Topic: The Results Comparison 2005/06

[reeop]

I have this thread as my RAWK bookmark in favourites so needless to say I am very grateful for all the contributers. I look forward to a similiar thread next season although there will hardly be room for any improvement then.

[JonnyCigarettes®]

I've read this after every game. Great thread.

Well done, HH.

[Carra'sPoundCoin]

Fantastic thread, absolutely love looking at it.

Massive appreciation to everyone who contributed towards it.

I'd like to echo those sentiments.

[jackh]

we have a hell of a task on next season to better on this years performance - will look forward to tracking our progress in a new result comparison thread next year though.

gaining those lost points againts chelsea and united has to be the top priority

[Trell]

I only hope i am half as happy to read next seasons thread as i have been reading this one.

Hope this thread becomes a tradition on RAWK.

[bradigor]

this thread has been fantastic, Well played Mark for starting it. That is echoed to all who have contributed.

Hope the club have something similar, because it would be a great way to boost confidence and set us up for next season.

[-HH-]

I only hope i am half as happy to read next seasons thread as i have been reading this one.

Hope this thread becomes a tradition on RAWK.

I'll certainly be doing the same next year, and I'm hoping Chris and JP-65 will do the same updates they have on this thread, along with others chipping in as they have done. Once the fixtures come out, the new thread will be up.

Cheers to all who helped with this, and hears to a 15 points further improvement next season.

[mulfella]

Next year do it for all teams.......substitute the three up for the three down....

Great stuff people.

[Veinticinco de Mayo]

Excellent thread folks, it provided a welcome sense of perspective in the early weeks of the season and has been consistently interesting since.

Now that the season is over and the game-on-game season comparison is effectively closed I thought that it was probably a good time to return to my season-on-season comparison and see how this season compares with recent history.

I’ve graphed our performance against that of the Champions for every season since 3 points were adopted for a win in 1982 (sorry stats fans but to go any further back involves too much hard work). During this period the number of games played in the top flight has fluctuated so I’ve used points-per-game as the basis of the graph rather than the final points tally.

The black trace shows the performance of the Champions in each season – and is a subject that I’ll probably come back to in the summer once I’ve done a bit more number crunching in Excel.

The yellow trace shows the performance of LFC over the same period; from the heady days of the 80’s to the precipitous collapses which saw the end of Souness, Evans and Houllier.

This season’s tally is extrapolated back across the years as the red line.  This immediately shows the magnitude of this season’s achievement. Of the 18 years upto 2000 this tally would have made the side Champions on 15 occasions. Indeed they would have out-pointed all our great sides of the 80’s apart from the great Barnes/Beardsley side of 1988.

So should we be overjoyed with achievement or perhaps a little aggrieved that fate has denied us #19 so cruelly?  Well yes - and no.  The counter side of the argument is that our tally would have only made us Champions on only one occasion since 2000. Indeed we were closer to the title in 1997 and 2002 the high-water marks of Evans and Houllier regimes respectively.

The challenge now for Rafa is for this not to be his high-water mark but the base camp for a push to the summit next season. The stats would tend to suggest that if we are to make that summit then we will need at least 2.4 ppg, or about 92 points. So can we improve again? Can next season’s comparison finish up showing Liverpool (+10)?  Only if  we start to beat the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal.

[mercury]

A big clap to all contributors to this excellent RAWK thread!  No need for a big hunch  that this would become a regular RAWK feature 

Congratulations to the team for making 82 points!  Very proud of the quantum leap.  Let's take the next step up! 

[lurker]

Only if  we start to beat the likes of Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal.

To be honest, I think once ourselves, United and Arsenal can take points off Chelsea next season, their points tally will be dragged down into the 80's and then it's all to play for.

The difference this season was them beating us twice, beating Arsenal twice and beating United at the business end of  the season to knock them out.

[Veinticinco de Mayo]

Yep.  That is the key.  Leaving Arsenal out of the equation as they were not really in the race this season, if we managed to replace our results with Man U and Chelsea with draws then the final table would have looked like this:

Chelsea 87
Liverpool 85
Man Utd 81

Win one or two and we're cooking...

[Dread Breath]

Great thread. Great season.

What an incredible season for us....we played a phenomenal amount of matches, and I think if we had of played in a few less games at the start of the season we would have got a lot closer to Chelsea than what we did.

The bronze medal is a huge improvement for us, lets hope we get the gold next weekend against the Hammers and bring home some silverware to cap off an Olympic season.

[Raul!]

May I say that as a barometer of our performance this season and a safe haven for some sensible conversation, this thread has been excellent. 

Many thanks to all the regular posters: HH (no, you are not getting those silly lines next to your name), JP-65, Anthony & Co.

As the man above said.

May try and find some interesting angle to contribute on myself for next season.

[-HH-]

As the man above said.

You shouldn't listen to him, he's a pointless little man who made fun of my -'s.

[Raul!]

You shouldn't listen to him, he's a pointless little man who made fun of my -'s.

O let me wipe your tears you 'dashing' young man.

[-HH-]

O let me wipe your tears you 'dashing' young man.

Oh fuck off, what's with the full stop anyway, think it makes you hard do ya? Eh? Eh?

[GaryM]

Thanks Mark and all those who contributed to this thread.  I've been checking regularly throughout the season.  Great job.

[Raul!]

Oh fuck off, what's with the full stop anyway, think it makes you hard do ya? Eh? Eh?

I have petioned for it's removal but unfortunately "raul" the fullstopless was already taken by some bugger who has 0 posts. 

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=85946.0

[JP-65]

I'll certainly be doing the same next year, and I'm hoping Chris and JP-65 will do the same updates they have on this thread, along with others chipping in as they have done. Once the fixtures come out, the new thread will be up.

Mark,
My data base is ready for next season.....hope everyone has an enjoyable summer!

[-HH-]

Mark,
My data base is ready for next season.....hope everyone has an enjoyable summer!

Nice swan. See you then

[Dave D]

This was a great thread, especially reading back at some of the posts around the time of the chelsea defeat at home and fulham away. Some people bottled it and there were plenty of knee jerks. But even in the dark days this thread still showed we were improving.

Good work lads.

[Rox]

I have petioned for it's removal but unfortunately "raul" the fullstopless was already taken by some bugger who has 0 posts. 

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=85946.0

I thought you were making a statement "Raul."

No room for ambiguity - 'Raul.' It's a fact. 

[Raul!]

I thought you were making a statement "Raul."

No room for ambiguity - 'Raul.' It's a fact. 

It's a fact that is absolutely untrue as well.