Topic: New images of stadium design and redevelopment rumours

[LiamG]

havnt had the chance to go to many stadiums in my life what makes a good stadium and what makes a bad stadium ?  is it not all to do with the fans ? i understand with having a running pitch fans are further away so its not as intimidiating but whats wrong with the others?

Read this
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=273456.0

[CraigDS]

dunno how relevant it is to the stadium issue but the club now have a fresh 3 year credit facility agreement in place with RBS.  I'd imagine it doesn't have much to do with the stadium as it's too short for a stadium build, even as a bridging loan.

What amount is this for?

[ttnbd]

no idea, I'd assume it's a renewal of existing facilities but no details were put in the documents to companies house.

[Zeb]

dunno how relevant it is to the stadium issue but the club now have a fresh 3 year credit facility agreement in place with RBS.  I'd imagine it doesn't have much to do with the stadium as it's too short for a stadium build, even as a bridging loan.

Werner mentioned they'd had to put some money in from NESV reserves to hèlp with cashflow. Might be related to that?

[Twelfth Man]

SHITE.

Agree

[redprodigal]

So many threads open, don't know where's best....

New renders from AFL on the original "Parrydome", make of it what you will....

Crap. Where did you get this information?

[MikeD]

Crap. Where did you get this information?

http://www.afl-uk.com/ProjectDetail.aspx?projectID=33

[Barneylfc∗]

It would need replacing in ten years.

I want to see the new refurbished Anfield plans.

Yeah cuz that big long wall didnt last did it?

If those pics are accurate then its shit. Hate fucking spaceship looking stadiums

[redprodigal]

http://www.afl-uk.com/ProjectDetail.aspx?projectID=33

Thanks. And by the way, when I said crap I meant the stadium. I wasn't doubting your word 

Where does it say those plans are new?

[MikeD]

Thanks. And by the way, when I said crap I meant the stadium. I wasn't doubting your word 

Where does it say those plans are new?

It doesn't state they are, but having stalked this forum since A4E days - I have kept copies of all images and plans. 4 of the 5 are recent to the AFL site and weren't around at the time of the second AFL design.

[SMD]

havnt had the chance to go to many stadiums in my life what makes a good stadium and what makes a bad stadium ?  is it not all to do with the fans ? i understand with having a running pitch fans are further away so its not as intimidiating but whats wrong with the others?

Wembley and the Emirates are shit.

[djphal]

looks like the fucking Reebok

[Azi]

Wembley and the Emirates are shit.

surely having shit fans doesnt help

[Anywhichwayicant]

http://www.afl-uk.com/ProjectDetail.aspx?projectID=33

A tad underwhelming.

[SMD]

surely having shit fans doesnt help

Club Wembley was more like an airport lounge than a football ground. The layout means you could be miles away from the pitch but only half way up.

[Coady]

Also John Henry was meeting up with Rick Parry the last time he was over, it may be something and nothing.

[LiamG]

Wembley and the Emirates are shit.

Wembley = Brilliant Venue! Just not a good football ground

[SMD]

Wembley = Brilliant Venue! Just not a good football ground

So, err...

[Peter McGurk]

So, err...

Say what you like about (Sir) Norman Foster - he loves his football.

[SP]

Also John Henry was meeting up with Rick Parry the last time he was over, it may be something and nothing.

So we are buying the Qatari World Cup stadia then?

[keswick]

Would rather have the H&G design built...Atleast that different from all the other 'lookalike' stadiums!!! Thought The Swiss Architects, who designed the Birds nest stadium in Beijing, where designing the new ground?

[Matt S]

Would rather have the H&G design built...Atleast that different from all the other 'lookalike' stadiums!!! Thought The Swiss Architects, who designed the Birds nest stadium in Beijing, where designing the new ground?

Alan F did a great post on why that design was utter shit as a football stadium.

[Gainsbarre]

http://www.afl-uk.com/ProjectDetail.aspx?projectID=33

so fucking average.. ..... and ugly

[Gainsbarre]

Alan F did a great post on why that design was utter shit as a football stadium.

 still better than that toilet bowl

[LiamG]

The inside of the bowl was ok bar a 1 tier kop, Its just the outside that looked gash

[shelovesyou]

still better than that toilet bowl

Well no because its not viable. Although i do agree the Parry Bowl is ugly.

[CraigDS]

still better than that toilet bowl

Tell that to one of the people who ends up sitting in the seats which views only about 50% of the pitch!

[owens_2k]

So what is the probability of this being built?

[CraigDS]

Exactly how it was - slim to none.

[Peter McGurk]

Exactly how it was - slim to none.

Massively over the top, crazily expensive, enormous internal pillars, hopeless as a football ground and designed before the latest issue of the regulations. They start next week.

[Alan_X]

still better than that toilet bowl

Do you like the view from the back of the away stand at St James Park? Some of the seats in the Hicks Bowl are further from the pitch than that. It's a fucking stupid design.

[David H]

Can't we just copy the Dortmund's ground? would love something similar to that.

[No.7 The King]

Do you like the view from the back of the away stand at St James Park? Some of the seats in the Hicks Bowl are further from the pitch than that. It's a fucking stupid design.

The only thing I liked about the Hicks bowl was the concept that the kop was the focal part of the stadium and the design took into account the accoustics of the ground to keep the sound within the stadium.

[Peter McGurk]

...and the design took into account the accoustics of the ground to keep the sound within the stadium.

Of course it did.

[PhilV]

Would rather have the H&G design built...Atleast that different from all the other 'lookalike' stadiums!!! Thought The Swiss Architects, who designed the Birds nest stadium in Beijing, where designing the new ground?

I also read somewhere that NESV had hired those guys to look at designs, probably t'interwebs rumours though

[LiamG]

Can't we just copy the Dortmund's ground? would love something similar to that.

Me too

[Peter McGurk]

Can't we just copy the Dortmund's ground? would love something similar to that.

Wouldn't it though? It's in a different country and they can do things differently. The prices are cheaper and they rely more on commercial deals and TV, so more people can get to the match (and of course they have standing).

If we can stop being fixated by an obscenely expensive brand, new shiny mega stadium, we might just have a chance.

 

[west_london_red]

If we can stop being fixated by an obscenely expensive brand, new shiny mega stadium, we might just have a chance.
 

You mean the expensive brand, new shiny mega stadium that is all the council will allow us to build?

[Peter McGurk]

You mean the expensive brand, new shiny mega stadium that is all the council will allow us to build?

No, I mean the sparkly, sparkly that some fans would only be happy with.

To be fair to council the matter is not quite in their hands. The club can make no application without land owners' permission. And council can't give consent without an application.

[CraigDS]

And the club can't get the land owners permission without the council's help (or lots and lots of money).

Sort of a vicious circle.