Author Topic: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT  (Read 16963 times)

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There's not a lot to say about this fixture that hasn't been written previously. However I'm not sure there's been a point in the last 30-35 years where we've had this much of an advantage in terms of squad strength and overall standing of the clubs. That doesn't mean we can expect an easy game, despite some of our recent results against them and our clearly superior playing squad, you always have to be ready to battle to win this one.


That's what we've done recently against them though, we've won the battle early, we've scored early and taken away any spirit they may have had. If we can repeat that this Sunday we've got a very good chance of another enjoyable scoreline. If we allow them to get into their gameplan though and don't win that battle this could turn into the type of game we saw against Fulham.


Something that is slightly new - this will be our biggest attendance since a game with Leicester City in 1973 with around 57,000 expected as the new Anfield Upper stand opens for the first time. Looking forward to seeing the extra noise we can generate.


The teams are hard to predict due to injuries on both sides. However at the moment they seem in worse shape than us, due to our strength in depth. Matip's out for the season it seems which is a massive shame, Mac Allister sounds unlikely for this with a strange injury involving the stud slicing through to the knee bone!? We've other long term issues leaving us without Robertson, Thiago, Bajcetic & Jota (although it sounds like he may not be far off). That still leaves us with the ability to field a strong team.

I'm not sure what a strong team is for them. Bruno Fernandes their captain is suspended, didn't fancy it it seems. Their injury list possibly includes Rashford, Martial, Shaw & Maguire. Lindelof, Mount & Eriksen are other possibles. Casemiro & Martinez are definitely out. There may be others, as I've seen headlines about up to 13 missing.


I don't know how much the fact we have 3 games in 6 days will play in the line up. Two big games follow quickly afterwards, we'll need to be strong in all of them. Though you would expect if any of the line ups were to be slightly weaker it would be vs West Ham.

One thing that we will have to improve is our overall level across 90 mins. It's hard to complain about much given we're top, but we've gained a lot of points from losing positions and it's hard to keep up that kind of resilience.
We are going to need to start playing better to win the games we have ahead of us, in ways that don't expend as much energy or can be managed if we build a lead early.
We definitely have the potential to play much better, we've already shown that at times. But we are still in our infancy as a team, meaning we're also vulnerable and inconsistent at times, and we don't look as tight and defensively sound as we should.

Strange results can happen when a team is still learning. So, although on paper I certainly fancy us for 3 wins - thats a lot easier said than done.

But for now we focus on United, and while a strange result is possible if we don’t apply ourselves correctly, I think we play our strongest available team and we’ll prove too good for them by 2-0 or 3-0.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2023, 12:38:57 pm »
We are not, and this sounds odd when top of the league, playing well, so any predictions of a huge victory, for me, are a bit naive.

I fancy us to beat anyone at home of course, but I'm not expecting the cricket score some have been suggesting.

Line up something like

                 AB1

TAA   Konate   VVD   Tsimikas

                Endo

  Szoboszlai          Jones or Grav


     Salah       Nunez     Diaz

             

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2023, 12:42:45 pm »
Alisson
Trent   Konate   VVD   Tsimikas
Szoboszlai   Gravenberch
Gakpo
Salah   Nunez   Diaz

Blow them out the fucking water again. These do not fucking want it, I think you can tell by some of their players reactions recently, they've just been battered at home by Bournemouth and couldn't be bothered getting it up for Bayern Munich on a Champions League night. Of course I don't think it's another 7-0 game, but I think we can be comfortable, it's a game we usually seem to turn up for, Salah loves playing against them and Gakpo had his best game for us against them in March. I don't think they're well equipped for just defending either like a bottom half side might. They tried it in spells last season here and look how it went. Any win will do but I think there is a few goals in it for Liverpool.

I seriously think we can win every game at home. I'm not sure it's ever even been done in the history of English top flight football but if we can it'd do so much heavy lifting if we want to win the title. Got to get at least 50 points at home, like. Away form will end up being better than last season's but it has to be quite a difference points wise. Also, even if we can't win the league due to bad away form at least it looks like Anfield games will carry us to a comfortable top 3 finish.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2023, 12:44:48 pm »
Let's just not be arrogant and take the result for granted. United are way past the point where pretending a player is injured, only for him to be miraculously healed and ready to start on the day, will have any sort of impact on our team.

Last time they had a decent first 45 minutes, until we sucker punched them with goals either side of half time. The subsequent collapse was glorious. I expect a similar approach this time - let them huff and puff and blow themselves out, then relentlessly grind them out of the game.

Any win will do, and no more injuries, please!
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2023, 12:45:24 pm »
As long as our attitude is spot on, our quality should do the rest.

3-0.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2023, 01:05:40 pm »
As long as our attitude is spot on, our quality should do the rest.

3-0.

Attitude not be an issue they dont get much bigger than this around the world plus the fans not let our lads slack off.

Any win will do for me.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2023, 01:08:27 pm »
Not sure who we play in midfield

Could Trent play as the 6 and play Gomez RB?
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2023, 01:13:44 pm »
Just get the win, not particularly bothered about humiliating a side who humiliate themselves on a weekly basis given the hectic fixture list. Not that I’d object if we did.

With last year in their minds and the terrible time they’re having they’ll almost certainly set up not to get hammered first and foremost. We’ve not been scintillating recently and low block teams are always a pain to deal with. Hopefully Onana’s on his game to let a few simple shots in.

No Bruno giving the ball away constantly, throwing in the towel and sulking probably helps them in this fixture (he’s never done anything at Anfield anyway, aside from lose, have tantrums and barge into linesmen). Logic suggests we’ll win, but they are the jammiest team in football and routinely get results their performances don’t merit.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2023, 01:19:24 pm »
Feels like the game at OT when Moyes was in charge. I cannot see anything other than a convincing LFC win.
Looking forward to it immensely  :D

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2023, 01:19:27 pm »
I've heard so many people say "Oh it won't be as easy as everyone is saying" over the last week or so that I'm starting to think we've been modest enough to earn a repeat of their last few trips to Anfield.

It's not tempting fate to say they're not very good. As well as that, they're suffering with quite a few injuries and suspensions atm.

Get the first goal and I think they'll crumble.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2023, 01:19:38 pm »
Doesn't seem that long ago these games left me sick. Still hate playing them but it is mixed up with confidence that we should see them off now.

Not sure what our midfield will look like but I have felt we have needed more from the left side in attack for a while. Gravenberch offers more creativity but not the control and defensive awareness Jones usually does. Tsmikas will be the only player offering width so I think he would better operate linking with Jones down that side.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2023, 01:23:03 pm »
They're bad but we've played down to the level of worse teams recently and given them a chance. Would be nice to speak.it back up and get a bit of a comfortable win ahead of the Arsenal game. A couple early goals and they're not coming back, look like they've given up on the manager and seemed to barley try in their must win game midweek

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2023, 01:23:43 pm »
Everyone saying we will win - which we should, but no complacency please. Also United probably have nothing to lose, no one is expecting them to win.

I absolutely hate playing them. Even the 7-0 is short lived as for the most part I just feel relief that we won. I am surrounded by manc supporters and will be on xmas day. Please just win (smashing them would be nice) but just win.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2023, 01:30:44 pm »
They are going to play shithouse football from the start. Proper Stoke levels of shithouse football.

The win is huge. I would like to embarrass them again but I won't mind a 2-1 or 1-0 win

We need to be professional and ready. Ali, Salah, VVD and Trent being left out last night was the intent.

As for United, they are not on our level or radar. That's how they need to be treated.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2023, 01:31:12 pm »
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2023, 01:32:41 pm »
Would be great to get an early goal to have them drop their heads as soon as possible.

I can't see us repeating last season but they are definitely there for the taking, and we have many things in our favour.

My biggest concern is them kicking the shit out of our players.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2023, 01:34:45 pm »
I just really love the way we did it last time.

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Not taking the piss. But seriously, is it possible for us to win this 8-0 this time?

I mean, with our current "strength" and performance.

It's there to remind our lads who they're playing for and to remind the opposition who they're playing against!

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2023, 01:43:32 pm »
Thanks twoturtleduvvas, that was a really good read.  It feels a bit surreal that this will be our highest attendance for 50 years and that it's still being topped by a game against Leicester City of all teams.  When you think of all the massive games we've hosted at Anfield since but always been constrained by capacity.

I thought Man U resembled a football team against Bayern and similarly when they beat Chelsea.  Both of those were home games for them though and against teams that were cruising and chaotic respectively.  Amongst those games they were completely outplayed by Newcastle and Bournemouth.

They're undoubtedly weakened by injuries but I think we're all mourning the absences of Maguire and Fernandes as both are relentlessly dreadful against us.

I'd imagine Klopp will be trying to find that balance between blitzing them and controlling the game, as much so as not to ignite the place too much and trigger one of theirs into a petulant injury-causing tackle.  For what it's worth I think we'll be doing them a favour with slow build-up play and a wealth of possession around their penalty area but a professional win is still three points even if it's less exciting than sucking them into an open contest.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2023, 01:44:20 pm »


People are acting like we are scoring 4-5 goals a game regularly this year. We aren't.

A few folks have acknowledged that our performances the last month have been average. Just because United have also been iffy - doesn't mean that they won't try to put in a shift on Sunday and will roll over.

At this point - just win please.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2023, 01:45:34 pm »
Thanks OP...
You mentioned winning the battle early is key and i agree 100%

If we can get ahead early and try and get up to a good lead then we can afford to take players off which would be the ideal situation, with Nunez scoring and no further injuries.

I'll take 3 points any way though to set us up for a big week.
I am sure we will see our strongest or should i say same lineup for this game and the one vs Arsenal with rotation midweek
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2023, 01:48:24 pm »
As long as we go at them and illustrate just how much better we are than them, I don't care about the socreline so long as we win. Another drubbing would obviously be wonderful, but as much as we've been spoiled lately we can't count on that.

Normally I go into this game with a sense of trepidation, so it's weird to feel so confident against these. But they have produced nothing over the last few years to suggest they've got the bollocks for anything more than a scrappy/flukey win at most. They're as likely to crumble as they are to raise their game. We are miles better and everyone knows it.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2023, 01:48:36 pm »
Nothing on injuries in the press conference?
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2023, 01:51:17 pm »
‘I don’t understand it' - Klopp on Man Utd form

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Jurgen Klopp on what can be expected from the Manchester United game, after the 7-0 win last season: “I never like when the headlines about United are not great before we play because then it is the game where they can put everything right.

"I don’t follow United closely enough to know what’s the problem there. But I saw Erik ten Hag became manager of the month last month, I saw they were the team in form last month. How can it be all wrong? I just don’t understand it.

“The 7-0 we knew on the day was a freakish result that happens once in a life pretty much. If it helps anybody for the next game, it’s the team who lost 7-0 and not the team who won.

"If we just play a football game against the historical rival at home at Anfield, that itself makes it a special game and that’s what I want to see – a special game.”

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2023, 01:51:32 pm »
would like to see a high intensity Anfield performance.
We have done great picking up results but i do think we need a performance to help the confidence levels.
It is strange we are top but many of our players dont seem high on confidence bar Allison,VVD & Trent.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2023, 01:52:36 pm »
The expectation that we batter them worries me a little to be honest. They can hurt you on the break and that’s somewhere we’ve been vulnerable.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2023, 01:54:19 pm »
Rashford and Shaw are fit to play apparently.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2023, 02:00:10 pm »
Would be great to get an early goal to have them drop their heads as soon as possible.

I can't see us repeating last season but they are definitely there for the taking, and we have many things in our favour.

My biggest concern is them kicking the shit out of our players.
yep, this game is essentially on a par with derby games at this point. 

I don't care how we win, 3 points with no injuries is all that counts.

that said, if they come away with a loss, but feeling like they've done well in some fashion,  that might be better than any humiliating scoreline.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2023, 02:00:22 pm »
The expectation that we batter them worries me a little to be honest. They can hurt you on the break and that’s somewhere we’ve been vulnerable.
Just win with a dominant performance like 2-0.
They dont have much in attack bar Rashford who has been awful.
Antony & Hojlund poor only really  have Garnacho who shows any promise. No Fernandes as well.
No excuses its an awful Man Utd team

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2023, 02:13:36 pm »
Rashford and Shaw are fit to play apparently.

Nothing to worry about from our perspective. If they play Shaw at centre half then I just can't not see us scoring a few.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2023, 02:14:36 pm »
No excuses for not winning this, but it won't be by 5, 6 or 7.

I'd take any sort of win whether it's scraping another late victory after going behind or a comfortable 2/3-0. Don't give a fuck, just want 3 points.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2023, 02:24:35 pm »
The expectation that we batter them worries me a little to be honest. They can hurt you on the break and that’s somewhere we’ve been vulnerable.

We have also struggled with early goals as well recently. I certainly don't think it will be a high scoring game. Right now I would settle for a straight forward 2-0. Great opening post duvva.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2023, 02:34:36 pm »
I think we will finally click and put up a big score. These are so so bad. They have nothing about them. No fight no aggression. I would of course take any win. Hopefully all our lads make it off the pitch ok.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2023, 02:34:51 pm »
This won't be a 4, 5, 6 nil as some people are suggesting.

Seven Hag will more than likely set them up for a backs to the wall defensive job, and make life difficult like the blueshite have done.

That being said, we've got a strong defense and you'd expect us to be able to deal with their attack, it's all about our attackers (who havent looked good for a while) turning up on the day.

And I think the extra few thousand supporters, & the game being under the lights will make the atmosphere too intense for United to cope with.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2023, 02:44:38 pm »
would love a stress free 2-0 with nunez scoring twice
would be a perfect start to christmas week
midfield 3 still the conundrum with Alex missing
am going with Dom, jones, and endo


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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2023, 02:50:44 pm »
The concern for this game is that their squad is in such a bad state they'll set up how they should and park the bus / hit us on the counter
They've been playing 2 AMs all season but probably won't on Sunday as they're almost all injured
Think it'll be a grind to be honest ... hopefully we start a progressive player as the DLM.. the way they'll set up Trent or Jones would probably be best there
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2023, 02:53:34 pm »
Thanks for OP Duvva

Win, no matter how, just win. There are only 2 fixtures we all look out for at the beginning of the season. Everton and United at Anfield. I don`t care whether the likes of City and Chelsea think they have some sort of historical sporting rivalry with us. They don`t. It is a false narrative driven by the media. The biggest game for us is always this, irrespective of where the clubs are at. I reckon plenty of united fans would say the same even during their period of dominance under Ferguson. The truth is that we are the two most famous and biggest clubs in the land. End of.

All the evidence suggests a walkover. That isn`t how these games work. We have beaten them at Old Trafford when, at the time, evidence suggested they should have battered us. I think they will miss that snidey twat Fernandes who despite being a snidey twat, is probably their best player. No doubt they will sit back and try and hit us on the break. We need to be careful with that because whatever you think of them and their current form, they do have players that can capitalise on that.

As Duvva referenced, an early goal and I think we will dismantle them. 0-0 at half time and things will get a little tense and the danger levels go up.

All that said, 8-0 to the reds. Ta.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2023, 02:56:51 pm »
The expectation that we batter them worries me a little to be honest.


This, went terribly when everyone expected us to hammer them and we only won 4-0 and 5-0.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2023, 03:00:35 pm »
These are worse than shit and that kind of worries me.
We should win… a nice 2-0 will do me.

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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2023, 03:03:24 pm »
I know I'll be disappointed with anything less than a three goal winning margin, but three points, no injuries and same again against arsenal and the diassapoinyment will vanish.
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Re: MATCH PREVIEW: Liverpool v Man Utd, Anfield Sun 17 Dec KO 4:30 pm GMT
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2023, 03:06:03 pm »
Our own injuries staring to add up in Robertson,  Matip, Thiago  Mac Allister, Bajetic, Jota.

What line up are people expecting?

Allison
Gomez
Konate
VVD
Tsimikas
Trent
Szloboszlai (appalling spelling)
Jones / Elliott
Diaz
Nunez
Salah

????

Some tough calls to make

Who plays right back?

Who plays 6?

Does Gapko start? Midfield or up front?

Does klopp go with the same front 3 as thev7-0 Nunez-Gapko-Salah?

Has Elliott deservedly played his way into the starting line up ahead of Gravenberch and Jones?