Topic: UFC/MMA thread

[bobadicious]

My little lad won the British yesterday at the Skydome arena in Coventry

Wow excellent. How old is he? Trying to get my 6 year old into it but hes not at all interested lol.

[the 92A]

Wow excellent. How old is he? Trying to get my 6 year old into it but hes not at all interested lol.

My lad who's grown up now was talented at Judo, had fantastic balance speed and gymnastic skill and was told he could go as far as he wanted but didn't see the point of it, he agreed with me to do it for another year and see if he still felt the same then he could do something else, he ended up giving up a sport I knew he could be top draw in but if his heart is not in it you can't do anything to coach that. let him enjoy what he likes.

[7777]

That's it mate, just as long as they enjoy it or it's not worth your time or theirs. It's a big commitment and my daughter trains at Liverpool trampolining 5 times a week too! We (and grandparents) are essentially taxis!

He is 7. This was only supposed to be a bit of fun / self defence on his Friday night off! He trains 3 nights a week at City of Manchester gymnastics 5-9pm and a Saturday 1-5 so basically lives in the gym but needs to as he has energy for days! The strength has really helped him as a solid base for Jiu-jitsu

[Samie]

Conor McGregor signs contract to fight Floyd Mayweather http://cnn.it/2quVzls

Floyd has yet to sign.

[Something Worse]

Conor McGregor signs contract to fight Floyd Mayweather http://cnn.it/2quVzls

Floyd has yet to sign.

That's a long way from meaning anything. Can't help thinking it's all just to keep Conor's name out there while he's off.

[realtarragona]

Wouldn't surprise me if it's the other way around

[Something Worse]

Wouldn't surprise me if it's the other way around

I don't think Floyd has any reason to stay in the public eye.

[7777]

Bellator just started for anyone interested. Rory Macdonald vs Paul Daley

Spike channel 160 on Sky

[Red_Irishman]

Such an easy win for McDonald. Daley complaining that he didn't fight properly afterwards as Rory just took him down. Daley had nothing on the ground for him so wouldn't he take him down. Stupid complaints them.

[realtarragona]

I don't think Floyd has any reason to stay in the public eye.

Course he does. Is there a bigger narcissist? Plus there's Mayweather Promotions of course.

Soon find out though. Let's see if the fight happens.

[Something Worse]

Course he does. Is there a bigger narcissist? Plus there's Mayweather Promotions of course.

Soon find out though. Let's see if the fight happens.

And you think that's more likely than Conor working this whole thing in order to keep his name out there while he takes six months off for his son? I doubt it. Mayweather is a smart businessman and a good promoter, but he's also made more money than Conor ever will. At the time it happened, his pay for Pacquaio fight was more than every UFC fighter had ever made, combined. He doesn't need this dog and pony show but I'm sure he won't pass up the free publicity.

[realtarragona]

Yeah, I do. 6-9 months or however long he's out for is nothing really. The year between Holloway and Brandao didn't affect his popularity much.

Don't get me wrong I think they both benefit from it but in terms of whether it actually happened, Id say that's down to how serious Mayweather is. McGregor wouldn't be backing out, the fight is win-win for him. Makes more money than he's ever done before and everyone expects him to lose anyway.

[Something Worse]

Yeah, I do. 6-9 months or however long he's out for is nothing really. The year between Holloway and Brandao didn't affect his popularity much.

Don't get me wrong I think they both benefit from it but in terms of whether it actually happened, Id say that's down to how serious Mayweather is. McGregor wouldn't be backing out, the fight is win-win for him. Makes more money than he's ever done before and everyone expects him to lose anyway.

I think it'll fall through with both men blaming the other. Then the next day McGregor announces his UFC return date and opponent.

What's more likely though? McGregor defends a belt or McGregor fights Floyd?

[RJ320]

Lost all interest for McGregor v Mayweather now, especially after seeing Conor spar against boxers. Pacquiao has twice the handspeed that McGregor does and couldn't get close to Mayweather.

[7777]

Lost all interest for McGregor v Mayweather now, especially after seeing Conor spar against boxers. Pacquiao has twice the handspeed that McGregor does and couldn't get close to Mayweather.

Who has McGregor sparred against?

Dillishaw sparred with Lomachenko recently and was toyed with. The Diaz brothers spar with Ward and there are probably others

I think McGregor will do better than some boxers Floyd has faced. He has good hands and is accurate but at the end of the day, Floyd is Floyd

[RJ320]

Who has McGregor sparred against?

Dillishaw sparred with Lomachenko recently and was toyed with. The Diaz brothers spar with Ward and there are probably others

I think McGregor will do better than some boxers Floyd has faced. He has good hands and is accurate but at the end of the day, Floyd is Floyd

Chris Van Heerden, he looked so slow and lethargic in that video. He'll probably do better than the likes of Robert Guerrero or Canelo but that's it, nothing more.

To be fair, Lomachenko would toy with most fighters, he's a beast.

[Something Worse]

Chris Van Heerden, he looked so slow and lethargic in that video. He'll probably do better than the likes of Robert Guerrero or Canelo but that's it, nothing more.

To be fair, Lomachenko would toy with most fighters, he's a beast.

You think Conor will do better against Floyd than Canelo did?

[RJ320]

You think Conor will do better against Floyd than Canelo did?

Not better but I think he'll show more aggression than Canelo did.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Cody out of the fight against Dilashaw due to back injury, Dilashaw will drop down to 125 in August to fight Mighty Mouse

[realtarragona]

Shame. Was really looking forward to that fight...

BUT if TJ is fine making that weight then that should be a great fight.

[BER]

Cody out of the fight against Dilashaw due to back injury, Dilashaw will drop down to 125 in August to fight Mighty Mouse

MM isn't having it though, prefers to fight Ray Borg.

Romero/Whittaker for the Interim is official, 213. Don't think a division has ever been improved this much by it's champion being injured.

[Broad Spectrum]

Gustafsson with a seriously impressive win there. Looked to me he took it easy in the 4th, but finished it in the 5th after Teixeira caught him with two hooks. Disgusting uppercuts all fight.

[Broad Spectrum]

Volkan Oezdemir gets his wish: UFC 214 fight with Jimi Manuwa

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Holloway to beat Aldo imo

[Red_Irishman]

Great stuff from Max. Lost my arse but fuck it, delighted for him.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Said he would beat Aldo ever since they made the fight

[ggcc14]

Aldo fight was great, Max took some big shots on his way to victory.

[stevieG786]

Aldo looked great in the first two rounds, had Holloway retreating and second guessing, no idea why he didn't throw his best weapon, where the fuck was his leg kicks?! Pathetic game plan

[Chakan]

Great display by Max, Aldo was good in the beginning but he really should have been kicking from the off, especially against Max who doesn't check leg kicks at all.

[arthur sarnoff]

My little lad won the British yesterday at the Skydome arena in Coventry

Congrats to him mate.  That's an awesome achievement.

[7777]

Congrats to him mate.  That's an awesome achievement.

Cheers mate

[hulksagoodboy]

Aldo had bigger bursts of damage in the first two rounds but Max was peppering him and as soon as he taunted at the end of the second you could see his tank was still there and he was in his groove, Aldo started looking more tired. The reason for not throwing the kicks was because of how long Max made his stance, he was daring him to throw it, knowing he'd catch a hand for it.

Happy he won to be honest, Max doesn't fuck about and he'll take on anyone and everyone. Long may he reign.

Think Aldo moves up to lightweight now.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

Aldo had bigger bursts of damage in the first two rounds but Max was peppering him and as soon as he taunted at the end of the second you could see his tank was still there and he was in his groove, Aldo started looking more tired. The reason for not throwing the kicks was because of how long Max made his stance, he was daring him to throw it, knowing he'd catch a hand for it.

Happy he won to be honest, Max doesn't fuck about and he'll take on anyone and everyone. Long may he reign.

Think Aldo moves up to lightweight now.

He's not going to get much success at lightweight.

[Chakan]

Aldo had bigger bursts of damage in the first two rounds but Max was peppering him and as soon as he taunted at the end of the second you could see his tank was still there and he was in his groove, Aldo started looking more tired. The reason for not throwing the kicks was because of how long Max made his stance, he was daring him to throw it, knowing he'd catch a hand for it.

Happy he won to be honest, Max doesn't fuck about and he'll take on anyone and everyone. Long may he reign.

Think Aldo moves up to lightweight now.

Don't buy the stance bit, every opponent up until Aldo had lots of success landing leg kicks against Max, Aldo has some of the meanest kicks in the game. Max was close enough to Aldo to land them, while Max is the taller guy he wasn't fighting like it in the first 2 rounds and Aldo managed to tag him a few times with punches, could have absolutely landed a few leg kicks.

Good on Max for the win though, after the 2nd round it was clear Aldo wasn't getting the better of him and gassed.

Don't think Aldo will move up, think he'll retire. I hope Frankie gets a crack at Max, I think that will be a fantastic match.

[Chakan]

Mighty Mouse not happy.

Demetrious Johnson has had enough.

On the cusp of making history, the UFC flyweight champion, who is one title defense away from becoming the most successful champion in UFC history, has provided MMAFighting.com with an exclusive statement about his current relationship with the UFC.

Over the past month, the UFC has attempted to book Johnson in a title fight versus bantamweight contender TJ Dillashaw, however, Johnson has resisted that idea.

In the statement, which you can read in its entirety below, Johnson explains why and lays out, in great detail, other issues he’s had with UFC management as of late. He also responds to UFC president Dana White, who recently said it was “insanity” that Johnson was in favor of fighting top flyweight contender Ray Borg over Dillashaw.

Below is Johnson’s full response, and it’s unlike anything you’ve ever read from one of the best fighters in the history of mixed martial arts:

    For years I have been a company man and kept quiet, accepting fights, doing as they asked, and always remaining humble and grateful for the opportunities provided to me through mixed martial arts. This is how I was raised through the sport. Unfortunately, UFC’s mistreatment and bullying has finally forced me to speak out. I’ve decided to speak out now as I feel like my values and character as a person and a fighter are being tarnished by an organization I’ve done nothing but sweat and bleed for over the last seven years of my life. If it takes me speaking up and encouraging other fighters to ban together to start getting fair treatment, then so be it.

    UFC Matchmaker Mick Maynard called and offered the fight vs. Ray Borg. I thought [Sergio] Pettis was a more marketable name and on a longer winning streak. Mick went back to Dana, then came back and told us that I had no choice, it was going to be Ray Borg, not ettis, and there were no other options. That was the command from Dana and company. This would mean that my only chance at PPV points at flyweight was vs. Ray Borg. I said OK, but it’s not fair to make that my only chance at PPB points, when Cody Garbrandt is saying he wants to come down and fight me at flyweight, which was the fight I wanted. We told Mick that to be fair we would take the fight, but [we] want PPV points for future fights at flyweight. Mick agreed and said it was fair and didn’t see any problem with that situation. Mick spoke to Dana and [UFC matchmaker] Sean Shelby, who then told him to deny giving me any future PPV points for all of my future flyweight fights. Further, I still had to fight Ray Borg and they were giving me no other choice. I accepted the fight with Ray and decided to deal with the unfair situation and despicable treatment by Dana and Sean after I succeed in breaking the consecutive title fight defense record in my next fight vs. Borg. Mick thanked me for accepting the fight, knowing that I was being screwed over and mistreated by Dana and Sean.

    I wanted a reason for not being allowed any future PPV points. Sean Shelby called and told us how smaller fighters don’t sell, that UFC can’t make stars of anyone, and that a fight between Cody and I wouldn’t be a sellable fight. We disagreed. I think a fight between Cody and I would be popular if it was even given a small serving of the marketing efforts put into other big fights.

    UFC has failed to market and promote me appropriately. Prior to my last fight, where I tied the record for the most consecutive successful title defenses, we waited to re-post UFC’s social media posts about me from their Facebook page. There weren't any posts until a few days into fight week, then, there were a total of two posts. In comparison to others who they promote across their social media platforms, they failed to do their job in promoting me and that monumental event. In my recent conversations, Sean nd Dana have confirmed UFC’s lack of desire to put any effort into promoting us.

    In addition to the above, I want to address the lack of marketing and promotion of the flyweight division, even though Dana will claim otherwise. I would challenge that the UFC doesn’t even market the division. It’s been three years since the UFC launched three new divisions in two years (2012 to 2014) where they focused most of their marketing efforts to grow female mixed martial arts, which I understand. But, we are now three years post-launch, and the company continues to do the bare minimum in marketing the division well past the launch of these other divisions. As a fighter, I pay very close attention to the amount of marketing that goes into and around my fights and I can tell you hat you’d be hard pressed to find much that has been done to promote me outside of ‘TUF 24,’ which was minimal in comparison to other fights, fighters and shows. With me, the UFC chooses not to market the best fighter in the world and arguably the greatest fighter of all time. I can’t think of any other sports organization in the world that has the best player in the sport where the league, or the organization, doesn’t market that player to their loyal fan base to sell more of their product. Look at my track record for showing up to fights. Look at my track record of finishing fights. Look at my track record of getting fight night bonuses. Ask yourself if you think that if the UFC decided to truly put marketing dollars behind me that they couldn’t sell me or my fights.

    Completely unrelated and after the accepted fight vs. Ray Borg, Cody Garbradt injured his back and TJ Dillashaw said he wanted to fight me. Dana told me he wanted me to fight TJ, which I disagreed with for multiple reasons. First, TJ has never fought at flyweight and is unlikely to make the weight, which would then eliminate the possibility of breaking the title defense record. Second, they have already told me that a fight between Cody and I wouldn’t be sellable, so fighting TJ would have no monetary upside. Third, TJ is not a flyweight or a current champion in another weight class and was KO’ed by the flyweight whom I beat twice already. Last, Ray Borg and I already agreed to the fight, which UFC tyrannically demanded, while denying me any future PPV points.

    After telling Dana my reasons, Dana angrily told me that I am fighting TJ, once again, with no other option or say in my career, and against the plans we had previously laid out. He went on further to say that if I didn’t take the fight against TJ, and drop Borg as the opponent, he would get rid of the entire flyweight division. He said, This is for TJ and I’m taking away TJ’s opportunity. That fact that he feels that what I should do in my career is for TJ, tells where his priority lies.

    Sorry Dana, my career is about Demetrious Johnson and my goals of fighting the best current flyweights, breaking the record of title defenses, going after the bantamweight champion after I have broken the record, and making money for my family. My career is not about doing for Dana’s buddy, who is neither a bantamweight champion or flyweight contender. We ended by disagreeing and left it there. The next day, Dana went to the media and announced that I was fighting TJ Dillashaw, in an obvious attempt to bully me in the media and tarnish my reputation. I posted a short statement letting people know that I had not agreed to the TJ fight, but had already agreed to fight Ray Borg, as demanded by UFC.

    Dana put up an interview stating that it was “insane” that I didn’t want to fight TJ, that “he makes the matches and that is the match he is making,” and, “You tell me why DJ doesn’t want to fight TJ,” trying to make it as though I am scared or ducking TJ Dillashaw.

    Mick spoke to me to try to change the offer from Ray to TJ. I told Mick that I thought TJ should fight once in the division first, prove he can make the weight and get a win at that weight, then fight me if I wasn’t already busy with Cody. Mick agreed that it made the most sense.

    Later, Mick called again as mandated by Dana, to try to make the fight with TJ and drop Ray. We told him that we didn’t think TJ would make the weight and the fight would be off since it would no longer be a title fight without TJ making weight. Mick said they guaranteed that TJ would make weight. We told him that since it was guaranteed by TJ and UFC was demanding and putting me in a bad circumstance, then it is fair that if TJ didn’t make weight, the fight would be off and I would still get my guarantee + TJ’s guaranteed pay. Mick said that Ray would be on the card and he could fill in if TJ didn’t make weight. We said, oh, then which one do I train for? I thought TJ guaranteed he was making weight. Is it a world championship with the #1 pound-for-pound fighter on earth, or an amateur tournament where I don’t know who I’m fighting until I get there. Obviously there was no guarantee and they just wanted to push me to do something that they knew wasn’t a good choice for my career. The “guarantees” that they made had nothing to back them up and they were unwilling to give a real guarantee to compensate me for all the damage I put on my body preparing for a fight that may not happen. The fact that they said Ray will be a backup shows the lack of respect they have for what we go through in preparing for a fight at this level.

    Mick went back to Dana and Sean, then came back and told us that they don’t agree with my request and I have to fight TJ with no guarantee to make weight or financial incentive if he doesn’t make weight. This is typical of the unfulfilled promises and bullying that has gone on through my UFC career.

    In summary:

    I agreed to their tyrannical demand to fight Ray Borg and Ray also agreed.

    UFC has refused to give me PPV points on any future flyweight bouts, and has never given me any PPV points on previous bouts. My request was fair and the matchmaker in charge of the flyweight and bantamweight division agreed.

    I gave UFC fair conditions to change the fight to TJ Dillashaw and they refused.

    Dana and Sean have told me that they have no interest in marketing me or the smaller divisions, so when they say that I will make PPV money vs. Dillashaw, they leave out the fact that I have to hit certain numbers of buys, which will not be hit if they fail in marketing me like they have in my previous fights.

    If TJ doesn’t make weight, I can’t break the record for the most consecutive title defenses and they have denied paying me in that circumstance.

    Dana has made an effort to bully me in the media as well as in private, in order to get what he wants, even though it is not what is best for me or the sport.

    If Dana says this will be a big PPV fight for me, and that they will promote it properly, then he can pay for it up front and explain to Ray Borg why he is being taken out of the fight that the UFC matchmaker in charge of the division put him in. Otherwise, it is just another lie and attempt to bully me to do something that Dana wants, but is not the right thing to do for the sport or my career.

    UFC’s track record in making an effort to promote my fights, and Dana’s claim that this is a big chance for PPV dollars for me tells a different story than what Dana is stating to the public

[Something Worse]

Good for him, I really hope that MMA Ali act passes.

[7777]

Fair fucking play to DJ but it only goes one way from here on in 

[Skagen]

They did market him as the #1 p4p in the world ad hoping that the world would give a fuck about him. The reality is, it's hard for the average fight fan to care about a borderline midget.

[Doc Red]

Good for him, I really hope that MMA Ali act passes.

Yup.

Fair fucking play to DJ but it only goes one way from here on in 

And yup.
If he was more of a popular fighter amongst the masses, he might have had a chance, but sadly his division will seemingly always be undervalued, and unless a rivalry blossoms out of nowhere, it's not going to change any time soon.

[Trev20]

Anyone watch last night? - some decent finishes in the fights.

Derrick Lewis saying that was his last fight though...came completely out the blue.