Author Topic: Will Kenny or Comoli be scouting any players at the international matches (Read 349962 times)

stevensr123 · « **Reply #2680 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:33:33 pm »

Would happy just selling the likes of maxi, Joe cole and the slap head left back.

Wouldn't mind ashley young in, need a left back deffo and a very good centre back. And if we have some funds left, more attackers.

Steady improvement , nothing is gonna happen overnight and changing the squad too much, could make it worse.

TALBERT · « **Reply #2681 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:35:16 pm »

Quote from: Discipline on April 12, 2011, 12:32:05 pm

Retired Figo?

Eusébio

Discipline · « **Reply #2682 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:37:49 pm »

Quote from: TALBERT on April 12, 2011, 12:35:16 pm

Eusébio

Pauleta

Salonikios · « **Reply #2683 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:37:53 pm »

Sell Johnson (always unreliable) and buy Jose Enrique or Vargas. Play next season Kelly and Flanagan on the right or spend money on someone who can play as a wing-back and defend properly. Sell Agger (injury prone and Skrtel at least is more often available) and buy Cahill or Sakho. Sell Aquilani and buy Toivonen or... someone else as a second choice striker (i like Danny Graham). After all these, open the wallet and go for a world class wide player. Someone like Ribery. By the way, I will keep dreaming of Gareth Bale in a Liverpool shirt.
I just wanted to share some thoughts and find out what you guys think. Greetings from Greece.

Buzz Killington · « **Reply #2684 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:38:38 pm »

Quote from: Salonikios on April 12, 2011, 12:37:53 pm

Sell Johnson (always unreliable)..

lol.

88_RED · « **Reply #2685 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:39:17 pm »

Quote from: DanA on April 12, 2011, 05:07:20 am

I think being realistic:

IN OUT

Dzsudzsák -----> Jovanovic
Enrique ---------> Konchesky
Cahill ------------> Skrtel
Adam ------------> Cole
M'Vila ------------> Aquilani
Young -----------> Maxi
Stekelenberg --> Reina (If he desperately wants to go)

I think that'd do a good job of balancing out the squad without a huge outlay in the transfer market. Perhaps none of them are world class but all certainly add something to the squad. Given contract situations I think we'd have a fair chance of getting them all for under 30m (after player sales).

NAIL ON THE HEAD POST THIS... Would be absolutely made up if this was our Summer IN & OUT list...

ebbenebs · « **Reply #2686 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:39:18 pm »

Quote from: Cpt_Reina on April 12, 2011, 12:33:20 pm

Dream is the right word lol. But you have good taste i'll give you that.

I know

TALBERT · « **Reply #2687 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:39:38 pm »

Quote from: Salonikios on April 12, 2011, 12:37:53 pm

I will keep dreaming of Gareth Bale in a Liverpool shirt.

I won't

fefs · « **Reply #2688 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:40:13 pm »

Quote from: ebbenebs on April 12, 2011, 12:23:50 pm

Players out: Paul Konchesky, Christian Poulsen, Milan Jovanevic, El Zhar,
Players in: Fabio Coentrao, Neven Subotić, Paulo Henrique Chagas de Lima, Mario Götze, Alexis Sanchez.

Reina
Johnson Agger Subotic Coentrao
Lucas
Gerrard Ganso
Sanchez Suarez
Carroll

Subs: Götze, Meireles, Kuyt, Suso, Shelvey, Wilson, Kelly.

Anybody knows if Mario Götze is linked with any club? Despite us having two great strikers in the squad atm, I think we need a quality back up like Götze.

no keeper on the bench ?
and why does everyone think Dortmund , under no financial pressure, would win the league and then sell off their players ?

Hunter Thompson · « **Reply #2689 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:41:11 pm »

Quote from: Salonikios on April 12, 2011, 12:37:53 pm

Sell Johnson (always unreliable) and buy Jose Enrique or Vargas. Play next season Kelly and Flanagan on the right or spend money on someone who can play as a wing-back and defend properly. Sell Agger (injury prone and Skrtel at least is more often available) and buy Cahill or Sakho. Sell Aquilani and buy Toivonen or... someone else as a second choice striker (i like Danny Graham). After all these, open the wallet and go for a world class wide player. Someone like Ribery. By the way, I will keep dreaming of Gareth Bale in a Liverpool shirt.
I just wanted to share some thoughts and find out what you guys think. Greetings from Greece.

Not quite subtle enough. Try a regular hammer next time.

No666 · « **Reply #2690 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:42:13 pm »

Quote from: DanA on April 12, 2011, 05:07:20 am

I think being realistic:
Dzsudzsák -----> Jovanovic
Enrique ---------> Konchesky
Cahill ------------> Skrtel
Adam ------------> Cole
M'Vila ------------> Aquilani
Young -----------> Maxi
Stekelenberg --> Reina (If he desperately wants to go)

I think that'd do a good job of balancing out the squad without a huge outlay in the transfer market. Perhaps none of them are world class but all certainly add something to the squad. Given contract situations I think we'd have a fair chance of getting them all for under 30m (after player sales).

You're keeping Poulsen? (Or you've forgotten about him.)

justsean · « **Reply #2691 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:44:01 pm »

Quote from: DanA on April 12, 2011, 05:07:20 am

I think being realistic:
Dzsudzsák -----> Jovanovic
Enrique ---------> Konchesky
Cahill ------------> Skrtel
Adam ------------> Cole
M'Vila ------------> Aquilani
Young -----------> Maxi
Stekelenberg --> Reina (If he desperately wants to go)

I think that'd do a good job of balancing out the squad without a huge outlay in the transfer market. Perhaps none of them are world class but all certainly add something to the squad. Given contract situations I think we'd have a fair chance of getting them all for under 30m (after player sales).

I'd definitely keep Skrtel. Get rid of Kyrgiakos instead.

Also don't know much at all about Stekelenberg. Is he reliable enough? Manuel Neuer is an unreal goalkeeper. As is Lloris obviously.

PJG · « **Reply #2692 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:44:29 pm »

Quote from: TALBERT on April 12, 2011, 12:39:38 pm

I won't

hmm...I think if we qualify for the champions league, and say pepe leaves for 20 mill, then I think we may be audacious enough to try. Still probably not gonna happen.

ebbenebs · « **Reply #2693 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:45:04 pm »

Quote from: fefs on April 12, 2011, 12:40:13 pm

no keeper on the bench ?
and why does everyone think Dortmund , under no financial pressure, would win the league and then sell off their players ?

If you had read my next post, you would know it wasnt too serious.

And I just listed players i would like to see on the bench. I would say that a keeper on the bench is a matter of course.

bakstabba · « **Reply #2694 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:45:14 pm »

Quote from: Hunter Thompson on April 12, 2011, 12:41:11 pm

Not quite subtle enough. Try a regular hammer next time.

May have mistaken this thread for the 'bang your head on the keyboard and post the result' thread

Discipline · « **Reply #2695 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:46:41 pm »

Quote from: Hunter Thompson on April 12, 2011, 12:41:11 pm

Not quite subtle enough. Try a regular hammer next time.

Vulmea · « **Reply #2696 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:48:14 pm »

Quote from: Gnurglan on April 12, 2011, 10:23:40 am

We need a new LB. That's top priority. Aurelio is fine, but he's out injured too often. His injuries was the reason Insua played so many games last season and it's the reason we've played so many other players at LB this season. We can't depend on Aurelio. The tricky thing now is that he's got a contract and he's quality once he's fit. Robinson cannot be trusted yet. He can be given games, but he can't be expected to play half a season or more as first pick. He's just not ready yet.

We have Aurelio who is class, but can't play many games. We have Robinson who is on his way up and will need games. The problem is, apart from the obvious first pick LB being signed, it's likely that we are still not OK. Bring in another LB (Insua back?) and it would make sense. IF we offload Aurelio (and Konchesky, but that goes without saying). We can't stand there with four LBs. Once again, this was an easy problem to spot last summer, but we fucked up and we will have to pay the consequences for it in the next transfer window.

If it was up to me, I'd get Insua back, sign a top quality LB, offload Konchesky and Aurelio and use Robinson as 3rd pick.

Johnson has shown himself to be a better/as good a left back as right back and a player that can play eitherside is very useful. The fact he can also play wingback even better.
Aurelio can play left back, wing back or left mid again all useful - if only he could stay fit.

If we are going for a genuine quality XVIII to keep costs down then that type of flexibility is essential isn't it?

Can't agree on Insua unless we are going with wingbacks - a back four with Insua and Johnson as the fullbacks would be and was proven to be unworkable last season.

Presumably Flanagan and Robinson need to go out on loan next season or will Segura somehow solve the problem of turning 18 year old reserves into first team players?

Upside of a loan - more physical competition, first team experience - downside working with poorer coaches and poorer players and a different system.

Interesting summer ahead - if its true we've signed Enrique and Marveaux then its either going to be a whopping clear out or most of the expectations in this thread are way
too high.

James Mac · « **Reply #2697 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:48:30 pm »

Quote from: Salonikios on April 12, 2011, 12:37:53 pm

Sell Johnson (always unreliable) and buy Jose Enrique or Vargas. Play next season Kelly and Flanagan on the right or spend money on someone who can play as a wing-back and defend properly. Sell Agger (injury prone and Skrtel at least is more often available) and buy Cahill or Sakho. Sell Aquilani and buy Toivonen or... someone else as a second choice striker (i like Danny Graham). After all these, open the wallet and go for a world class wide player. Someone like Ribery. By the way, I will keep dreaming of Gareth Bale in a Liverpool shirt.
I just wanted to share some thoughts and find out what you guys think. Greetings from Greece.

In bold. Bearing in mind the job of the wing-back is to attack first, defend second. Anyway, Johnson is a good defender.

I perhaps agree on the Agger/Sakho switch.

Aquilani is going anyway, but Toivonen? No thanks.

DANNY GRAHAM?

FRANCK RIBERY?

GARETH BALE?

bakstabba · « **Reply #2698 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:49:36 pm »

I know Neuer is supposed to be a United target as a replacement for Edwin Van der Sar, but surely they wouldn't have 20m+ to spend?

Aristotle · « **Reply #2699 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:55:36 pm »

Quote from: bakstabba on April 12, 2011, 12:49:36 pm

I know Neuer is supposed to be a United target as a replacement for Edwin Van der Sar, but surely they wouldn't have 20m+ to spend?

They could if they sell Rooney?

bakstabba · « **Reply #2700 on:** April 12, 2011, 12:58:21 pm »

Ha! They're not negotiating his contract though... Think Coentrao may even just stay in Benfica for the time being if Barca don't go after him

RedBlakey · « **Reply #2701 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:02:35 pm »

Quote from: Salonikios on April 12, 2011, 12:37:53 pm

Sell Johnson (always unreliable) and buy Jose Enrique or Vargas. Play next season Kelly and Flanagan on the right or spend money on someone who can play as a wing-back and defend properly. Sell Agger (injury prone and Skrtel at least is more often available) and buy Cahill or Sakho. Sell Aquilani and buy Toivonen or... someone else as a second choice striker (i like Danny Graham). After all these, open the wallet and go for a world class wide player. Someone like Ribery. By the way, I will keep dreaming of Gareth Bale in a Liverpool shirt.
I just wanted to share some thoughts and find out what you guys think. Greetings from Greece.

Wow, that is some first post !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for your thoughts !!!!!!!

7777 · « **Reply #2702 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:06:03 pm »

Based on how well Flanagan did last night night, I'd love to see us save the money and swerve going for Enrique. I honestly think Robinson would do just a good a job on the left and they should both be given a chance. Kenny spoke of damaging their confidence too soon but Flanagan asked every question asked of him

United and Arsenal have blooded young full backs and in my opinion now would be the time with an old head like Carra still there. I'd honestly give Flanagan a run in the team until Johnson / Kelly were fit and see how he does

Robinson may even get his chance as Aurelio can't usually play a few games on the trot

I don't think they should play all games but I honestly think Flanagan and Robinson would be more than able number 2'/3's already. When you consider we have Johnson, Carra, Aurelio, Wilson and Agger who can also play at left back, I just don't see it as a priority and would prefer the extra 6-8m or whatever it would cost for Enrique to be spunked on a proper attacking talent like Sanchez, Turan etc

I feel the same about a centre half too. We've plenty of talent coming through and I think it would be a waste of money to spend big on a centre half. We've got Kelly, Wilson, Ayala and could even give young Wisdom a chance there if the game permitted

Let's see if they have what it takes to make it - we've wasted too much money on 'squad players'

XabiArt · « **Reply #2703 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:09:35 pm »

Quote from: Salonikios on April 12, 2011, 12:37:53 pm

Sell Johnson (always unreliable) and buy Jose Enrique or Vargas. Play next season Kelly and Flanagan on the right or spend money on someone who can play as a wing-back and defend properly. Sell Agger (injury prone and Skrtel at least is more often available) and buy Cahill or Sakho. Sell Aquilani and buy Toivonen or... someone else as a second choice striker (i like Danny Graham). After all these, open the wallet and go for a world class wide player. Someone like Ribery. By the way, I will keep dreaming of Gareth Bale in a Liverpool shirt.
I just wanted to share some thoughts and find out what you guys think. Greetings from Greece.

Jesus what a spectacular first post.

Can't wait for the next one.

bakstabba · « **Reply #2704 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:11:10 pm »

Flanagan and Robinson, although both very talented should only be a 3rd choice RB/LB at the moment imo. Its about strength in depth and with Konchesky leaving and Aurelio permanently injured, we need a first choice LB to come in. Aurelio can be 2nd/3rd choice in a rotation system with Robinson and whoever the new LB is. We may even buy another left back, maybe someone like Vargas who has that bit of versatility

Mr Kipling · « **Reply #2705 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:14:39 pm »

Quote from: bakstabba on April 12, 2011, 01:11:10 pm

Flanagan and Robinson, although both very talented should only be a 3rd choice RB/LB at the moment imo. Its about strength in depth and with Konchesky leaving and Aurelio permanently injured, we need a first choice LB to come in. Aurelio can be 2nd/3rd choice in a rotation system with Flanagan and whoever the new LB is

Spot on. Plus Flanagan will most likely be in direct competition with Johnson in a few years anyway at RB when Kelly moves to CB to replace Carragher.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #2706 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:17:44 pm »

Quote from: XabiArt on April 12, 2011, 01:09:35 pm

Jesus what a spectacular first post.

Can't wait for the next one.

I think someone has been playin too much football manager.

bakstabba · « **Reply #2707 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:18:34 pm »

Quote from: Mr Kipling on April 12, 2011, 01:14:39 pm

Spot on. Plus Flanagan will most likely be in direct competition with Johnson in a few years anyway at RB when Kelly moves to CB to replace Carragher.

Kelly needs to transition to CB now, someone posted earlier that Martin's body couldn't withstand the kind of intensity in sprinting for that position in the long run.

rastaferio · « **Reply #2708 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:20:20 pm »

Quote from: Agent99 on April 11, 2011, 11:44:41 pm

Fixed

From today's Rumour Mill:

"In this morning's Daily Mail Manchester City are planning to prove once and for all that they're not just hurling cash up into the air inside a big room and hoping when it all finally falls down on to the ground it miraculously spells out the word "team"."

Individuals indeed.

careful on these streets, I've heard stories · « **Reply #2709 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:20:21 pm »

Quote from: harleydanger on April 12, 2011, 06:18:49 am

That really doesn't improve us very much for 30mil. It'll be the same story as the last fifteen years, a group of OK players without any spark bar the occasional Gerrard/Suarez moment. Need at least one more game changer at the very least.

Think Young can offer that

careful on these streets, I've heard stories · « **Reply #2710 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:26:57 pm »

Quote from: Left_Egg on April 12, 2011, 08:59:31 am

I'd prefer to spend big on a few players than get a load of average/might be good in again. Look at Carroll/Suarez for examples. Especially with Kenny keen to push through the youth more (and the general thought is the academy is finally producing).

M'Vila won't move to us without champions league, and even if we somehow got that I've read Real Madrid and Man United are in for him

Adam is shit and I don't see how he would replace Joe Cole (a winger?)

ATM Carroll and Suarez are might be goods, their fees were really high because it was Jan and Carroll was a deadline deal. Players like Enrique, Young, M'Villa, Cahill will definitely improve us and have the potential to be better than what they are now. Not sure about Adam, or Dzs anymore, would prefer McCarthy and Afellay/Sanchez(if we can afford him)

Mr Kipling · « **Reply #2711 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:30:38 pm »

Quote from: scott on April 11, 2011, 11:02:42 am

been told that City are in the driving seat for Sanchez now

They won't be if he saw our performance against them last night.

Quote from: bakstabba on April 12, 2011, 01:18:34 pm

Kelly needs to transition to CB now, someone posted earlier that Martin's body couldn't withstand the kind of intensity in sprinting for that position in the long run.

Depends if Kenny can convince Carragher that his days as a regular are over and get him to be a bit part player and do his coaching badges. I can't see that happening for at least another season unfortunately

subroc · « **Reply #2712 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:32:10 pm »

Quote from: Salonikios on April 12, 2011, 12:37:53 pm

Sell Johnson (always unreliable) and buy Jose Enrique or Vargas. Play next season Kelly and Flanagan on the right or spend money on someone who can play as a wing-back and defend properly. Sell Agger (injury prone and Skrtel at least is more often available) and buy Cahill or Sakho. Sell Aquilani and buy Toivonen or... someone else as a second choice striker (i like Danny Graham). After all these, open the wallet and go for a world class wide player. Someone like Ribery. By the way, I will keep dreaming of Gareth Bale in a Liverpool shirt.
I just wanted to share some thoughts and find out what you guys think. Greetings from Greece.

You have forgotten how threadbare the shelf looked when both Johnson and Kelly got injured? Johnson is actualy a reliable and good fullback and is first choice currently - no way he should be sold. For strength in depth, we are in a great position now - having the England rightback in first choice, Kely as understudy who is keeping Johnson working hard and Flanagan to keep them both on their toes. Why int he world would we want to give that up?!

Agger is too good to sell and quality cover such as Cahill should be signed. I agree that Skrltel should be kept. Kyrgiarkos should be sold.

If Aquilani's option is not exercised by Juventus, then he should be brought back.

There is no way that Spurs would sell him to Liverpool, but Bale would be perfect as the attacking left back.

No point signing players such as Toivonen. What we need are flair and pacey players - either Sanchez, Hazard or Neymar or preferably 2 out of 3 of them for the right flank and/or auxiliary central forward positions would be a real statement of how serious FSG is at restoring Liverpool to greatness.

careful on these streets, I've heard stories · « **Reply #2713 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:32:12 pm »

Call me crazy but looking at the way things are it would make more sense to replace Agger than Skrtel. No doubt Agger is better than him but I think the squad will be better off. Having Cahill and Skrtel as starting CBs, rather than Cahill and Carra which will be the situation for most of the season with Agger injured.

Niru Red4ever · « **Reply #2714 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:33:52 pm »

Quote from: Salonikios on April 12, 2011, 12:37:53 pm

Sell Johnson (always unreliable) and buy Jose Enrique or Vargas. Play next season Kelly and Flanagan on the right or spend money on someone who can play as a wing-back and defend properly. Sell Agger (injury prone and Skrtel at least is more often available) and buy Cahill or Sakho. Sell Aquilani and buy Toivonen or... someone else as a second choice striker (i like Danny Graham). After all these, open the wallet and go for a world class wide player. Someone like Ribery. By the way, I will keep dreaming of Gareth Bale in a Liverpool shirt.
I just wanted to share some thoughts and find out what you guys think. Greetings from Greece.

Fine RAWK debut. Will be looking out for further gems from you

careful on these streets, I've heard stories · « **Reply #2715 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:34:29 pm »

Quote from: Fuzion6 on April 12, 2011, 12:16:46 pm

Question for all to ponder...if Charlie Adam does come to Liverpool - do you think Kenny is thinking of using him as a narrow left midfielder (ala Ronnie Whelan at times) and use his left foot to put balls into the box? Kenny does seem to favour a 4-4-1-1 formation - pair Adam him up with a speedster the other side and it could work....and hide some of Adam's defensive frailties?

Don't think so, but I bet that's what he'll do with Meireles

Naughtykid · « **Reply #2716 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:34:46 pm »

Quote from: hugoboss on April 12, 2011, 01:32:12 pm

Call me crazy but looking at the way things are it would make more sense to replace Agger than Skrtel. No doubt Agger is better than him but I think the squad will be better off. Having Cahill and Skrtel as starting CBs, rather than Cahill and Carra which will be the situation for most of the season with Agger injured.

Much rather keep Agger, and limit him to 1 game a week, then keep Sktrel.

Sktrel is a liability.

spena · « **Reply #2717 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:35:24 pm »

The big issue like ever will be actually signing any of these players....You can see United being in for Young and Adam and City will be sniffiing around Cahill. I just hope our transfer business is being conducted right now as normally once the window re-opens in the summer most big deals have already been agreed

spuddastud · « **Reply #2718 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:36:33 pm »

Quote from: TALBERT on April 12, 2011, 12:39:38 pm

I won't

bakstabba · « **Reply #2719 on:** April 12, 2011, 01:36:40 pm »

Quote from: Mr Kipling on April 12, 2011, 01:30:38 pm

Depends if Kenny can convince Carragher that his days as a regular are over and get him to be a bit part player and do his coaching badges. I can't see that happening for at least another season unfortunately

So much depends on what Carra's going to do in the next couple of seasons. I hope we'll start to rotate Carragher a bit and not just be an automatic starter to let Kelly get comfortable.... Like you said, that's very unlikely, and who knows? He could be the hoofing Maldini?