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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3600 on: February 11, 2013, 10:01:32 pm »
A reactionary comment. Don't allow a defeat to cloud your judgement

Let's analyse what more we can do in terms of getting bodies in blocking positions in corner positions. The corner is like a American football...it's easier when you have blockers blocking the run of the opponents
Bollocks it's a reactionary comment, I've been saying it for months.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3601 on: February 11, 2013, 10:02:04 pm »
I don't see Agger or Skrtel starting next season. We need better.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3602 on: February 11, 2013, 10:02:12 pm »
Skrtel and Coates need to be dropped finally!
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3603 on: February 11, 2013, 10:02:27 pm »
A reactionary comment. Don't allow a defeat to cloud your judgement

Let's analyse what more we can do in terms of getting bodies in blocking positions in corner positions. The corner is like a American football...it's easier when you have blockers blocking the run of the opponents

He can't mark. That's no good to us as a team. A centreback who can't fucking mark. Wake up you clown
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3604 on: February 11, 2013, 10:03:31 pm »
What has happened to Agger though seriously? I know form is temporary and everything but he's making ridiculously basic errors at the moment

The problem is I don't see 2 of our other 3 'senior' centre backs playing together - all of them have to be on the right side of the 2

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3605 on: February 11, 2013, 10:04:42 pm »
Agger swaggers about with Viking tattoos on his body'! He is spineless and his display this evening against WBA was particularly galling.Each time a team is struggling for a win, who do they want to play? You guessed it, the soft kids from L4 OTH. Gerrad looks absolutely fed up and who can blame him. Clueless without him.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3606 on: February 11, 2013, 10:05:10 pm »
What has happened to the defence in general is my question, too many silly errors by seasoned professionals. Far too many...

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3607 on: February 11, 2013, 10:05:11 pm »
He can't mark. That's no good to us as a team. A centreback who can't fucking mark. Wake up you clown
Calm down please.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3608 on: February 11, 2013, 10:06:19 pm »
What has happened to the defence in general is my question, too many silly errors by seasoned professionals. Far too many...
Defence have been poor all season mate. Luckily for them our 'lack of goals' gave them a breather for a few months.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3609 on: February 11, 2013, 10:06:41 pm »
He can't mark. That's no good to us as a team. A centreback who can't fucking mark. Wake up you clown

Uh? He cant mark?

The second best defender in the league after Kompany last season cant mark?

I read a lot of stuff like this after disappointijg results.

I will put this down to emotional and reactionary commenting

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3610 on: February 11, 2013, 10:07:01 pm »
Calm down please.

Calm down for calling someone a clown? There is much worse on here. Agger and his idea of marking is costing us massively. Ever fuck up is defended.  He need dropping urgently
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3611 on: February 11, 2013, 10:07:01 pm »
Agger is class.

Going through a rough patch but keeping an eye out for your partner is probably taking it's toll.

When someone comes in to partner him,on his level i expect him to be back to his imperious best.

but the way lukaku turned him was embarrassing.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3612 on: February 11, 2013, 10:07:33 pm »
Bring Carroll back and remodel him as a CB. At least he can defend a fucking set piece.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3613 on: February 11, 2013, 10:07:34 pm »
Agger has got away with murder this year while others have laid into skrtel because they never really rated him anyway.

At fault for Arsenals first goal, United first against us and tonight. He needs to buck up his idea.

Carragher right now at 35 is our only defender that can actually defend.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3614 on: February 11, 2013, 10:07:40 pm »
Agger is a fantastic footballer, had a horrid game today.

Everyone has a mere every now and then. Give him a break!
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3615 on: February 11, 2013, 10:07:51 pm »
Uh? He cant mark?

The second best defender in the league after Kompany last season cant mark?

I read a lot of stuff like this after disappointijg results.

I will put this down to emotional and reactionary commenting

Quick, someone tell Skrtel that Agger was our player of the year last year.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3616 on: February 11, 2013, 10:09:09 pm »
Defence have been poor all season mate. Luckily for them our 'lack of goals' gave them a breather for a few months.

Agree with you there, so many sides score such easy goals against us. We're in the top 5 for goals scored yet its the other end which the issue.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3617 on: February 11, 2013, 10:09:31 pm »
Calm down for calling someone a clown?
Yes.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3618 on: February 11, 2013, 10:09:58 pm »
Have a fucking word with yourself Agger.
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3619 on: February 11, 2013, 10:10:38 pm »
Bollocks it's a reactionary comment, I've been saying it for months.

You weren't saying it last season or at the beginning of the season when Dagger was the target for one of the big boys in City.

So please put emotions aside and rethink

We need blockers when defending corner balls. Block the attacking runs. JT and the guys at Chelsea have been doing it for years.

Come on BR please start teaching it to our players. It's an effective tactic. I'd imagine Mourinho brought it ino the EPL. Let's carry it on.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3620 on: February 11, 2013, 10:10:39 pm »
Thinking completely rationally we have to sign two central defenders this summer. Some things can be defended, but a lack of mental fortitude cannot. It has been a far too common occurrence this season for our defenders to switch off. There's no other way to explain the defending put on display, West Brom going forward twice and scoring twice is something that doesn't sit well with me.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3621 on: February 11, 2013, 10:10:43 pm »
Quick, someone tell Skrtel that Agger was our player of the year last year.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3622 on: February 11, 2013, 10:11:08 pm »
Calm down for calling someone a clown? There is much worse on here. Agger and his idea of marking is costing us massively. Ever fuck up is defended.  He need dropping urgently

For who, Skrtel? He comes in makes similar mistakes and then he gets dropped.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3623 on: February 11, 2013, 10:11:24 pm »
Terrible performance from Agger. His marking at the corner was terrible and Lukaku completely sped past him on the floor as well.

Don't want to sound reactionary but he has cost too many goals recently and is badly off form.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3624 on: February 11, 2013, 10:11:38 pm »
Skrtel and Agger were good as recently as last season.

Perhaps its y'know, the coaching?

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3625 on: February 11, 2013, 10:13:18 pm »
You weren't saying it last season or at the beginning of the season when Dagger was the target for one of the big boys in City.

So please put emotions aside and rethink

We need blockers when defending corner balls. Block the attacking runs. JT and the guys at Chelsea have been doing it for years.

Come on BR please start teaching it to our players. It's an effective tactic. I'd imagine Mourinho brought it ino the EPL. Let's carry it on.
Jack Rodwell and Scott Sinclair were Man City targets in the summer.


We don't need fucking blockers, we need defenders to fucking defend. Bread and butter.

Stop making excuses for that abject defensive display.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3626 on: February 11, 2013, 10:13:38 pm »
Why are people saying that Agger got skinned by Lukaku? He didn't. Agger recovered well and put the pressure on that forced the shot to go wide. Lukaku had a running start on him hence the initial outpacing, but Agger caught up despite tracking backwards.
By all means criticise him for the corner but come on, be fair.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3627 on: February 11, 2013, 10:13:53 pm »
Skrtel and Agger were good as recently as last season.

Perhaps its y'know, the coaching?

Well quite.

Painful for Clarke to beat us twice when we should have moved hell and high water to keep him; hell he should have been interviewed for the top job

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3628 on: February 11, 2013, 10:14:41 pm »
Skrtel and Agger were good as recently as last season.

Perhaps its y'know, the coaching?
Of course it is, it's drills in training. Mystifying really.
But that very obvious scenario denies people the chance to froth at the mouth at a succession of individual players, so we can't mention it ;D

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3629 on: February 11, 2013, 10:14:50 pm »
Skrtel and Agger were good as recently as last season.

Perhaps its y'know, the coaching?

What the hell is our corner routine?

Blocking runs, doesn't happen anywhere near as much zonally and it gives the keeper space to dominate his area.

Its always the near post goal with us. John Terry did the same thing to us at stamford bridge.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3630 on: February 11, 2013, 10:15:19 pm »
Why are people saying that Agger got skinned by Lukaku? He didn't. Agger recovered well and put the pressure on that forced the shot to go wide. Lukaku had a running start on him hence the initial outpacing, but Agger caught up despite tracking backwards.
By all means criticise him for the corner but come on, be fair.

Shouldn't Agger have forced him wide? He was goal side and it wasn't a through ball that Lukaku ran onto and was side by side with him? Jockey him and hold your ground?

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3631 on: February 11, 2013, 10:15:23 pm »
Tonight, Lukaku and McAuley.

City, lost Dzeko in the centre.

Arsenal, lost Giroud.

Man United, lost Van Persie.

Last month alone, far too many lapses.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3632 on: February 11, 2013, 10:15:34 pm »
I have said this since Sami left, our centrebacks do not do the basics of defending right, these are tested most in this league. Without basics like marking and heading you are always liable to concede. Agger is shocking at marking and constantly losses his man. That is not good enough .
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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3633 on: February 11, 2013, 10:15:50 pm »
Maybe people are forgetting that defending is a team responsibility. Blockers make things easier.

Anyways, this was a blip.

We need to learn from the mistakes - no finger pointing at individuals - let's learn for St Petersburgh.

The Russians are coming to town -  we will need the defence strong against these. I'd say recall Skrteal and play 3 at the back

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3634 on: February 11, 2013, 10:16:19 pm »
Why are people saying that Agger got skinned by Lukaku? He didn't. Agger recovered well and put the pressure on that forced the shot to go wide. Lukaku had a running start on him hence the initial outpacing, but Agger caught up despite tracking backwards.
By all means criticise him for the corner but come on, be fair.

He got skinned on the goal.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3635 on: February 11, 2013, 10:16:31 pm »
Of course it is, it's drills in training. Mystifying really.
But that very obvious scenario denies people the chance to froth at the mouth at a succession of individual players, so we can't mention it ;D
If you watch the second goal he's actually at fault as well he tries some sort of semi breakdance move and gets caught
out once again he's been at fault a lot this season.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3636 on: February 11, 2013, 10:17:02 pm »
Maybe people are forgetting that defending is a team responsibility. Blockers make things easier.

Anyways, this was a blip.

We need to learn from the mistakes - no finger pointing at individuals - let's learn for St Petersburgh.

The Russians are coming to town -  we will need the defence strong against these. I'd say recall Skrteal and play 3 at the back

It's not a blip though if the same sort of goals are consistently being scored against us.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3637 on: February 11, 2013, 10:17:09 pm »
Why are people saying that Agger got skinned by Lukaku? He didn't. Agger recovered well and put the pressure on that forced the shot to go wide. Lukaku had a running start on him hence the initial outpacing, but Agger caught up despite tracking backwards.
By all means criticise him for the corner but come on, be fair.

He got skinned

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3638 on: February 11, 2013, 10:18:52 pm »
Shouldn't Agger have forced him wide? He was goal side and it wasn't a through ball that Lukaku ran onto and was side by side with him? Jockey him and hold your ground?
I think we're actually talking about different instances...sorry. I wasn't talking about the goal, I had assumed people meant the run at him earlier.

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Re: Daniel Agger and Martin Skrtel Partnership
« Reply #3639 on: February 11, 2013, 10:19:54 pm »
Jack Rodwell and Scott Sinclair were Man City targets in the summer.


We don't need fucking blockers, we need defenders to fucking defend. Bread and butter.

Stop making excuses for that abject defensive display.

I suggest you calm down.

You are emotional afer a bad result, that's understandable but let's not have an over-reaction.

That was not an abject defensive performance. The whole match we limited a top half EPL team to 2 TWO chances only.

The second goal was a result of us chasing strongly and trying to get a goal by overcommitting. The second goal is not a worry

Look at the performance as a whole

Oh and blockers would make preventing their men from getting headed chances from corner balls easier