post match show" - in terms of quantity they have the PMP for video and the Pink for audio immediately after the match. Then for more in-depth analysis they have the main show + the review within 24hrs usually. Would be interested to see which fan outlets you're talking about Jack when you say "most" go big on in-depth reaction immediately after games compared to TAW. Genuine question because I rarely listen to immediate reaction stuff outside of TAW.

I will say that for me Clive, the immediate reaction shows (Pink and Post Match Pint) just don't really do it for me anymore. They've lost the magic, both by diluting it into two shows but more importantly, the absence of high-quality contributors to those shows. In terms of hosts, I love Gibbo but he can't bring the same energy as Neil used to on the Pink. Gibbo has noticeably cut back on the ale for the Pink though which I'm thankful for, there was a period where he was clearly 8 pints deep and slurring his way through every show.

It's mainly the contributors though. I long for the days of post-match shows with Neil, Ben Johnno, Paul Senior, Gutmann, Adam Melia etc. That triumphant or cathartic energy just isn't there anymore.

[Jm55]

TAW has a lot of good shows but it remains a weird gap that they don’t have a proper post match show
Most fan channels / outlets go big on this and have pretty in depth shows or discussions post match and I’d guess it’s when a lot of fans want content and reaction

Last nights was odd - not sure why Mo Stewart is hosting shows but phoning it in for 10 minutes.. telling your subscribers you don’t want to be there and then ending it asap with no proper discussion other than sad vibes wasn’t great

They have two post match shows, usually totalling around 45-minutes to an hour of content.

You then have the review as well as either the Monday show or a Midweek Xtra if we play midweek, which mostly discuss the most recent match.

At the end of the day the shows in the immediate aftermath of the game reflect the way that the people hosting them are feeling, that means you'll sometimes get the best, or the worst of them. That Arsenal game was a shit performance, a shit result and quite a deflating afternoon, the way that they were on the Post-Match Pint just reflected how I felt, which is probably why I didn't even watch it until the following morning as I guess I 'didn't want to be there' either.

[red annie]

TAW has a lot of good shows but it remains a weird gap that they don’t have a proper post match show
Most fan channels / outlets go big on this and have pretty in depth shows or discussions post match and I’d guess it’s when a lot of fans want content and reaction

Last nights was odd - not sure why Mo Stewart is hosting shows but phoning it in for 10 minutes.. telling your subscribers you don’t want to be there and then ending it asap with no proper discussion other than sad vibes wasn’t great

There has been quite a lot of comment about what post match commentary is provided.

What exactly is it you think they are lacking? Frankly I think the available subscriber content is as much as anyone could expect.

[craiglfc7]

Hiya,
TAW Subscriber survey if you've got a spare 10 mins to fill out! https://thewrap.typeform.com/to/NlLK82Vn?mc_cid=ea2628fbfa&mc_eid=9f6645026d

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[DangerScouse]

Done.

[Jm55]

Hiya,
TAW Subscriber survey if you've got a spare 10 mins to fill out! https://thewrap.typeform.com/to/NlLK82Vn?mc_cid=ea2628fbfa&mc_eid=9f6645026d

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Done.

To be clear in the vast majority of cases where I’ve given a lower score for certain shows it’s generally because it’s not to my taste rather than because I don’t think it’s well done - for example I struggle with listening to much rival fan stuff probably just because I’m a bit tribalistic, so I tend to avoid those shows and on that basis I’ve given it a 3 as I don’t listen to it enough to give it anything higher (or lower).

Gave the Friday night a 5 as it’s great but if I’d done it after watching this weeks with Neil eluding to the League Cup Final not being a big game I’d have dropped it by at least one point.

[mattyyt]

Done, glad to see you’re asking opinions.

Similar to the reply above, could’ve done with a “not arsed” button on the questions about the shows, I skip the ones about other teams - nothing to do with the quality, I just don’t care about anyone other than Liverpool.

My biggest feedback is I miss a lot of the old lads, and the shows that touched on local life. I still miss The Rider, but I get that things had to change to attract a worldwide fanbase. Everything feels a lot more professional these days.