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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Coolie High on Today at 12:18:15 pm »
I have expanded on this above.

There’s nothing to expand it’s a crazy post, and quite disrespectful actually. Salah and Mane didn’t grow up in first world economies, the effort willpower and skill level it took for them to make it right to the very top gives me an indication that they would have got there one way or the other regardless. You making it seem as if Klopp is some type of deity who can transform trash to gold, but the same never happened with Emre Can, it never happened with Origi, these players had a good level of natural talent but never emerged into world class players that many would have predicted for them at age 18/19.

Salah and Mane did, so there’s no need to minimalize their hard work and effort and put all at the hands of Klopp, it doesn’t work like that, there story was already half way written before they came here.

Klopp is the best manager in the world but he isn’t a miracle worker, he couldn’t turn a Karius into an Alisson.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by RyanBabel19 on Today at 12:16:00 pm »
I'm amazed so many people are straw manning the shit out of this... imagine quote posting James Pearce and his desperate attempts to cling on to relevance by hyping everything to shit (is there a single lfc journo that actually operates in the clubs best interests?)

Why isn't it possible to think he was out of order yesterday but that losing your rag with someone isn't actually that big a deal compared to years of not only a good relationship but also incredible success?

Fuck me if you all applied this standard to your personal life you'd all be dying alone

Think its born out of built up frustration at Klopp going, how the season has just taken a divebomb in next to no time, Salahs horrendous form and peoples views on respect.

Everyone wants to see us succeed, everyone is gutted Klopps going and the margin for error is so small in football now that losses or draws are devastating and the fans feel it. Some have been unsure on if Salah has still got 'it' this season and recent form has been as bad as you'll see. I genuinely never thought i'd see the day Salah could barely control the ball but recent weeks have been pretty insane, some awful awful play!! Not starting yesterday is understandable, it wasn't some insane decision that couldn't be justified, he deserved benching! We all know players want to play, come on fired up, that's completely fine... but to blank a manager who has done so much for the club, put his neck on the line for the players, fans, club etc and is clearly really struggling at the moment (it's written all over his face) will naturally infuriate many.

I'm not saying you're wrong, for the record I agree with you, but I think the frustration is a build up. All but one of the seasons targets are gone and in the recent weeks (which will be peoples focus) Salah hasn't shown up, to then disrespect the manager isn't on. In terms of form I think people are also fearing another Hendo, Fab scenario, it was like a lightswitch the way their form fell off a cliff, maybe some see Salah and think history is repeating itself and we need to right the wrongs of last season, I again disagree on that being the way to go but we have to take into account frustration sometime shows in bizarre ways.

Salah is elite and hasn't lost it at all, suggesting otherwise is mad but I think the comments are a combination of many factors built up over time as opposed to 'he disrespected Klopp... sell up'.

I was disappointed more than anything, falling out happens, different things occur but in the circumstances, Klopp wasn't wrong IMO, show the same respect you would want. He would be lividddd if Klopp did the equivalent to him.

Obviously this is just my perception and there will be some who genuinely just think he disrespected klopp so must go but for the majority who seem enraged I think it's a build up of frustration showing
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by Wool on Today at 12:15:51 pm »
I’m happy to tell him to get fucked.Id tear up his contract today if I could.

He’s been an absolute hero for us as a player, one of our all time greats. But once the murals have washed away and his song stopped being sung - there will still be a statue outside of Jurgen Klopp.

One of the qualities Jurgen expects from the culture he cultivates is humility and respect - and yesterday this gobshite thought he is bigger than all that, honestly I’d drag him out the door. Is he he so fucking stupid and arrogant he can’t see why he’s been benched, he’s been fucking atrocious for weeks. To then publically undermine the boss because ‘his feelings are hurt’ he can get fucked.
Embarrassing.
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I reckon we'll be in for some shocks. I doubt we spend £100m on a player though. Wirtz and Musiala will be that and more.

I'm still shocked we let Lukeba go to Leipzig for £28m.

As long as its some really good footballers. In my opinion we have lost our way with signings since and including the summer of 2022. Many of the players signed then and since have question marks over them bar Mac Allister.
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The other thing about MOTD is that it isn't viewable outside the UK without a VPN, so the official match report is what the wider world sees as the BBC viewpoint. So while Andy is technically incorrect, it does seem that the official BBC line is that there's nothing to see here, whereas for the drop ball the BBC Football site ran it as the main story and a couple of secondary articles pushing the Clattenburg doctrine. All that for an incident that had only a marginal, indirect impact on the result, whereas this one was denial of a near certain goal (although one can't dismiss the possibility of our forwards tripping over the ball or missing the open goal) to put a team ahead in the 87th minute.

But all this deflects from the million dirham question: Yorky, do you consider Taylor's persuading Titsley to act injured and his summoning of the physios, to be a corrupt act, using the dictionary definition of corruption as "dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power", usually but not necessarily involving bribery?
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Its frustrating mate and as much as we are all invested in the club/game dont let it get to your mental health its just not worth it.

Footy is a release and something to enjoy but I see why you have said it as its clear rules/decisions are being made up could be worse imagine how Wolves feel if I was them id want a swift return to the championship.

Webb is a disgrace and only time ive watched him on that thing with Owen was to see how he explained Diaz goal....it was laughable really you'd think it was blokes down Red Lion running it not a billion pound industry.

Footy isn't a release any more. It's as bent as fuck and you can't even celebrate a fucking goal any more.

Some fucking release.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Mohamed Salah - Best in the World *
« Last post by MonsLibpool on Today at 12:10:28 pm »
Silly post, Salah was already on his way to being a top class player at Roma. Klopp needed good players to win the league and CL, he wouldn’t have done it with Karius and Origi.
I have expanded on this above.
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The Boozer / Re: The small things in life that make you happy
« Last post by Kenny's Jacket on Today at 12:09:52 pm »
Waking up with a hangover but remembering you still have last nights Andhra chilli chicken in the kitchen

Bosh
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Whether you watch it or not isn’t the point, I don’t watch it either but the point is it’s one of the most prominent media enterprises that there is and they discussed it and made the point that plenty of here are making so to make the point that the media have all unanimously ignored it is incorrect.

The media by and large aren’t there to protect PGMOL, they’re there to make money via whatever generates the most views and clicks. It’s largely the media’s fault that we got VAR in the first place due to the likes of MOTD and Sky crucifying referees for ages whenever they made an error, obviously sometimes that was more just than others but the point is they’re certainly not trying to protect them or downplay the errors.



I watched the game on a US stream and the difference in how the incident was reported at the time on NBC compared to TNT and MOTD was incredible. Dixon instantly called Taylor and out and stated that he had told the keeper to go down. Pearce instantly backed the ref and said he had seen he was injured.
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Liverpool FC Forum / Re: Darwin Núñez (Darwin Gabriel Núñez Ribeiro)
« Last post by Vinay on Today at 12:09:02 pm »
Would a forward line of Leao, Jota and Nunez be good enough?
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