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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2440 on: January 4, 2011, 10:53:54 pm »
Stop talking sense, it feels wrong and is making me queasy! ;D

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« Reply #2441 on: January 4, 2011, 11:05:24 pm »
Honestly, beginning to think we won't get a new manager this season....

the powers that be will just "wait the supporters out"

The mini-protest with people not "turning out" at Anfield won't continue, after we win a few matches
I dont think the owners will keep tolerating 5-10,000 staying away which WILL continue if we still have to put up with roy's shite.Anyone can see we have no hope of winning the majority of our games especially if roy continues to serve up hoofball every week.They may be too patient for our liking but nesv are businessman first and foremost and a continual loss of matchday revenue caused by supporter apathy will be addressed i'm sure
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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2442 on: January 4, 2011, 11:09:27 pm »
You said you PM'd VdM... why didn't you use the Feedback and Questions thread?
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« Reply #2443 on: January 4, 2011, 11:11:26 pm »
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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2444 on: January 4, 2011, 11:11:56 pm »
I think roy will be here for the rest of the season.

I think he might be playing for beating them at old trafford, he might believe thats his 'get out of jail' card.

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2445 on: January 4, 2011, 11:12:04 pm »
We don't welcome Polls on here. They come over here, take our jobs, sleep with our women and drink our beer.

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« Reply #2446 on: January 4, 2011, 11:19:58 pm »
It's a kind of no-win situation, but I'm not seeing much mileage out of sacking Roy now, even thought I want him gone.

We're on course for 50-ish points, safe, mid-table non-entity kind of form. Even a best-case scenario with a caretaker manager isn't likely to push us forward that much. Would Rafa or Kenny add more than, say, another 12 points over half a season? I can't see it.

Also, I reckon FSG have to appear to give Hogson a fair go - it might count against them in the summer when they're trying to recruit if they appear too twitchy and trigger-happy. Any new manager will want to be confident of board support. So Hodgson's playing his media game, but to me the owners look like they're playing it long-term, giving him enough rope to hang himself without jumping into hasty decisions.

For me, the momentary relief if Hodgson was sacked tomorrow would be followed by 'What happens now?' and 'What happens if that goes wrong?' There are no guarantees that everything would be rosy. It could be a very, very difficult situation and the owners would be out of options, short of turning the season into a total pantomime.

If we're in a serious relegation dogfight in a couple of months then I can see him getting sacked. Otherwise I reckon we'll limp along into the summer, by which time I hope the owners have done their homework and got a management structure in place to make an informed decision.

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« Reply #2447 on: January 4, 2011, 11:21:51 pm »
To be honest, mate, as much as I've great respect for Red legends like Shankly, Dalglish (and other LFC players and managers), I'm one of those rubbish fans who finds it hard to really hate United's rivals. I'm probably wrong in my thinking but hating one's rivals doesn't equal truly supporting my team (to me, at least). I think it's far more important to get behind your team than it is to prove loyalty by mindlessly disliking rivals. Besides, no matter what revisionists tell us, 
Going a bit off topic here but the amount of hatred you have for MU is not a measurement of how much you love LFC. Its affects different people in different scales. Put it this way, a few years ago I was in Leeds and was talking to a die-hard Leeds fan. We discussed how we hated the tramp, how we despised the fans apparent backwardness, how much we hated them winning the PL, we agreed we just fucking hated them. Then blow me what does he go an say ...."but I always want them to do well in Europe"............Nooooooooooooooooooooo!.

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2448 on: January 4, 2011, 11:56:31 pm »
I think he might be playing for beating them at old trafford, he might believe thats his 'get out of jail' card.

It would be very difficult to sack Roy if we won at Old Trafford. I think that's the crunch match for him.
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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2449 on: January 5, 2011, 12:11:24 am »
Going a bit off topic here but the amount of hatred you have for MU is not a measurement of how much you love LFC. Its affects different people in different scales. Put it this way, a few years ago I was in Leeds and was talking to a die-hard Leeds fan. We discussed how we hated the tramp, how we despised the fans apparent backwardness, how much we hated them winning the PL, we agreed we just fucking hated them. Then blow me what does he go an say ...."but I always want them to do well in Europe"............Nooooooooooooooooooooo!.

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« Reply #2450 on: January 5, 2011, 12:29:29 am »
It would be very difficult to sack Roy if we won at Old Trafford. I think that's the crunch match for him.

If we win at Old Trafford ducks will fly backward out of Roy's arse singing "I'm a Yankee doodle dandy", in Polish and Roy's already immense ego will expand to fill the universe. All of the galaxies will collapse back into a Singularity and Hodgson will turn into the Star Child out of 2001: A Space Odyssey albeit with a big fuck off quiff.
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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2451 on: January 5, 2011, 12:29:39 am »
It's a kind of no-win situation, but I'm not seeing much mileage out of sacking Roy now, even thought I want him gone.

We're on course for 50-ish points, safe, mid-table non-entity kind of form. Even a best-case scenario with a caretaker manager isn't likely to push us forward that much. Would Rafa or Kenny add more than, say, another 12 points over half a season? I can't see it.

Also, I reckon FSG have to appear to give Hogson a fair go - it might count against them in the summer when they're trying to recruit if they appear too twitchy and trigger-happy. Any new manager will want to be confident of board support. So Hodgson's playing his media game, but to me the owners look like they're playing it long-term, giving him enough rope to hang himself without jumping into hasty decisions.

For me, the momentary relief if Hodgson was sacked tomorrow would be followed by 'What happens now?' and 'What happens if that goes wrong?' There are no guarantees that everything would be rosy. It could be a very, very difficult situation and the owners would be out of options, short of turning the season into a total pantomime.

If we're in a serious relegation dogfight in a couple of months then I can see him getting sacked. Otherwise I reckon we'll limp along into the summer, by which time I hope the owners have done their homework and got a management structure in place to make an informed decision.

I wouldn't worry about appearing too trigger happy - they've given him 6 months. Charltons new owners gave their manager 3 days. Blackburn a month. Now that's trigger happy.

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2452 on: January 5, 2011, 12:32:40 am »
Oh, well, that's easy, I didn't know there was one!

Sorry mate we did discuss your PM in the staff room and decided against a poll.  As Alan said we're not really fans.  I then got distracted by real life and forgot to get back to you with the news.  Apologies.
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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2453 on: January 5, 2011, 12:33:27 am »
Article from Jonathan Wilson, Sports Illustrated, outlining the candidates:

Rightly or wrongly, Roy Hodgson's time at Liverpool seems to be coming to an end. Some will argue that he should be given time, and it is of course true that various managerial greats -- Herbert Chapman, Don Revie, Brian Clough, Mr. Ferguson -- struggled in their first seasons at clubs with whom they later achieved significant success. But it is also true that Hodgson, much like Sam Allardyce in his brief stint at Newcastle United, seems to have lost the confidence of just about everybody, with even those fans who urge patience unsettled by the functionality of much of Liverpool's football, even against mediocre opposition.

Liverpool's problems, of course, extend deeper than the way it plays, and Hodgson has been hampered both by the financial restrictions that undermined Rafa Benitez and by the loss of form suffered by Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard -- although, of course, it may be that he bears some responsibility for that. That Hodgson's approach might not be suitable for Liverpool was not unforeseeable, a reminder that managerial skills are not necessarily transferable, and that a coach who excels in driving average players to squeeze every last drop from their talent may not be so effective with more gifted stars.

While all coaches must adapt to their circumstances -- arguably it is in making that alteration that Hodgson has been most remiss -- it is still possible to consider the general outlook of the potential coaches (in no particular order) who could replace him and see how they might fit at Anfield:

OWEN COYLE
Coyle has rapidly emerged as the brightest young British manager (mind you, it's a long list that has in the past included such names as Brian Little, Peter Taylor, Bryan Robson, Peter Reid, George Burley and Phil Brown), producing stylish football that took Burnley to a surprise promotion to the Premier League, and then adding some sparkle to Bolton's traditional rugged virtues. His work at the Reebok shows a pragmatic streak: At Burnley, he would switch between 4-4-2 and 4-3-3, but at Bolton, 4-4-2 has predominated as he has used the strength of the two muscular forwards, Kevin Davies and Johann Elmander. That suggests a flexibility, a willingness to take his basic beliefs and fit them to the players available rather than simply imposing a philosophy. And his cogency in postmatch media dealings suggests somebody with a clear, uncomplicated vision of the game.

KENNY DALGLISH

Second comings are rarely a good idea, as Kevin Keegan found on his return to Newcastle. Nor is it a good idea to return to football after a long break. The greatest managers sustain themselves by evolution, much of it almost unconscious, the accumulation of minor tweaks made on a day-to-day level eventually making a major difference. Dalglish has been involved in football to the extent of doing some scouting and acting as an ambassador for Liverpool, but without hands-on experience it's very easy to get left behind. At Liverpool, Blackburn and Newcastle, he was a classic 4-4-2 man, usually playing one wide midfielder tucked in and the other as a more orthodox winger. But that was a long time ago.

DIDIER DESCHAMPS
If it hadn't been for Jose Mourinho, Deschamps might already be regarded as one of the managerial greats. His achievement in taking Monaco to the Champions League final in 2004 was stunning, but there he lost to Mourinho's Porto. The victor went on to lead Chelsea to glory; the loser fell out with the Monaco hierarchy and spent a year unemployed. He resigned after leading Juventus to promotion from Serie B, but has restored his upward trajectory by leading Marseille to the French title and claims to have been approached by Liverpool in the summer. He prefers a 4-3-3, but is flexible and in the Champions League this season has shown an admirable willingness to take specific action to counter the opposition. At Spartak, for instance, he shifted to a 4-2-3-1 so Mathieu Valbuena could occupy deep-lying playmaker Ibson, and was rewarded with a 3-0 win.

JURGEN KLOPP
The 43-year-old's antics on the touchline might suggest he is primarily a motivational coach, but his work at Mainz, which he established in the Bundesliga playing "concept football" -- that is, football based on high-tempo, collective movement relentlessly practiced on the training field -- suggests a thinker, and nobody who saw his work as a television pundit between 2005 and 2008 could doubt his tactical expertise. He insists his players perform exercises designed to improve coordination and awareness, but essentially his beliefs are typical of the new breed of German coach: rooted in four at the back, high pace and pressing. Leading Dortmund to the top of the Bundesliga shows his ability to work at a major club, but the doubt must be whether principles that seem revolutionary in Germany would be so in England.

RALF RANGNICK
In Germany, Rangnick was a tactical rebel. He saw the future in 1984 playing in a friendly for amateur side Victoria Backnang against Valeriy Lobanovskyi's Dynamo Kyiv, and became convinced that the principles of the Colonel could have a devastating impact on the staid German game. "I was convinced they had one more player on the pitch," he told reporters. "This was a whole new way of football." He obsessively watched tapes of Arrigo Sacchi's AC Milan, and spent a family holiday studying Zdenek Zeman at Foggia. Appointed coach of tiny Ulm, he imposed a flat back four, zonal marking and a hard-pressing game and took the club into the Bundesliga, a remarkable feat. His record at Stuttgart, Hannover and Schalke 04 was mixed (although he would finish second in the Bundesliga with Schalke in 2004-05), but Rangnick was then the leader of Hoffenheim's remarkable rise. The 52-year-old deserves another chance at a major club, and his principles are not dissimilar to those of Benitez, but there are two major doubts. First, English opposition is far more familiar with pressing than German sides; and second, his success has been in inspiring small sides with no history of success, not in reinspiring a fallen giant.

FRANK RIJKAARD
At Barcelona, Rijkaard played a classic Dutch-style 4-3-3, following the template laid down in the early 1970s, but it took him time to turn the club around, and he was almost sacked after a defeat to Real Madrid in December 2003, five months after being appointed. When he finally left in 2008 he had won two league titles and a Champions League. That success, though, has not been replicated elsewhere: his Dutch national team suffered a collective loss of nerve against Italy in the Euro 2000 semifinal; he was relegated as Sparta Rotterdam manager and he left Galatasaray, where he tried to switch to 4-2-3-1, after four defeats in the first eight games of the Turkish league season and an early exit from the Europa League. It may be that his easygoing attacking philosophy is a fit at Barcelona and few other places.

STAALE SOLBAKKEN
Solbakken is perhaps the hardest of the candidates to assess. He has worked wonders with FC Copenhagen, where he was appointed in 2005 a year after being named Norwegian Coach of the Year for leading Hamarkameratene to promotion. In five seasons in Denmark he has lifted four league titles and taken FCK into the last 16 of the Champions League. His record is impressive, even if there are doubts about how he would cope outside of Scandinavia. There is little complex about his tactical approach: He has attempted anything other than 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1 in only three of 258 Danish league matches.

ANDRE VILLAS BOAS
As a young coach enjoying success with Porto, the comparison between the 33-year-old Villas Boas and Mourinho is inevitable. Both wrote scouting reports for Bobby Robson and Villas Boas worked with Mourinho for seven years, at Porto and then at Chelsea and Internazionale. He left in October 2009 and reinvigorated an Academica side that looked doomed, before getting his big chance with Porto last summer. Like Mourinho, he prefers a 4-3-3, but his approach -- so far at least -- has been far more attacking than his mentor's. He is stylish and ambitious and his record is remarkable, both with a minnow and a giant, but a lack of experience may count against him, particularly as the Portuguese league is very different, both in style and depth of quality, to the Premier League.

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2454 on: January 5, 2011, 12:33:40 am »
If we win at Old Trafford ducks will fly backward out of Roy's arse singing "I'm a Yankee doodle dandy", in Polish and Roy's already immense ego will expand to fill the universe. All of the galaxies will collapse back into a Singularity and Roy will turn into the Star Child out of 2001: A Space Odyssey albeit with a big fuck off quiff.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

And all that would happen after he apologises to the United manager, staff, and probably the fans too.

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« Reply #2455 on: January 5, 2011, 12:34:30 am »
I dont think the owners will keep tolerating 5-10,000 staying away which WILL continue if we still have to put up with roy's shite.Anyone can see we have no hope of winning the majority of our games especially if roy continues to serve up hoofball every week.They may be too patient for our liking but nesv are businessman first and foremost and a continual loss of matchday revenue caused by supporter apathy will be addressed i'm sure

In a way I think that's part of what the new owners don't understand. Above all the off-pitch crap Roy says, his relationship with Ferguson, and his inability to accept any responsibility, his tactics are first and foremost the problem for many of our support. Granted there are some out there who don't like him and never will, if he showed the ability to adapt and play a style that suits our players, stopped deflecting what little criticism his media friends shoot his way on to them, and lived up to what he said in the summer about trying to get us back to our roots (ie-the Liverpool FC style of play), I suspect there would be a massive turnaround in support for him.

Unfortunately for himself and us he continues to alienate players and the fanbase. First with his on-pitch tactics, second with his small club mentality and off-pitch press mishaps. If Roy Hodgson was some bloke named Roy Higuerra (fictional name) from Spain and tried to play the same tactics and continued with the same off-pitch crap then the entire British press would be all over him for his negative style and small club attitude. In fact, if Roy were from Spain, or any non-British country, he wouldn't have been touted for the position at all and his hire would've been criticized the world over from the start.

Broughton and Purslow done well to rid us of the cancers, but their biggest fuck up and lasting legacy will be that they hired this man because the press thought he was the way to go. Purslow receives more blame for that and rightly so because we know more of his negative influence on the footballing side of our club, but it really is on both of them for allowing this to happen.

The only thing I truly blame Roy for is not admitting that he isn't up to the job and resigning because it really is in everyone's best interest for him to do so.

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2456 on: January 5, 2011, 12:37:38 am »
Article from Jonathan Wilson, Sports Illustrated, outlining some of the candidates:
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« Reply #2457 on: January 5, 2011, 12:38:04 am »
Article from Jonathan Wilson, Sports Illustrated, outlining the candidates:


Name missing no? Fella with a goatee?
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« Reply #2458 on: January 5, 2011, 12:39:44 am »
Article from Jonathan Wilson, Sports Illustrated, outlining the candidates:


Name missing no? Fella with a goatee?
Quite. How could he forget Phil Brown.

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« Reply #2459 on: January 5, 2011, 12:40:31 am »
Probably not a popular choice given past circumstances, but I honestly think Jurgen Klinsmann would be a very good choice.

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« Reply #2460 on: January 5, 2011, 12:40:44 am »
No Allardyce? Shameful article.

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« Reply #2461 on: January 5, 2011, 12:42:25 am »
Quite. How could he forget Phil Brown.

Didn't say ORANGE with a goatee..
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« Reply #2462 on: January 5, 2011, 12:43:11 am »
Probably not a popular choice given past circumstances, but I honestly think Jurgen Klinsmann would be a very good choice.

Something fishy here..
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« Reply #2463 on: January 5, 2011, 12:43:26 am »
Right now, I think we have till the end of the season, FSG had the perfect opportunity to get rid last week and didnt take it. It's getting to the point where I'm running out of energy, H&G drained a lot out of us and this is just the final straw I say. I'm tired....


Waiting for Roy to get the sack ...same im tired now
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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2464 on: January 5, 2011, 12:48:43 am »
I think he might be playing for beating them at old trafford, he might believe thats his 'get out of jail' card.



True.  He's probably hoping that it will be his 'Mark Robins' moment.  Ironic when you think who we'll be playing and what their manager went on to achieve in the 20 years since then.
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« Reply #2465 on: January 5, 2011, 12:55:14 am »
Didn't say ORANGE with a goatee..

Hahaha. Really though I think he didn't include Rafa because most people in the press are of the opinion that he is not and more importantly, will not, be considered by NESV. Personally I think it has to do with Comolli's role and that Rafa hasn't seem to worked well with DOFs in the past. I hope they're wrong, he's definitely my first choice and I think he fits their strategy as good as, if not better than, anybody out there would. Having said that, I can see why NESV and Comolli would be afraid to put him back in the dugout.


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« Reply #2466 on: January 5, 2011, 12:57:01 am »
its the european wins that hurts...red nose and big ears ...cant stomach it...just cant help it



Same here.  The Prem titles he's won (11 in 18 seasons after winning his 1st) is something you have to grudgingly accept as a great achievement - the way he gets them into contention at the end of EVERY fucking season - you can't knock it.

But this obsession with getting 3, 4 European cups to put himself in the same bracket as Sir Bob really makes me sick.  What makes me even more sick is that the media/Sky and all the gullable twats in this day and age will actually believe that having 3 CL successes in about 20 attempts is as good as the 3 in 5 seasons that Bob won AND won with having to be Champions or holders as well!
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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2467 on: January 5, 2011, 01:49:48 am »
Article from Jonathan Wilson, Sports Illustrated, outlining the candidates:


Name missing no? Fella with a goatee?

No and you'd do well to get that idea out of your head.

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2468 on: January 5, 2011, 01:53:16 am »
No and you'd do well to get that idea out of your head.
Are you a schoolteacher by any chance?

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2469 on: January 5, 2011, 02:25:49 am »
I swear, I've never ever seen another manager speak to the press so much. Not ever. He never stops. I actually have a theory on this.

He's not really doing these interviews. There's a floor in Anfield which is actually between the 7th and 8th floors and has really low ceilings. The press usually gather in here for the pre-match conferences, but recently they've discovered a tunnel behind an old disguarded empty Werther's bag in the corner of the room. The tunnel itself is cold, dank, and unpleasant, and on it's walls hang pictures of Alex Ferguson, Nivea Face Cream for Men, and a Metronome. This tunnel, incredibly, works as a portal and leads directly in to the mind of Roy Hodgson. While in there, if you can fight off the moths, you get to 'be' Roy Hodgson for 15 minutes, seeing what he sees, hearing his thoughts, and generally living the life of a footballing cabbage.

When your 15 minutes are up you are 'ejected' in to a ditch somewhere, and you then run off to write down what you've experienced.


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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2470 on: January 5, 2011, 02:45:03 am »
DIDIER DESCHAMPS
If it hadn't been for Jose Mourinho, Deschamps might already be regarded as one of the managerial greats. His achievement in taking Monaco to the Champions League final in 2004 was stunning, but there he lost to Mourinho's Porto. The victor went on to lead Chelsea to glory; the loser fell out with the Monaco hierarchy and spent a year unemployed. He resigned after leading Juventus to promotion from Serie B, but has restored his upward trajectory by leading Marseille to the French title and claims to have been approached by Liverpool in the summer. He prefers a 4-3-3, but is flexible and in the Champions League this season has shown an admirable willingness to take specific action to counter the opposition. At Spartak, for instance, he shifted to a 4-2-3-1 so Mathieu Valbuena could occupy deep-lying playmaker Ibson, and was rewarded with a 3-0 win.

JURGEN KLOPP
The 43-year-old's antics on the touchline might suggest he is primarily a motivational coach, but his work at Mainz, which he established in the Bundesliga playing "concept football" -- that is, football based on high-tempo, collective movement relentlessly practiced on the training field -- suggests a thinker, and nobody who saw his work as a television pundit between 2005 and 2008 could doubt his tactical expertise. He insists his players perform exercises designed to improve coordination and awareness, but essentially his beliefs are typical of the new breed of German coach: rooted in four at the back, high pace and pressing. Leading Dortmund to the top of the Bundesliga shows his ability to work at a major club, but the doubt must be whether principles that seem revolutionary in Germany would be so in England.

RALF RANGNICK
In Germany, Rangnick was a tactical rebel. He saw the future in 1984 playing in a friendly for amateur side Victoria Backnang against Valeriy Lobanovskyi's Dynamo Kyiv, and became convinced that the principles of the Colonel could have a devastating impact on the staid German game. "I was convinced they had one more player on the pitch," he told reporters. "This was a whole new way of football." He obsessively watched tapes of Arrigo Sacchi's AC Milan, and spent a family holiday studying Zdenek Zeman at Foggia. Appointed coach of tiny Ulm, he imposed a flat back four, zonal marking and a hard-pressing game and took the club into the Bundesliga, a remarkable feat. His record at Stuttgart, Hannover and Schalke 04 was mixed (although he would finish second in the Bundesliga with Schalke in 2004-05), but Rangnick was then the leader of Hoffenheim's remarkable rise. The 52-year-old deserves another chance at a major club, and his principles are not dissimilar to those of Benitez, but there are two major doubts. First, English opposition is far more familiar with pressing than German sides; and second, his success has been in inspiring small sides with no history of success, not in reinspiring a fallen giant.




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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2471 on: January 5, 2011, 02:59:51 am »
Article from Jonathan Wilson, Sports Illustrated, outlining the candidates:
KENNY DALGLISH[/b]
Second comings are rarely a good idea, as Kevin Keegan found on his return to Newcastle. Nor is it a good idea to return to football after a long break..................... Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jonathan_wilson/01/04/prospective.liverpoolcoaches/index.html#ixzz1A7Eq6Y4H
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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2472 on: January 5, 2011, 03:18:37 am »
I think Roy will get it right..... towards relegation that is. He still here, isn't he?

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2473 on: January 5, 2011, 03:29:58 am »
We might be safe from relegation this year, maybe....

But we are talking about Liverpool FC, not Everton FC...

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2474 on: January 5, 2011, 08:57:54 am »
Or that they are taking their good time to make the right decision.

or maybe they are just unsure of what to do and are still reading up on the history of LFC

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2475 on: January 5, 2011, 09:07:19 am »
if the chelsea manager feels he is still lucky to have his job after guiding his over-the-hill, granddads 11 to top four safety, within striking distance of the leaders and safely into the last 16 of the champions league, why on gods earth is roy hodgson still liverpool manager? it is beyond ridiculous. millions unemployed yet someone so inept and incompetent can remain in such a well paid, high profile position.

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2476 on: January 5, 2011, 12:38:50 pm »
Listen mate, when you speak up for Rafa, the politburo delete your threads and put you on the watched list. I reckon Cecil has influence everywhere.

Tell you what buddy, continue with this childish line of argument and you'll be erased from the picture like our old friend Mr Trotsky.  :wave

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2477 on: January 5, 2011, 12:42:22 pm »
if the chelsea manager feels he is still lucky to have his job after guiding his over-the-hill, granddads 11 to top four safety, within striking distance of the leaders and safely into the last 16 of the champions league, why on gods earth is roy hodgson still liverpool manager? it is beyond ridiculous. millions unemployed yet someone so inept and incompetent can remain in such a well paid, high profile position.


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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2478 on: January 5, 2011, 12:48:53 pm »
Astonished by this


"I can also, with no attempt at modesty, point out we have played 10 difficult games in Europe without even using the bulk of our first-team players and we have reached the last 32 of the Europa League.


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They both went in high, that's factually correct, both tried to play the ball at height.  Doku with his foot, Mac Allister with his chest.

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Re: Roy to be sacked & Dion Fanning article
« Reply #2479 on: January 5, 2011, 12:51:50 pm »
Sorry mate we did discuss your PM in the staff room and decided against a poll.  As Alan said we're not really fans.  I then got distracted by real life and forgot to get back to you with the news.  Apologies.
No worries, that's cool; Real life matters.

Or so they tell me anyway, really must get round to trying one out one day.... in fact, i'll do it straight after posting up how I feel about Roy's latest outburst ..... ooh and had quick hunt on ebay for a .....

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