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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #320 on: May 21, 2022, 12:00:00 am »
Horse racing only exists for betting and should be banned.

It’s a multi millions if not billions business that employs many thousands. Without taking betting into consideration.

Online Casinos and slots are far more insidious.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #321 on: May 21, 2022, 12:20:32 am »
It’s a multi millions if not billions business that employs many thousands. Without taking betting into consideration.

Online Casinos and slots are far more insidious.
but would it exist without betting? what other revenue is there to sustain it?

serious question, I pay zero attention to horse racing and know nothing about its financial mechanics.

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #322 on: May 21, 2022, 05:42:10 am »
It’s a multi millions if not billions business that employs many thousands. Without taking betting into consideration.

Online Casinos and slots are far more insidious.

All that wicked money tainted by the suffering of horses. Definitely a bad thing, thanks for colouring it in for me, never even considered the financial aspect along with it tainting what people need to do for money. Ban em both, there's other jobs (it is perfectly possible even under this government to get a job where nobody absolutely nobody has a moral issue with your job, and ethical employers exist) and something else would rise up to fill the vacuum. It's the tradition and heritage argument I suppose, or dead men's baggage there's an unpopular one for you lol

How do you decide you're a jockey anyway? Are there loads of broken hearted 6 foot 2 brick shit houses who ended up in other trades who, when asked, get a tear in their eye that they never got to follow the jockey dream? Or does a jockey sire the next one, jockies in a lineage perhaps, jockies beget jockies, much like they do with the horses. My best chance of seeing a horse today is the racing channel and I live in a semi rural area. The balance is all wrong.


My demonstrably unpopular opinion is that gambling in all forms basically uh it can exist I guess but I don't actually get why I have to see adverts for betting around football on TV that's proper nasty exploitative shite. That's weird though it might not be unpopular as an opinion on a forum but it seems really normalised. Nope. Get it off telly (get it off the net ideally oh what a world that would be)
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #323 on: May 22, 2022, 07:43:39 am »
but would it exist without betting? what other revenue is there to sustain it?

serious question, I pay zero attention to horse racing and know nothing about its financial mechanics.

It would exist, maybe on a smaller scale. There are 2 dedicated to channels, plus terrestrial Tv at weekend. A lot of sponsorship is through betting companies, who make more on their online casinos and gaming products. Big companies have historically sponsored bigger races.

Racing is a business that supports other areas such as farriers, makers of tack equipment, (all of which needed for dressage, pony club, amateur races such as point to point) etc

Animal welfare is second to none in the UK racing world, and gambling online about to be subject to affordability checks.

Banning is a knee jerk reaction.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #324 on: May 22, 2022, 10:55:44 am »
Keanu Reeves is one of the most versatile and best actors of a generation.
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« Reply #325 on: May 23, 2022, 10:13:46 am »
Nah, not having that. He's within two years of Pitt, Cruise, Cage, Murphy, Downey Jr and even Depp, all of whom have shown much more talent and versatility over the course of their careers. That's before you get on to talents like Philip Seymour Hoffman, Benicio Del Toro, Jamie Foxx, Woody Harrelson, Tim Roth, Djimon Hounsou, Clive Owen and Paul Giamatti who don't have the same lead actor pedigree but who are all also within that age bracket and demonstratably better actors. And a vast array of actors once you expand that bracket to what's generally termed a generation.

Keanu's got great star power but he's best when playing a cipher, a blank in motion. When he tries to emote you get a turkey like The Watcher.

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« Reply #326 on: May 23, 2022, 02:56:51 pm »
Keanu Reeves, a versatile actor? Oh my golly! ;D

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #327 on: May 23, 2022, 05:20:03 pm »
People shouldn't go into threads to disagree

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« Reply #328 on: May 23, 2022, 05:21:30 pm »
People shouldn't go into threads to disagree

Depends on what the subject is.

Shouldn't happen in music threads, been guilty of this myself in the past, now trying to reign it in.
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #329 on: May 23, 2022, 06:44:51 pm »
People shouldn't go into threads to disagree
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« Reply #330 on: May 24, 2022, 06:34:33 pm »
If Paul McCartney has to play Glastonbury yet again he should be in the "legends" slot not headlining.

Headlining should be reserved for an artist/band who get the late night party going.
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« Reply #331 on: May 24, 2022, 09:30:38 pm »
Coca Cola is absolutely disgusting, just tastes like sweetened engine oil. Pepsi on the other hand is a great refreshing drink.

J20 is also extremely overrated considering people pay £4 for it at restaurants.

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« Reply #332 on: May 25, 2022, 08:46:10 am »
Marvel should have taken a break since Endgame. Maybe release the tv shows for disney+ but hold back on the films for a couple of years to build anticipation. Nothing has really been great except No Way Home.

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« Reply #333 on: May 25, 2022, 09:21:22 am »
There's not really any difference between Liverpool, Utd, Spurs, City, Arsenal, etc fans.  We're all just people.  The only time there is a difference is when there's football involved, but that's because of the history of each of the clubs.  You see posts like 'Everton fans are a different breed', but they're really not.  And the bulk of every fanbase is now made up from people all over the world.

If you spent a weekend with a group of fans, one from each of those clubs, and never talked football, you wouldn't be able to guess which team they support.
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« Reply #334 on: May 25, 2022, 11:40:26 am »
The whole Top Gun premise looks and sounds shite.

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« Reply #335 on: May 25, 2022, 05:22:10 pm »


If you spent a weekend with a group of fans, one from each of those clubs, and never talked football, you wouldn't be able to guess which team they support.
Imagine a weekend of "glamping" on a site - you'd pick them out alright
the Utd fan would pick the largest accommodation, and spend time bleating about how much it was a palace
The Ev fan would pick a wooden shack - complain about its leaky roof and trash yours when he came round
The Arsenal fan would complain that someone had their accommodation too close to him, and that he'd been there first
The City fan would get his rich da to get his mates to donate the best yurt, buy all the decent beer from the site shop and wonder why no-one seemed to like him
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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #336 on: May 25, 2022, 06:10:06 pm »
Everton are a great club with fair-minded fans, and are set to dominate the Premier League, and beyond for many years to come.

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« Reply #337 on: May 25, 2022, 06:18:38 pm »

the Utd fan would pick the largest accommodation, and spend time bleating about how much it was a palace


Snake Caravan, not Castle Gray Tent...
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« Reply #338 on: May 25, 2022, 06:31:42 pm »
Everton are a great club with fair-minded fans, and are set to dominate the Premier League, and beyond for many years to come.

It’s unpopular opinions, not off the scale deranged opinions 😁
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« Reply #339 on: May 25, 2022, 07:15:01 pm »
We will never get rid of the oil clubs as they are now more powerful than the leagues that they are in.
If your moral compass is Piers Moron then I ask you to think whether someone who oversaw illegal phone hacking and published fake pictures depicting War Crimes is an appropriate person to look up to. In fact, I'd suggest you're a bit of a c*nt.

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« Reply #340 on: May 25, 2022, 08:03:36 pm »
Everton are a great club with fair-minded fans, and are set to dominate the Premier League, and beyond for many years to come.

Said no-one ever
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« Reply #341 on: May 25, 2022, 08:04:18 pm »
We will never get rid of the oil clubs as they are now more powerful than the leagues that they are in.

Aint that the fucking truth

ESL without them is the only way sadly  :'(
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« Reply #342 on: May 25, 2022, 09:35:49 pm »
We will never get rid of the oil clubs as they are now more powerful than the leagues that they are in.
They're in bed with the government so they have free reign to run havoc. If Labour come into power then who knows, they might put their foot down on these c*nts. But I'm not holding any hope onto it.

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« Reply #343 on: May 25, 2022, 09:44:09 pm »
We will never get rid of the oil clubs as they are now more powerful than the leagues that they are in.

Not a fucking chance

So, now, we have it...


Uefa will not be told "what to do" after criticism over Kylian Mbappe's contract extension at Paris St-Germain, says its president Aleksander Ceferin.

French striker Mbappe signed a lucrative new deal at PSG having been strongly linked with Real Madrid.

After the 23-year-old decided to stay, La Liga called the French club's contract offer "scandalous".

Ceferin told BBC Sport that Uefa has "financial fair play rules which are quite strict".

"Whoever will respect our rules is welcome to play in our competitions; who will not respect the rules will not," Ceferin said.

"Look not Real Madrid or anyone else will tell Uefa what to do. They are outraged from one point of view and, as much as I know, their offer was similar to [PSG's] offer."

Uefa's financial fair play rules are designed to prevent club expenditure exceeding income by more than a set amount over each three-year assessment period.

Javier Tebas, president of Spain's La Liga, has described PSG's contract offer to Mbappe as an "insult to football" and tweeted figures pointing to the club's financial losses.

PSG are owned by Qatar Sports Investments, a subsidiary of Qatar Investment Authority (QIA), the state-run sovereign-wealth fund in Qatar.

Ceferin, president of European football's governing body since 2016, says he is "tired" of complaints about the sport's willingness to allow state-run clubs.

"I've said that many times and I will say it again, tell me one argument why they shouldn't be the owners of a club," Ceferin said.


"If you say that clubs belong to the fans, don't you think that the other English clubs have owners - they have owners from the United States, some from the Middle East, they have owners from England. So it's exactly the same situation and I'm really tired of these accusations without any concrete grounds.

"I want to know who broke the rules and if you break the rules then you will be punished."


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61579720

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #344 on: May 25, 2022, 10:25:00 pm »
he'll be saying that Kim Kardashian doesn't like cameras next.

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« Reply #345 on: May 25, 2022, 10:51:20 pm »
Everton are a great club with fair-minded fans, and are set to dominate the Premier League, and beyond for many years to come.
You obviously meant to post that in the bad jokes thread.  :)
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« Reply #346 on: May 27, 2022, 06:04:11 pm »
It's hard not to have ill-feeling towards those that choose never to work and are state-supported.
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« Reply #347 on: May 27, 2022, 06:10:02 pm »
It's hard not to have ill-feeling towards those that choose never to work and are state-supported.

Sadly I think that's a popular opinion.

The amount of stick that the relatively few who go down that route get is embarrassing, esp when you realise that it's the rich and corporations are the ones who are actually costing loads in lost taxes etc.

It's really not easy to avoid work and live on benefits these days and there aren't really that many doing it, but of course the right wing press would have us believe that it's every other household.
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« Reply #348 on: May 27, 2022, 09:08:23 pm »
It's hard not to have ill-feeling towards those that choose never to work and are state-supported.

This ain't addressed to you personally as you're decent but as someone who was on Universal Credit and survived and I choose that word with total honesty

What business is it of yours? Like there aren't bigger valid targets! People don't half cloud their minds up with what does not affect them

I heard this when I was on the dole and I used to tell people I would spend their specific tax contribution so they knew it was going to an ethical place.

Try it for years. Judge it after. Think you know? Try it again. Come close to death. (or, yknow. Trust me. That attitude is not based in reality. I've been there, I am in the best job of my life. To have this attitude is anti society. You may as well say Fuck the Sick)

.. Not against you personally, Drinks. You seem alright! But that attitude is rubbish.


My opinion today?


UNIVERSAL BENEFIT FOR ALL, FUCK THE COSTS, ALL, RICH TOO, ELIMINATE POVERTY, GET THE ECONOMY GOING, UNIVERSAL BENEFIT NOW NOW NOW
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« Reply #349 on: May 27, 2022, 09:14:48 pm »
I have almost a bit of admiration for those who choose not to work. Eschewing the scramble to have more than your neighbours and have the nicest house. Avoiding the tedium that is work. We should aspire to have a civilisation that doesn't spend the majority of its waking life working.

Dole money isn't a luxury life, I've been on it myself, even if only for 6 months.

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« Reply #350 on: May 27, 2022, 09:30:20 pm »
I think a universal income is a great idea in theory and I’d also welcome corporations being taxed properly and held accountable for previous tax dodging and full on fraud that they seem to have been allowed to perpetrate on the British public. It’s no great business of mine but it’s also a thread for unpopular opinions. I hold fairly liberal views towards most things but I also think that people need to contribute to society in some way, even if it’s not financially or for their own monetary gain. I’d love everyone to get universal basic income that would free many to create, help others and be free from the burden of living a typical capitalist life, but it’s hard to live outside of the established structures.

I’ve never once thought dole money is a luxury existence - my Ma was a case worker for the DWP for donkeys years and has told me straight how it is. I just think that in a system that doesn’t have universal income, it’s difficult to argue for a system of support to those who simply refuse to work. Those with any sort of ill health or issues that prevent them working, of course we should have a support network. Choose not to work if you want, that’s no issue, there should just be a limitation to how much support is available to those who choose to live a certain way.

I suppose the frame of context for my comment was that my Ma was assaulted last week (she’s alright thankfully, made of tough stuff) by a dirty horrible scrot bag who is fit and able to work but spends more time and effort avoiding it than getting one would take, who has been allowed on multiple occasions to go into the local job centres and threaten violence if he wasn’t given an advance on his benefits. A bloke who has literally told staff he refuses to work even though he could and he just thinks everything he wants should be paid for.

Ultimately crime and joblessness are symptoms of economic issues and where a country has clear and easy routes to training, career paths and clear independence, crime diminishes massively as a result. My statement was too sweeping - it should’ve been aimed squarely at a specific type of unemployed person, as opposed to demonising a whole category of people, which originally was never the intention. It’s an unpopular opinion thread though, it’s packed with generalisations.
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« Reply #351 on: May 27, 2022, 09:43:13 pm »
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« Reply #352 on: May 27, 2022, 10:02:18 pm »
I like RAWK.
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« Reply #353 on: May 27, 2022, 10:26:19 pm »
Krispy Kreme doughnuts are not that great. Give me a bog standard one with sugar and jam anyday.
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« Reply #354 on: May 27, 2022, 10:35:53 pm »
Krispy Kreme doughnuts are not that great. Give me a big standard one with sugar and jam anyday.

Agree. Most of the fancy ones are way to sweet. Fresh plain jam or custard ones are the best.

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« Reply #355 on: May 27, 2022, 11:01:26 pm »
Agree. Most of the fancy ones are way to sweet. Fresh plain jam or custard ones are the best.

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« Reply #356 on: May 27, 2022, 11:22:12 pm »
Doughnuts are horrible and cakes are crap

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« Reply #357 on: May 28, 2022, 08:29:25 am »
Agree. Most of the fancy ones are way to sweet. Fresh plain jam or custard ones are the best.
I like mine with jam in; and I hope you like jam in too.
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« Reply #358 on: May 28, 2022, 08:37:47 am »
I feel like I might end up with a blurb added to my profile signature here. 😁

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Re: Unpopular Opinions
« Reply #359 on: May 28, 2022, 09:10:00 am »
Warm, freshly baked bread is minging
As I've said before, the Full English is just the base upon which the Scots/Welsh/NI have improved upon. Sorry but the Full English is the worst of the British breakfasts.